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| single | 30-Apr-2000 | opinion | nihon | unsorted | 81 | 9 | 57.3% |
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| User | Comment |
|---|---|
| Strider | posted 30-Apr-2000 10:39pm Yes but not in our likfe time. |
| mandy | posted 30-Apr-2000 10:41pm *shrugs* |
| romkey | posted 30-Apr-2000 10:53pm I think it may be possible to get from point A to point B faster than light does, while it may not be possible to exceed the velocity of light. |
| bill | posted 30-Apr-2000 11:04pm Ah, you must be talking about transdimensional vortices. |
| romkey | posted 30-Apr-2000 11:07pm bill- I thought I saw your penis in that wormhole! |
| lion | posted 30-Apr-2000 11:07pm ewwwww! |
| Frostbrand | posted 1-May-2000 12:30am I don't think so, but even if it was, what about possible nasty side effects? |
| micah | posted 1-May-2000 6:41am Yes. I think it's called the E.P.R effect.(with a twist of lime) |
| romkey | posted 1-May-2000 9:12am micah - I thought EPR gave faster than light communication (between things with synchronized quantum states), not travel |
| joachim | posted 1-May-2000 11:22am Probably not given what we know today, but who knows what we may learn tomorrow. |
| joachim | posted 1-May-2000 11:24am Furthermore, romkey and micah, my understanding is that that so far no effects had been discovered which actually allowed faster than light communication, even though faster than light effects have certainly been observed. |
| ILJ | posted 1-May-2000 2:46pm I don't believe it is possible. I suspect that it might be, but I don't have enough knowledge of the topic to substantiate a full-blown belief. |
| phi | posted 1-May-2000 4:04pm Not for any meaningful definition of the word 'travel'. |
| phi | posted 1-May-2000 4:09pm EPR is not FTL communication. And Cerenkov's FTL effects have to do with exceeding the local (ie, through a medium) speed of light, not the 300,000 km/s speed of light in a vacuum. |
| pcpr | posted 1-May-2000 4:12pm "If 300,000 km/s is the speed of light in a vacuum, what's the speed of light in a DustBuster?" (forgot who said that, I'd guess Steven Wright) |
| Zang | posted 1-May-2000 7:04pm Not of physical objects. |
| pandora | posted 1-May-2000 8:05pm doesn't sound travel faster than light? I actually have no idea if it does or not, but I guess I'll find out |
| magbast | posted 1-May-2000 8:36pm i have an uncle that can hitchhike faster than light... |
| romkey | posted 1-May-2000 10:20pm pandora - nope. sound's a lot slower than light. the thought since Einstein is that the speed of light is the fastest speed anything can travel at in the universe, and that if something has mass (light doesn't) then it can approach the speed of light but never quite reach or exceed it. check out when you see a plane flying overhead... usually the sound will be coming from way back on the plane's path and hey, welcome back! |
| jonathan | posted 2-May-2000 12:02am romkey - If you subject two particles to the EPR effect, though the waveform will collapse in the same instant no matter how far the particles are apart, the particles still can't travel faster than the speed of light so FTL communication doesn't happen (since you can't actually influence the waveform's collapse). |
| micah | posted 2-May-2000 4:26am romkey: If you can set up 2 machines, several light years apart, that each have one of two subatomic particles that have been linked, instantanious communication between those machines could take place. If you have that, I'm sure, given time for some farmer to dream it up, matter could be manipulated in such a way that might permit instantanious teleportation. In the 18 hundreds, there was a famous astronomer that said that mankind would never be able to analyze the chemical composition of distant stars, and only a few years later, he was doing just that. I think there's something just around the corner. With what we're doing to our poor planet, I certainly hope we figure something out quick. |
| bill | posted 2-May-2000 9:28am pandora, another good example (besides romkey's plane example) is when you experience a thunderstorm. You see the flash of lightning, but the boom of the thunder often arrives after the flash. The flash arrives at your eyes at the speed of light, the boom arrives at the speed of sound (slower). |
| phi | posted 2-May-2000 12:08pm it really pains me to see people misunderstand quantum mechanics so severely. |
| jonathan | posted 2-May-2000 12:50pm phi: care to enlighten us? |
| romkey | posted 2-May-2000 12:53pm micah - I think the others are right, while locality is violated you don't actually get information transfer, let alone teleportation |
| mary | posted 2-May-2000 2:14pm Maybe if you went around the world super fast, faster than the world turns in the opposite direction you could go back in time? Nah. |
| magbast | posted 2-May-2000 3:40pm mary, watch superman much? |
| phi | posted 2-May-2000 4:27pm I started to write an explanation but this one is better. |
| Maarten | posted 3-May-2000 4:23pm Not yet, I'd say. |
| bill | posted 3-May-2000 11:04pm What about tachyons? |
| micah | posted 4-May-2000 4:24am phi: That explanation didn't help me much in understanding the discrepancy, 'cause most of the terms are proprietary to physics, and I'm totally unfamiliar with them. |
| phi | posted 4-May-2000 12:17pm OK, the summary is that classical and quantum physics are different in how they view information. This leads to a situation in which certain observed events appear, if you follow the classical information model, to involve transmitting information faster than the speed of light -- but the quantum view is that no information is being transmitted and so no faster-than-light communication occurs. The experiment is supposed to prove that quantum mechanics is correct, not to be a way of getting around the speed of light limit. Especially since the particular information that's being transmitted (or not) is random numbers generated by the experiment, and not anything input at one side and read out on the other, so it's not at all useful for actual communication. |
| micah | posted 5-May-2000 9:18am Thank you very much. I think I need to read more books about it then. I've only read 'Taking the Quantum leap' and a few others, and obviously haven't quite fully understood it. |
| joachim | posted 5-May-2000 11:33am Probably one of the most obvious examples of the low speed of sound is baseball (or golf, or somebody hammering at a work site a block away). You can watch the bat hit the ball and clearly hear the sound occur a fraction of a second later. |
| liquidliqhtninq | posted 6-May-2000 10:55pm Lightning!! |
| mary | posted 8-May-2000 12:52pm Superman! |
| mandy | posted 8-May-2000 9:10pm only if you are a monkey |
| Analog | posted 25-May-2000 12:23am Of course I don't know. If there's convincing evidence either way, it's not common knowledge. |
| wesley | posted 26-May-2000 6:27am If you mean passenger travel, no way. |
| ironart | posted 28-May-2000 5:21pm Yes but not yet |
| nihon | (reply to wesley) posted 7-Jul-2000 6:58am Why else would you want to do it? |
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