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Do you want affordable health care?


RainingFeathers Bronze Star Survey Creator
posted 26-Sep-2013 7:31pm  
Yes, and thankfully I have it.
posted 26-Sep-2013 8:08pm  
"Affordable" to me means $50 or less a month and no deductibles or copay. That will cover all my vision care and hearing aid needs -- these two are all I want from a healthcare provider right now. I would think that "affordable" means different things to different people.
posted 26-Sep-2013 8:44pm  
Right, like anyone would prefer unaffordable health care. I want good quality too. Monopolies are known for producing poor quality services at inflated prices.
posted 26-Sep-2013 8:56pm  
Everyone needs "affordable" care. But, from what I understand Obamacare is anything but affordable. I want Obama GONE!

I personally want to afford my natural medicine care, but the AMA don't want natural medicine...after all, it heals, but they make more profit by people being ill.

posted 26-Sep-2013 9:12pm  
I want everyone to have affordable health care, like other countries have.
posted 26-Sep-2013 9:15pm  
Yes affordable health care I do have Obama Care not one penny out of my wallet I do not have to pay no
Strider Survey Central Gold Subscriber
posted 26-Sep-2013 11:22pm  
It already exists here in Canada
(reply to bill) posted 27-Sep-2013 12:34am  
posted 27-Sep-2013 4:40am  
I want affordable health care, but not that monstrosity cumbersome and unaffordable thing O'butt-brain created.
That is not going to help anyone but a bunch of couch potatoes. The average working Joe is going to get it up the butt and hard.
What should have happened first was to look at why a 5 day stay in the hospital (and not intensive care) costs $28k.
Intensive care is 2x that amount and that does not cover the costs of any meds, tests, or doctors visits.
Or even why drugs costs are so exorbitant, and it has nothing to do with research as the f'ing government foots the bill for that.
A good example is Lipitor (useless med) but monthly cost for my SO was 86.71 it went generic and cost went to 3.82.
3.82 and you know the drug producer is still making a profit on it otherwise they wouldn't be making it. A 2270 f'ing % increase.
Some fat cat drug exec is laughing all the way to the bank on just that 1 useless drug alone.
(reply to LJD) posted 27-Sep-2013 4:43am  
> I personally want to afford my natural medicine care, but the AMA
> don't want natural medicine...after all, it heals, but they make more
> profit by people being ill.

AMA doesn't get any kickbacks from naturopathic medicine and doctors.
They side with the people that line their pockets and fudge the people.
jettles Survey Central Subscriber
posted 27-Sep-2013 7:57am  
I am currently insured through work and feel it is affordable. If I were to lose my job I would still want to have affordable health care.
jen Survey Central Gold Subscriber
posted 27-Sep-2013 9:19am  
of course. our medical out of pocket expenses are pretty high.
Enheduanna Survey Central Subscriber
posted 27-Sep-2013 10:45am  
Enheduanna Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to Lysannus) posted 27-Sep-2013 10:54am  
> That is not going to help anyone but a bunch of couch potatoes.

It's going to help self-employed people who work on a contract basis, like bill's wife jen, or me if my partner, whose insurance I'm currently on, were to lose his job or die. Jen and I both work really hard--we are not couch potatoes. Self-employed people like us have no way to get reasonably priced health insurance. If I need it, it's really nice to know that it will be available to me.

(reply to Enheduanna) posted 27-Sep-2013 12:52pm  
I retract the statement about couch potatoes, true not all that need affordable health care are that, I realize.
I am working with my daughter right now to see what she is going to do about this forced healthcare.
She is working part time 30-35 hrs a week and was making ends meet. As the place she is working offers health insurance she does not qualify for this so called affordable crap.
The kicker is if she gets insurance from her workplace she will not be able to even afford rent on her 2 room apartment. So she is either going to quit or just pay the fine/tax.

But then why force everyone to get it. A money grab because the feddy government feels the individual does not know how to spend their money. Only the feds know how to spend it.
Why not make it available as an option. Not that you must have insurance. That is my biggest gripe.
But if they reigned in the ridiculous costs for health care, insurance wouldn't be so outrageous.
posted 27-Sep-2013 1:11pm  
Affordable - yes, Obamacare - NO.
Biggles Bronze Star Survey Creator
posted 27-Sep-2013 1:36pm  
I want healthcare that's affordable for both patients and the state.
posted 27-Sep-2013 5:08pm  
rolls eyes
(reply to Lysannus) posted 28-Sep-2013 2:47am  
I understand. AMA gets their money, by people becoming sick, sicker. They won't make any money if people aren't sick, so it's not in their best interest to get people well....maybe only to give them a temporary bandaid. It's pure evil. Not all people going into medicine are corrupt, some have a conscience.

AMA don't get kickbacks...they just depend on people being sick. I think we both know why they get sick.....the SAD diet.
Enheduanna Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to Lysannus) posted 28-Sep-2013 11:24am  
Finding other ways to control costs would be great, I agree. But making everyone have insurance dilutes the risk pool and is one of the best ways to keep costs down. Everyone is in it together. (Having a single-payer system and better controls over how much doctors can charge would help, too.) Insurance providers do it by denying coverage instead. But if you want people with expensive conditions to have coverage, then everyone has to buy into the system. I get that people don't like to feel forced. But that's my understanding of the reasons for doing it.

I thought anyone could buy insurance on the exchanges, even if they have a job that offers insurance. I definitely include myself among the majority of American who don't understand all the details of the mandate! I feel lucky that I have healthcare and don't have to worry about it for now.

According to this, if your daughter would have to pay more than 8% of her income for the employer health plan, then she won't have to pay a penalty for not having healthcare.
posted 30-Sep-2013 10:26am  
ObamaPhone, ObamaCare... No thanks, I'll do it Obamaself.
posted 1-Oct-2013 7:17am  
they Survey Central Subscriber
posted 11-Oct-2013 8:55pm  
LindaH Silver Star Survey Creator
posted 11-Oct-2013 9:57pm  
Don't we all? I mean, who wants things that aren't affordable? I certainly wouldn't prefer to have expensive* health care.

*anesthesiologists come to mind
posted 12-Oct-2013 12:00pm  
Yes. I like to try and live within my means.
posted 15-Oct-2013 3:47pm  
yes!!!! I won't affordable Health Care. I am sick and tired of paying 10$ for a 10 cent band aid!!! and 100$ for a 10$ bed sheet!!! If this would change we would not need insurance!!! Insurance only profits BIG Business!!!! We would not need health insurance if health-care was affordable!!!
(reply to RainingFeathers) posted 15-Oct-2013 3:52pm  
Are you a government employee? Where do you get affordable health Care??? It must mean someone else is paying for yours or you are one of the one %ers!!!!
(reply to bill) posted 15-Oct-2013 3:53pm  
What other countries????
they Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to navall) posted 15-Oct-2013 6:46pm  
Relax. We're all friends here.

I don't know what it costs to fix an aneurysm, but I bet it's more than $10.
(reply to navall) posted 15-Oct-2013 7:29pm  
Canada, UK, France, Germany, Japan, Israel, Singapore, Taiwan, Thailand, Austria, Denmark, Finland, Greece, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Romania, Russian, Serbia, Sweden, Switzerland, Cuba, Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Peru, Australia, New Zealand, etc source
RainingFeathers Bronze Star Survey Creator
(reply to navall) posted 15-Oct-2013 7:42pm  
I'm Canadian. Every Canadian citizen has health care that's free at the point of service (it's pre-paid through taxes, which I find much preferable to paying for as needed, which causes many to go into considerable debt).
(reply to they) posted 21-Oct-2013 8:39pm  
Very true!!! However don't you think that the cost would be substantially reduced if we did not pay 12$ for the aspirin? 65$ for an average hospital meal? We are not just nickeled and dimed to death we are $$$$ to death!!!! You obviously missed my point!!! Or refused to acknowledge my point!!!! The cost of fixing an aneurism would be 80% less if we were charged appropriately, not at artificially inflated pricing for supplies and services. That only serves to propagate the need for HEALT INSURANCE!!!! And only benefits BIG BUSINESS!!!!!
(reply to bill) posted 21-Oct-2013 9:08pm  
Have you researched (other countries tax system) Have you researched the quality of health care in Singapore, Chile, Thailand, Romania or Brazil?? I truly believe that most of these countries you would not won't health care in at least not the free government provided!!! That is not to say that all countries have that you speak of have substandard health care. How ever the ones that do provide quality health care have an extremely high taxation compared to the US.
they Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to navall) posted 21-Oct-2013 9:28pm  
No. I got your point. I even agree that stuff costs too much. I was recently hospitalized for a full month, so I'm well aware of what everything costs.

I just don't think we have to yell at one another. smile

I'm pleasantly surprised you returned to SC. I half expected you to be a one-hit wonder. Welcome.
they Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to navall) posted 21-Oct-2013 9:35pm  
> How ever the ones that do provide quality health care have an extremely high taxation compared to
> the US.

Maybe taxes would be higher, but I also wouldn't be paying $200.00 every two weeks for medical insurance.
(reply to they) posted 22-Oct-2013 12:49am  
I guss that I used too many !!! :) Sorry I did not mean to yell. I though that all caps was yelling. But this Obamacare Is major BS. It is not about helping the American people it about Money and big business it not about affordable health care it's about turning a profit off the innocent and meek. And it truly has angers me!
(reply to they) posted 22-Oct-2013 12:55am  
Just a Q. How much more would you be paying in taxes if your tax bracket went from 15-18% to 28-32%? I think that you would find that you would be paying at least 250+$ more every two weeks in taxes.
posted 22-Oct-2013 5:01am  
Not to throw more fuel on the fire but we just had our meeting at work on the company health insurance.
Big freaking surprise (not), due to the new federal requirements that had to be added to make the insurance plan acceptable to the dicks in washington DC
the cost is going from 228 per 2 weeks to 320 per 2 weeks and less coverage and a higher deductible.
Well I guess the grandkids don't need new clothes or food and I guess we could turn the heat down from 62 during the day to maybe 55, that might be enough to make up the difference.
May have to go back into full time farming and raising livestock if we want any food soon.
(reply to Lysannus) posted 22-Oct-2013 10:54am  
Yep, it's happening everywhere. Those of us with jobs have to pay more for those who won't get one. I know there are people who can't get a job for some reason, but the number of people who won't get one is much higher in my humblest of humble opinions.
Biggles Bronze Star Survey Creator
(reply to navall) posted 22-Oct-2013 1:53pm  
I live in a country with healthcare that's free at the point of care (UK) and earn a good wage, but I'm still in the basic 20% tax bracket. You would have to earn over 41,000 (about $67k) per year to go into the next bracket.
posted 14-Nov-2013 12:07pm  
That's the problem. The media has done a terrific job of making people think that it's one in the same.

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