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| single | 14-Feb-2001 | personal preferences | hildagard | by votes | 96 | 26 | 57.6% |
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| User | Comment |
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| mandy | posted 14-Feb-2001 9:10pm Oh yes! |
| natsim | posted 14-Feb-2001 10:32pm I especially like shape note music in fugue form! |
| Kristal_Rose | posted 15-Feb-2001 12:56am Definitely. the form could be ascribed to Mancini, and Robert Fripp is the ultimate. Each new note is it's own voice which creates an interplay with all that preceded it. In his frippertronics, a near continuous loop allows a melody to constantly evolve in a fashion that the context of prior melody contributing voice/notes evolves as well. And if you can hold the entire piece in your head you have quite a piece. My mom on the other head didn't even realise the piece was changing because she was only in the moment I guess. |
| micah | posted 15-Feb-2001 4:43am That explanation doesn't seem to match Tocatta in Fugue. I'm confused. Is there something I'm missing? First, is your word 'voice' interchangable with instruments other than the human voice? And second, does your word 'theme' represent a particular melodic structure within the piece, or an actual plot theme represented by the singers' words? I know Bach did a lot of secular stuff, but it's not like I can tell what the hell they're saying! |
| Jody | posted 15-Feb-2001 9:02am I tend to like Rondos better. Preludes are nice too. |
| jkiehart | posted 15-Feb-2001 10:20am This question is too complicated for those who don't know what fugue is. One can't read a definition about a musical style to understand it, music must be heard. I have neither the time nor the inclination to educate myself on this topic simply to check a "yes" or "no" answer. |
| Pooh_Bear | posted 15-Feb-2001 11:50am Good explanation and options. |
| Kristal_Rose | (reply to micah) posted 15-Feb-2001 8:06pm Consider 'Heart and Soul'. The bass line is one voice that is like an elf hop/marching from river rock to river rock. The treble line is a voice like a fairy hopping from flower to flower on the river bank. Jazz improvisation (jamming) is based on multiple voices. In the classical works, voices are not only different personalities, but practically different physics. There are cool things in music like grüngestalt too. Thats when an umbrella meta-melody is formed by accented peaks of a single or a collision of multiple melodies. |
| Zang | posted 15-Feb-2001 11:36pm Yes, but more likely that really bad fugues don't get recorded very often, making the chance for me to hear one fairly slim. My favourite is J.S. Bach's "Toccata and Fugue in D Minor, BWV-565". |
| Zang | (reply to micah) posted 15-Feb-2001 11:53pm The fugue has some terminology that is particular to the form. When speaking of fugues, the term "voice" applies to melodic strands. It doesn't necessarily mean "instrument", for example an organ fugue is played on one (polyphonic) instrument, yet may have several "voices". The word "theme" or "subject" is a little scrap of melody, which all of the "voices" kind of muck about with...again different from how the term is applied to sonata form (or literature for that matter). I hope that helps to clear things up a bit. |
| Kristal_Rose | (reply to Zang) posted 16-Feb-2001 1:04am What? I was too colorfully cryptic or something? |
| hildagard | (reply to Zang) posted 16-Feb-2001 1:14pm I agree with you. I also like it very much, well if I didn't listen to it so much, and got so sick of it, I would still be able to listen to it. Do you like Bach's The Art of the Fugue? |
| Zang | (reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 16-Feb-2001 3:29pm No. You explained it one way, I explained it another. Between the two of us, hopefully we answered his question. |
| Zang | (reply to hildagard) posted 16-Feb-2001 3:31pm I'm not very familiar with it. |
| hildagard | (reply to Zang) posted 16-Feb-2001 6:57pm It's wonderful. I really like it. You should listen to it. |
| micah | (reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 16-Feb-2001 9:26pm ...and Zang... Got it. I figured as much. |
| nasale | posted 25-Feb-2001 2:15pm Huh? Whaaas that? |
| palestrina | posted 1-Mar-2001 2:30am I believe this is all a matter of taste. I like good music, no matter what form it's in. |
| Kristal_Rose | posted 1-Mar-2001 4:29am I've been whistling most of my pop music into a fugue lately. |
| SuperCow | posted 1-Mar-2001 1:23pm I like contemporary music. And if that bothers you then you can go and FUGUE yourself! |
| tirebiter | posted 9-Mar-2001 4:17am FUGUE TOO!!! |
| Iseult | posted 8-Apr-2001 7:29pm Yes. But sometimes, it annoys me when the form doesn't follow the strict pattern. |
| Vamp_Angel | posted 21-May-2001 3:33pm No, I find fugue an easy way to write when you have no idea. I do like Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D-Minor, but it's really rare for me to like something like that. |
| Kristal_Rose | (reply to Iseult) posted 22-May-2001 8:28am Have you ever listened to Robert Fripp's solo work? and are 'you' familar with grüngestalt. |
| Iseult | (reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 22-May-2001 3:22pm No, I never heard for Robert Fripp. Should I check him out? |
| Kristal_Rose | (reply to Iseult) posted 22-May-2001 10:38pm Most definitely. He was considered one of rock's top 20 guitarists, but only a classical mind could understand his work. He was a member of King Crimson which was huge in it's time, then moved into works with Brian Eno, then Andy Summers. "Exposure" and "God save the queen" are good albums. He invented something called Frippertronics which is an interactive tape loop system. Some people don't even recognize the music is changing, but with each layered pass of the loop new tone-textures arrive while others fade off the lead of the trail in such a fashion that the context of the entire passage evolves. Far less complex, but reminiscent of Fripps mood is the impressionist composer Eric Satie (both work atonally without a key center). |
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