Failed Right-Wing economic policy should go the way of Communism: Onto the ash heap of history.

I think the current crisis shows that capitalism doesn't work in the end because of greed.
But then, there's just not 1 perfect system.

Agree.

I suspect that we all might not agree on exactly what "Right-Wing economic policy" you're referring to. Presumably, you're talking about deregulation and/or less regulation of financial systems. But, if that's the case, there appears to be evidence that some of the current problems had their roots in policy changes that occurred under Clinton. Certainly, Clinton seemed happy with Greenspan running the Federal Reserve. Also, Democrats have been in control of congress for a few years now. They could have recognized the mortgage/CDO problems sooner. So, it's hard to put the blame entirely on one party or one political left/right side. I think both sides need to share the blame for this and we as willing participants must as well.

I think human nature is the ultimate cause of these sorts of problems (and, I don't just mean greed, but also a kind of blindness and lack of good judgment that seems to happen time and time again). Regulation may help, but it can also easily hurt and generally speaking, people always find some way around it. This is not the first economic crisis and it will not be the last.

It seems ironic to me that you mentioned communism as a counter-example when heavier regulation would seem to be a step toward communism. Plus, I think there's a lot of evidence that shows communism is not even close to dead. Many "new" political viewpoints these days have clear links to communist beliefs of the not so distant past.

I will not agree nor will i disagree on this and Bush is to blame

Abo-fraggin-lutely I agree. I gotta wonder why it even survived after the Depression era, or after Reagen. Historically speaking, we Americans have a short attention span. These examples of how frakked the Right Wing's economic religion is aren't exactly ancient Rome folks. There are people walking around right now who were alive when those happened. I was born during the latter for fudge's sake.

> I think the current crisis show that capitalism
> doesn't work in the end because of greed.
> But then, there's just not 1 perfect system.

To paraphrase a recent episode of Battlestar Galactica, pure capitalism can't work, and pure socialism can't work. They're too weak.

That's my way of saying I support a mixed economy (and watch the Right Wingers in the thread completely ignore that and call me a straight up Commie).

I'm not sure I agree even that Communism has been so relegated. Maybe it should be, given its dismal performance, but I get the idea that a lot of people still really like the idea and are quite willing to ignore history.

Current Failing Left Wing economic policy, healthcare platform, taxes and other positions is going in the direction of Socialism/Communism.

> Current Failing Left Wing economic policy, healthcare
> platform, taxes and other positions is going in
> the direction of Socialism/Communism.

Currently failing? Dude, we've only had 2-3 months to fix the problems cause by your party's thrice failed economic philosophy started creating nearly 30 years ago. Grow up, we're not going to be able to clean up YOUR mess overnight. So shut the fudge up and let the people who don't think the economics is a religion and Milton Friedman is it's prophet do their grown up things.

cerealkiller, go to your room!

No.

As tempting as it sounds, I am staying out of this one.

Well, the right wingers here are extremely dumb, so it's best just to ignore them.

Oh for god's sake.

Failed economic policies ought to be abandoned, just as any failed idea or theory.

However, it's completely idiotic to assume that the root cause of the current global financial crisis is 'right wing' policies. The UK has had 12 years of a Labour government and we're even more screwed than you lot are.

You see Zeitgeist 1 and 2? Reality is the politicians don't control anything so it doesn't matter if Obama, Bush or Oprah is President.

Ash heaps are good for making soap or fertilizer.

If economic policies fail due to some problem inherent to them, then they should be abandoned regardless of their political origins.

Like democracy, its not perfect, but its the best we have. Maybe a slightly more socially-conscious capitalism.

My dad always taught us to never discuss Religion or politics, unless of course you want others to disagree with you...lol

Disagree. Communism is evil.

Socialists infiltrated the Republican party, as RINOS. The communists infiltrated the Democrat party. From my experience, I've seen the leftist socialists at work in infiltrating the Republican party. One RINO admitted before our group he was a liberal, tried to fight against us in taking the seats on the Central Committee of the Republican party in our county. Took us to court, but we won in the end. We want to bring sane government back.....less government, less taxes, more individual responsibility

> Disagree. Communism is evil.

The problem here is that the LJD def. or Communism seems to have only tangential connections to the actual thing; i.e. you basically just use it as a generic catch-all to describe anything you don't like.

Frostie, open your eyes....

Being told to open my eyes by a religious nut is a bit like being called fat by Rush Limbaugh, mean by Ann Coulter, short-tempered by Bill O'Reilly, crazy by Khadaffi, a murderer by O.J. AND Bin Laden....

Frosty...again, when you grow up and mature, you'll see the light...

Okay, seriously, you need to stop referring to your paranoid delusions as "maturity." I'm the one going to college, expanding my horizons, and researching things. You on other hand repeating debunked urban myths as gospel and take at face value anything you see in a Right Wing pamphlet. You never grew up, you only grew old. One is something we all do. The other is something I chose to do, and you haven't (yet you continue to claim I haven't; again, irony).

Frosty, I'm not trying to insult you, but you are in an indoctrinating entity...higher education. Why do you think some people turn away from universities? The Amish, Jehovah Witnesses?

I saw about 20 years ago, on the Phil Donahue Show, an audience full of people with degrees, masters and what not, but none of them could find meaningful employment. They're in debt to their eyeballs for the rest of their lives, my niece is one of them. I talked to a PH.D. recently at a luncheon with my group..she said, she had been indoctrinated, that is what the colleges do best...she said a PH.D is cow manure,(or words to that effect) just piled higher. She lives in San Francisco, went to U.C. Berkeley. She finally opened her eyes, and said, "how could I have been sucked in?".

I think it is good you're trying to help yourself, but keep a keen eye on what they're teaching. I know the socialist/communists are doing their best to indoctrinate....I came face to face with one in a local high school. My granddaughter said she noticed it in high school.

I hope the best for you Frosty.

Fear not those that can kill the body, but those that can kill the soul.

Don't be duped, and later have to feel silly, saying "how could I have been sucked in?"

Colleges/Universities are communist breeding grounds.

> Frosty, I'm not trying to insult you, but you
> are in an indoctrinating entity...higher education.
> Why do you think some people turn away from universities?
> The Amish, Jehovah Witnesses?
>

And the Branch Davidians, and the Jonestown people and the Manson family, and...

> I saw about 20 years ago, on the Phil Donahue
> Show, an audience full of people with degrees,
> masters and what not, but none of them could find
> meaningful employment.

Which I'm sure had nothing to do with the economy, right?

> They're in debt to their
> eyeballs for the rest of their lives, my niece
> is one of them. I talked to a PH.D. recently
> at a luncheon with my group..she said, she had
> been indoctrinated, that is what the colleges
> do best...she said a PH.D is cow manure,(or words
> to that effect) just piled higher.

Oh, so you talked to a friend and that is proof eh? Well I talked to a friend of mine who is a Christian and he thinks you're nuts and gives his religion a bad name. His name's Mike BTW.

> She lives
> in San Francisco, went to U.C. Berkeley. She
> finally opened her eyes, and said, "how could
> I have been sucked in?".
>

He lives in Oregon.

> I think it is good you're trying to help yourself,
> but keep a keen eye on what they're teaching.
> I know the socialist/communists are doing their
> best to indoctrinate....I came face to face with
> one in a local high school. My granddaughter
> said she noticed it in high school.
>

Your granddaughter who I assume you brow-beat with your paranoid delusions. The Soviet Union fell nearly 20 years ago. Communism is pretty much over. And don't bring up China, they're more of an authoritarian government than anything else.

> I hope the best for you Frosty.
>

No, you don't. You want scared, and full of hate, and ignorance. You want the opposite of what is best for me.

> Fear not those that can kill the body, but those
> that can kill the soul.
>

Like you, with your paranoia and your bigotry and your dishonesty. The "soul" as it were is far more easily destroyed by what you do to yourself than what anyone can do to you.

> Don't be duped, and later have to feel silly,
> saying "how could I have been sucked in?"
>
> Colleges/Universities are communist breeding grounds.

Only in your brain, which never grew out of the rampant and often ridiculous levels of paranoia Right Wing politicians pushed on us in the 1950s, conveniently forgetting things like oh the 20 million Russians who died fighting fascism!

I'm very secure in myself. I can see and hear what is going on, but young impressionable youth, are blind.

How old is your friend? What did you tell him?

My granddaughter will not be indoctrinated by the leftists, ungodly people.

During the time the Donahue show was on, the economy was good. College promises everything, but a job.

Communism is alive.

Yes, I do wish you well, because one day you'll see the light...you can't help yourself now.

How am I full of hate and ignorance? I want you to look around you. You have been indoctrinated to be politically correct.

> How am I full of hate and ignorance?

Have you ever tried reading your own posts? I see less bullcrap on farms.

Yes, I know what my posts read. Frosty, you and others are insecure, it's easier for you and others to go along with the flow of socialism, than to fight for what is right...freedom.

What we have now is Robin Hood in reverse, the tyrannical government taking from the poor and middle class and giving it to the world elite.

> What we have now is Robin Hood in reverse, the
> tyrannical government taking from the poor and
> middle class and giving it to the world elite.
>

No, that was what we had before. You are either lying or stupid, or perhaps some combination of the above. A tax-cut for the middle class in Obama's first three months, and you're doging about "Robin Hood in reverse?" Excuse me? You know what? I take back calling you stupid. You are WORSE than stupid. You think and treat the rest of us like WE are stupid.