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| multiple | 25-Apr-2001 | computers/internet | HareKrishna | by votes | 46 | 13 | 43.8% |
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| Kristal_Rose | posted 27-Apr-2001 9:21am I tried to become one, but realised that the primary sites I'd recommend were already listed. To my grumblement, the current editor of the section I wanted to be editor of never did list my site. I've got hundreds of catalogued bookmarks, but they are arranged in a fashion that would make more sense to a metaphysician. I think I did apply anyhow, but never got a response. I don't recall now. A lot of the stuff I would really want to include wouldn't even make sense to a non-mystical mind, and the concrete cataloguing system is not as open as they'd have you think. If someone has experienced differently, please let me know. |
| jkiehart | posted 27-Apr-2001 10:35am Huh? I don't understand. |
| Kristal_Rose | posted 27-Apr-2001 10:37am http://www.ereiam.com/office/bookmark-010327.htm This is where I keep my own version, and 'coincidentally' it seems that all my ODP links are at the top. You can also go to the top level and to my links page where surprise surprise SC is one of the first links listed. Even my favorite dialogues with users are there (about a Mb worth). In fact, even my office files like my project calendar are listed there. Eventually I plan to post all my economic data too when I start auctioning viewmaster reels on eBay. I'm developing software to even the playing field amongst people and bidding agents on ebay and start a new business model of cost and expense reporting as well for people who choose their expenditures based on more than who's least expensive. If anyone knows of any good free software for managing bookmark pages in html in frontpage let me know. Netscape just spits out a single page for all of them, and I have several layers deep of folders. |
| Violet | posted 27-Apr-2001 10:51am Nope, but I'm an editor for one of its competitors. |
| Kristal_Rose | (reply to jkiehart) posted 27-Apr-2001 11:01am The ODP is like the Dewey Decimal or Library of Congress classifications you find at the library, but it's for web sites, and is organized a bit more by the way people use web sites, and not by some theoretical classification of information. Often when you go to a search engine and find things by category you already are using the results of the ODP. Search engines used to be totally automated; you'd throm in some searh word like 'survey', and your search would turn up all the sites in which the authors of the site listed the keyword 'survey'. For instance, Survey Central appear would appear. The problem with that system now is that hundreds of sites might appear; some of them might even be résumés for people who worked gathering surveys in shopping malls. Now, with ODP, one could click on the category 'people', click on 'opinions', click on 'surveys', click on 'survey chat sites' and be presented with a list of all the survey chat websites, no résumés from survey takers or articles about the origin of gallup polls. This is accurate, because instead of artificial intelligence comparing keywords to the authors site content, an actual human editor was submitted site links from all the authors who felt they had 'survey chat site' and s/he determined whethar that really appeared to be the case or not. Anyone is free to become an editor. They all volunteer. If you felt you were an expert on nail polish, you could apply to be be the "society | home & health care | cosmetology | nail care" by filling an application with some nail care links you would recommend to prove that you can indeed find, identify, and verify legitimate nail care sites. I myself was going an editor of "Science and Mysticism". The problem with the system is that an individual has veto power over who gets listed. A christian editor of nail care listings might ignore requests to list the website of 'Uncle Beelzebub's tattoo and nail parlor'. Was it worth my trouble to explain this? |
| Kristal_Rose | (reply to Violet) posted 27-Apr-2001 11:01am Cool !!! Who? |
| HareKrishna | (reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 27-Apr-2001 11:41pm I had a look @ http://www.ereiam.com/office/bookmark-010327.htm Why don't you submit it to many search engines @ once with Submit Express http://www.submitexpres.com ? |
| HareKrishna | (reply to Violet) posted 27-Apr-2001 11:42pm Cool !!! Who?? |
| kaleb777 | posted 28-Apr-2001 6:38am don't know, don't care |
| Kristal_Rose | (reply to HareKrishna) posted 28-Apr-2001 8:51am Funny, the site wasn't available. I've already submitted my sites to the search engines that supply the source for the others. If they don't list me, I won't hassle. It was a tool for managing bookmarks I sought. It shows up on my search engine, I haven't tested searches alsewhere for awhile. |
| LindaH | posted 28-Apr-2001 8:22pm I always have a hard time finding the less simple stuff on the web. I can't think of anything offhand, but I should start writing it down. It's frustrating. It's so easy to find everyday topics, but when you have something a bit more hard to explain, it's also hard to find. Maybe this Open Directory thing would help. Maybe I'm just weird. |
| HareKrishna | (reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 29-Apr-2001 6:26pm You have your own search engine? |
| Kristal_Rose | (reply to HareKrishna) posted 30-Apr-2001 8:56am In different manners of speaking, yes. I use a search site run by the folks who wrote the other popular search engine sites, it's used by the department of defense, and doesn't filter/sort your results based on what they think you should know or buy. |
| Kristal_Rose | (reply to LindaH) posted 30-Apr-2001 9:02am Give me a shot at something. I find whatever I'm looking for. Really good search software is capable of, for instance, telling you when any site out there has edited it's content to use your brand name in a derogatory fashion. I don't have that software. It sells for between $30k & $280k, though for around $80 you can get something that will at least search any domain you point it at for whatever you're looking for, or revisions to prior content. Karma has much to do with it too. |
| LindaH | (reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 30-Apr-2001 11:41am OK, How about different accounts of bystander intervention. I want to see if there are any articles about the dynamics of it, especially interventions gone awry. (The good samaritan helps the wrong person, accidentally lets the bad guy catch the good guy etc) |
| HareKrishna | (reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 30-Apr-2001 7:52pm What is its URL? |
| Kristal_Rose | (reply to HareKrishna) posted 30-Apr-2001 9:45pm http://www.queryserver.com/web.htm One nice thing about is is that some sites keep track of where you came from, what last page you visited, which browser, etc. and mold content for you based on that. Sometimes I have to choose a different method of arriving at a site to get the content I want. Concepts like Communities, Zones, VChips, etc, though making some stuff like hobbies and shopping easier to reach, might cut you off from knowing what the rest of tthe world's really up to. One gets suspicious when for instance a company takes over 1200 radio stations, and out of hundreds of websites about it, the only one with a title that suggests disfavor is from grenada and crashes when you try to load it. |
| Kristal_Rose | (reply to LindaH) posted 30-Apr-2001 10:28pm Using my search site http://www.queryserver.com/web.htm I get 235 sites off the bat using "bystander intervention", most of them from psychology departments, but about half are irrelevant sites on CPR & such. I've in fact visited some of them before on topics like 'Diffusion of responsibility'. Let me add the term 'mistake'.. Gee, even if I type in awry, I get 211 sites like chat boards on car alarm flame throwers. Talk about your remote control fire bomb. The flames seem to be perfectly designed to ignite an adjacent gas cars gas tank. Why you could push a switch and ignite all of S. Africa. Bad stuff. In the case of your search, I suppose I would have to throw in all the 'not military' 'not CPR' 'awry or mistake or wrong' and 'samaritan or bystander' etc etc otherwise the first few hundred sites of cut off I get will be mixed with so much irrelevant stuff to dig through. I don't see a shortage of material though, rather too much. Were any of those papers on the subject yours? Ok, well I'm not actually finding much. But it might not be a search engine issue. Perhaps such things are rarely documented in the first place. You might see if any newspapers have search engines for their archives. This content wouldn't appear in indexed search engines because the web page doesn't even exist except when you make a request to their database to draft such a page. First do a search on 'Newspaper Database Search' to find your starting point. Likewise, searching on words like 'Spider, agent, search, parse, html' will find you dozens of software applications to expedite your search. I've rarely needed them myself. Mostly they're for sites that aren't accurately indexed. Was there something more personal intended intended? My search turned up articles on hinduism and such too. |
| LindaH | posted 30-Apr-2001 10:50pm I think that most of the stuff that interests me is rarely documented. I'm kinda different that way. |
| Maarten | (reply to LindaH) posted 30-Apr-2001 11:43pm Example? |
| LindaH | (reply to Maarten) posted 1-May-2001 12:04am Like: The concept of harmless people being completely themselves, without being self-conscious of being judged, and the idea that you shouldn't judge people that are playing in their own world. I'm interested in shunning the social norms and expectations that really don't matter. I have this idea that I like to call 'anythinging' where you just let yourself be relaxed in an 'anything goes' kind of style. It is so hard to explain, I highly doubt I can find the words to find anything like it in a search engine. (Have you seen the way that hippies dance?) |
| Maarten | (reply to LindaH) posted 1-May-2001 12:14am Come 'anythinging' in Amsterdam. You'd feel much better! |
| LindaH | (reply to Maarten) posted 1-May-2001 12:35am Why, are people much more open-minded, non-judgmental, understanding, accepting, empathetic, logical, and reasonable there? |
| Maarten | (reply to LindaH) posted 1-May-2001 12:38am Absolutely. |
| LindaH | (reply to Maarten) posted 1-May-2001 12:51am Cool. One of my favorite IRC buddies was from there, and I've heard good things about it. I have a list of places I want to go. Maybe I should put it on my list? |
| Maarten | (reply to LindaH) posted 1-May-2001 12:52am Sure. All foreigners I meet love it here! |
| Kristal_Rose | (reply to LindaH) posted 1-May-2001 1:28am People often recommend Amsterdam to me. You are picking on me. |
| LindaH | (reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 1-May-2001 1:32am I'm picking on you? I don't mean to. |
| Kristal_Rose | (reply to LindaH) posted 1-May-2001 2:08am I do try to get people out of their little worlds, or at least understand them. |
| LindaH | (reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 1-May-2001 11:35am |
| LindaH | (reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 1-May-2001 2:47pm I never answered your earlier questions. None of the articles on bystander intervention were mine. There was nothing more personal intended either. I just happen to hate it when people jump into situations without knowing who the 'bad guy' is, or not know if there even is a bad guy... recipe for disaster. |
| HareKrishna | (reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 1-May-2001 11:55pm |
| Kristal_Rose | (reply to LindaH) posted 2-May-2001 5:28am I took CPR and first aid back in the 6th grade. now they teach people that they risk a lawsuit from doing something wrong. |
| Kristal_Rose | (reply to HareKrishna) posted 2-May-2001 5:30am Those categories at the top of Google are the ODP listings. |
| LindaH | (reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 2-May-2001 11:42am Oh I know. I've taken it a few times. I wonder if you could also sue a person for thinking you were the bad guy and stopping you from chasing someone who just stole from your store or vandalized your car. |
| LindaH | (reply to Maarten) posted 2-May-2001 11:44am If I ever make my way to Amsterdam and decide to go anythinging, I'll have to look you up. |
| Maarten | (reply to LindaH) posted 2-May-2001 12:30pm Absolutely. I love anythinging! |
| HareKrishna | (reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 2-May-2001 5:57pm Yes they are. Hare Krishna! |
| Kristal_Rose | (reply to LindaH) posted 2-May-2001 9:26pm Obstruction of justice during a citizens arrest. Yes I suppose so. You certainly have one of the quirkier interests going here. I can't quite see where you're going with this. Are you hoping to further instigate the MYOB culture, wake up misguided zealots, or do you just have a personal fascination with screwy karma. I think to get an accurate picture, you would have to look at the character profiles of the parties involved, and at least the immediate periphery karma of their lives. If for instance, the motive of a misguided was heroic fame instead of compassion, I can easily see them landing blooper publicity. So what are your motives here? College can be a really great place to start positive forces in motion, or it can be a place to seek, expose, and amplify a lack of faith in human nature. 20 years ago I thought a magazine called 'wipe out', full of sports tragedies would be a great seller, though those around me couldn't envision it becoming popular. Now to my dismay, such has become mainstream television entertainment. I imagine I was part of a collective fascination that hasn't served society. |
| LindaH | (reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 2-May-2001 11:38pm I'm more interested in waking up the misguided zealots. One time, a man was sitting just off the bike path near some trees. Someone called security on him, saying "He isn't doing anything except sitting there...but it just doesn't look right." Security came to investigate, and the guy said he was just watching the snow fall. My question: What was the caller thinking? One time I was on the bus, and a friendly guy was making conversation with me, asking if I was in college, what classes I was in, if I had much homework and whatnot. Some other guy must have assumed that bothered me, because he attempted to order the friendly guy off the bus. I have too many stories to list here, but I hope you get the idea. |
| Kristal_Rose | (reply to LindaH) posted 3-May-2001 2:34am Oh, yeah, you mentioned that latter one before. I've never even heard of it before. It might part of your personal collection, though I'm sure it must happen elsewhere too. Why don't you do a survey on the subject? |
| LindaH | (reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 3-May-2001 11:35am Maybe I will, but I'd have to think about how to word it. |
| anoddoblivion | posted 9-May-2001 3:09pm I hate surveys that are really advertisements. But I guess all are in a way. Nope. |
| Kristal_Rose | (reply to anoddoblivion) posted 10-May-2001 8:34pm This isn't much more of an ad then say "do you work for a utility", or "have you written for your local paper". Considering I was trying to be one, and the sort of folks at SC, the question wasn't really off the mark. |
| LindaH | (reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 10-May-2001 9:16pm Do you write fiction? I ask because I have another thing I want to look up but I don't know what it's called and got an error. |
| Kristal_Rose | (reply to LindaH) posted 11-May-2001 2:37am Yes, sometimes. Gee, my search engine is down. Hope it comes back. I'm hoping to start writing childrens books this year. I should get around to posting some of that, but I have hundreds of things to post, it hasn't been a priority. |
| LindaH | (reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 11-May-2001 1:49pm Want to hear two coincidences? I was looking for writer's resources on the web, and someone's example sounded eerily similar to one of my stories. Also, I was thinking of making a fake crime book, with staged photos, and was wondering about them being so realistic as to attract the suspicion of the lab employees. Today I went to vote.com and saw a question about that. Weird. |
| LindaH | posted 11-May-2001 5:14pm Heres another coincidence: Last night I was thinking of making a certain game out of wood. It would take a piece of wood with holes in it, one square in the middle. Today I was walking outside and found a piece of wood on the ground with a hole right in the middle. See... You notice coincidences more when you have been thinking about them. |
| Kristal_Rose | (reply to LindaH) posted 12-May-2001 6:35am My life is nothing but that sort of coincidence. Whatever I think of happens. It's not as intense as it was years ago before I mellowed out. then I could compose poetry and hear it over the radio as I thought it. I think of new technology, new arts, new social movements.. I hear it all on the news within a couple days or weeks. I can use the world as a means of carrying on a conversation at times (I learned it from others that do the same). There was a time I was even going to answer all my surveys by what I heard over the radio at the moment (Haven't been at that speed this year except on Easter) Someone was complaining about the attitude of my website, www.ereiam.com. It turns out that they had visited a dark mirror of the same site from the other side of the planet that I had been unaware of at www.eriam.com {I still don't know if it was a copy-cat, or, as I suspect, a spontaneous parallel}. Synchronicity and coincidence are a variant of instant karma. Choose what you want to think about carefully. It's the means by which you pilot yourself to new realms of subject matter or consciousness. I let your line of thinking influence me briefly, and I can't say I welcomed the sort of news stories that came my way. (I since woke up again lately and realised I was doing much worse. I had let my neighbor become a terrible demon, and am still working on undoing the thought. to my personal relief, but sorrow for the kids, she was evicted (a day after my prayers to have her overtaken with a heavenly consciousness bore little fruit). (She confronted me directly about it. )) She has this bizarre capability of turning words of biblical and child psychology wisdom into some hellish interpretation. (apparently [cringe] she even has a degree) The only phrase she didn't subvert was when I said "yeah, but what about 'the golden' rule"? She said that didn't apply to children. |
| Kristal_Rose | (reply to LindaH) posted 12-May-2001 6:42am I was thinking last tonight and today to work on various wood projects, including my hollow stave, making a guitar, and paintings on driftwood, and building a cabinet. And thinking again about that sex change I'd like. Many other topics too of course. Oh, and the victrola i'd like to make with the huge piece of redwood burl that sits in front of me behind my monitor. |
| LindaH | (reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 12-May-2001 2:33pm Yesterday I made the game I wanted to make. I also painted some bookends and something to put in front of the door to keep it from closing. I painted it to look like a hill with a road going down the middle. I've been in the mood for painting wood lately. |
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