nice handle BTW!

pride is not a virtue

It has taken me years to get to the point that I don't hate myself. So I am just in a stagnate state of being here. I have spent a fews years total in psych hospitals due to self hatred and often look at productive seemingly healthy people with envy. How I would love to be able to walk out my door without fear of people.

I am not the body. I am the soul.

Very much so, thank you.

I am proud to be my daughter's mother.

Quite proud.

Praise and give glory to god, who amongst everthing else, also happens to be us. Feeling you are better than others is something different than pride. Closing your mind to unlimited possibilities is something different than pride.

"Proud" is a word I dislike, which seems to me to embody the catalyst to many of the most pointless problems on the planet. I am not unhappy to be myself, indeed, I wouldn't want to be anyone else if I could, but I would be loathe to describe myself as proud of it.

I'm starting to like myself a bit more.

Yes, but there is something I would like to change, and that is my little temper and I am too out spoken.

I would change a few things... all we would, wouldn't we?

mary: I think your outspokenness is one of the greatest things about you!

Thank You!

Enhe is right, Mary. Don't change that!

yes, mary...you rock!

mary, you're cool, I dig the honesty of your comments.

I like when you get all hot headed and pissed off....I like a hot headed woman!

I'm a rock star!

*restrains himself from doing a Mary Krishna song*

I am proud of myself sometimes. I am proud that I am actually going back to school after 20 years. I am proud I have 2 wonderful and funny kids. I am half-assed proud of my life with my husband. That does not make sense but oh well.

I guess pride is pretty much a mystery to me. How can I be proud to be myself when all the things I have accomplished I have accomplished because I was able to do them, and when I have left so much unaccomplished? Is a hammer proud to pound nails? That's just what it does - there's nothing special about it. I occaisionally feel a sense of accomplishment but I try not to let it go to my head. Usually when I look back at what I've done I realize it was more perserverance than skill that got me through it. Proud people piss me off.

jo: What about sorrow, delight, etc.? Why should people bother to have those reactions. Conditionable emotional reaction machines. Why should you take stock in what peoples emotional machines do? Buddhists teach find love and joy it both good and evil. Do I do this? Somewhat. But mostly I consider my gifts god given, and my pride in them praise to god, and my experience of the pride - god's experience. I used to do this but blame myself for my flaws. Now I praise and delight in my flaws as well, not placing blame, but seeing it as more entertainment. I still consider life a game in which I get to overcome my flaws. But I've come to realize how much I've learned from my shortcomings as well. I still make work out of helping others to find attitudes that help them selves and others have a more enjoyable life.
I take it by pride, you mean the kind that closes ones to others, true?
I spent my first 30 years without pride and it was a miserable life. I would paint a painting and never stop to appreciate it when I was done.

Mary Krishna, gentille Mary Krishna
Mary Krishna, je te plumerai

So...who is Twisternipple?

I don't know, but I could be a nippletwister if you'd like. >

I love who I am! Not to sound like self-absorbed but I think that I really like who I am and I dont want to change a thing!

I love you, you evil gurl......

ditto

and your little monkey too

monkey krishna!

I'll get you and your little monkey Toto too.
Hare Singe
Hare Singe
Krisna Lievre
Krisna Lievre
Qu'un sange impur
Abrevre tous nos clones.

KR - yes, pride that distances one from others is bad. I guess I do understand the feeling - and I believe it has a place - but I think some people value it too highly. Paint your painting. When it's done, pause for a moment and look at it. Is it good? Good. Now paint another and make it better. Even if it were a bad painting, you would want to paint another. I think the key is to throw (or give) the painting away as soon as it's done and move on to the next one. Otherwise you run the risk of excessive pride, of the vanity that is pride in your own works, and of an inability to see the positive aspects of the works of others.

All in all, I've done myself proud so far

I'm serious I don't know who I am, that and I can't live with myself so I guess I'll have to get a roomate.That came straight from me Bob......Jeff.......John......Satan, yes that sounds close enough Carrie.

Somedays, like now, I am. Other days I'm not, and it sucks.