How did you feel when you found out that someone tossed shoes at George Bush?

Appreciative.

Disappointed

Indifferent.

bemused

I was initially amused but then thought the display was rude. Very disrespectful. I don't care for the guy, either, but I felt this was a severe loss of face for GW.

At first I was amused, then I found it ironic that a guy who's touting his record on security on his way out the door was able to get shoes thrown at him. Then there was a teeny bit of concern. Regardless of how I feel about him personally (hatred burning hotter than a thousand suns, ICYDK), I don't like the idea that someone was able to get close enough to the President of my country to throw shoes. What if those had been grenades?

Amused

I'm curious, how is it a loss of face for Bush? He didn't do anything other then duck the flying shoes. How does that cause him to lose face?

It made me very angry.
Even if you don't like him, he deserves to be treated with respect. Six year olds don't even throw shoes at each other.
I think it irritated me more though that people found it funny..and only funny.

Amused!!

I laughed my ass off.

Somewheres between indifferent and glad it happened because its pretty hilarious and offers me opportunities to crack jokes about it.

I didn't know about it until my husband mentioned it to me. I don't read the news.

I LOL until I passed out.

Just the fact that someone did not treat him with respect in public. I was just thinking if that had happened to one of our customers in Asia, for example, it would be a huge embarrassment. Peope are proud and they hate to be made to look silly. (If this still doesn't make sense, I'm blaming it on jetlag---I'm a complete mess!)

How are you, by the way???

Offended and pissed. I don't care that Bush is an butt-hole; he's still our president. I would have rammed my pen or pencil into the throat of that reporter had I been there.

It seems to me that someone being disrespectful (especially in a stupid way) loses face themselves, not the person to whom they're being disrespectful. I guess that's one of those cultural things. I tend to think of a person as being responsible only for their own actions.

I'm doing well myself. Right now I'm enjoying delightful warm breezes down in St. Kitts and planning to fly to Dominica this afternoon while I'm seeing that there's yet another winter storm warning in New Hampshire.

interested in how slowly people reacted. no secret service rushing in to protect him!!

Amused. I was also impressed by his ducking reflexes, and the fact that he didn't get all that upset about it.

That was no lame duck!

Well ducked from Bush.

The journalist had a point when he yelled abuse at him though

I can only assume that security was so tight, that the only possible weapon the journalist had at hos disposal was his shoes.

> I can only assume that security was so tight,
> that the only possible weapon the journalist had
> at hos disposal was his shoes.

Actually, I imagine that the shoes were his plan all along. You see, in Arab culture, hitting someone with the bottom of your shoes is considered to be a grave insult; beucase the bottom of the shoe is in the dirt, and that's essentially what you are comparing someone to when you do that to them.

Amused

I knew what it meant when it was done so I saw it as an insult (like it could be anything else anyway) but it's par for the course I suppose. People have less respect nowadays in general and this guy was making what he saw as a political statement anyway. Being a Canadian and not a fan of Bush myself for a split second I thought "meh" but then I got kind of pissed because the guy's obviously an butt-hole. I don't usually find butt-holes funny.

I LOLed.

> interested in how slowly people reacted. no secret
> service rushing in to protect him!!

Those were my thought, too. When I watched the video, I got the impression that that Bush's bodyguards were rather non-plussed about the whole event, and that they approached the perpetrator in an easy manner.

> Offended and pissed. I don't care that Bush is an butt-hole; he's still
> our president. I would have rammed my pen or pencil into the throat
> of that reporter had I been there.

Normally I would agree with you, however because of how uttery funny and retarded the incident was, its hard to stay mad at this doofus when you're laughing your ass off.

People have done worse to each other. Plus, he didn't even get hit. It wasn't kind, but I'm pretty sure I'm not worried that Bush was embarrassed any more than he has ever already embarrassed himself.

I thought it was cool , that guy was right in the strike zone with both pitches. I wonder of SNL will have a skit on this.

The odd part about it though he was able to reload before the security jumped in.

Very pleased now i want to throw dirty bras and panties at Bush

They aimed for Bush Duck head strike one and two at his head

yeah, i thought it was really amazing........... i can understand not getting there for the first shoe thrown but they should have been in front of him for the second shoe. and this guy was taking his shoes off and throwing them, not that quickly either, and he got off two good throws!!!

Um, my first thought was that's quite funny. Then I thought it's a sad state of affairs when someone is throwing shoes at the leader of the most powerful country in the world.

Did he throw it back? What was his response?

Its funny the whole place didn't start throwing shoes at him.

He took it in stride and was kinda joking about he said also that people have waved at him with less then five fingers and it kinda comes with the job at times.

> Its funny the whole place didn't start throwing shoes at him.

Gee now that would crack me up to see all those shoes hitting Bush in his noggin smack" bam" boom"

I thought it was funny, then thought "Whoa, is that person in deep crap".

Who throws a shoe?! Honestly... you fight like a woman.

YES!!!!

Frostbrand, yep, that is a one way to look at it. Like it I DID like my president and someone was able to throw anything at him / her. Scary.

Other, Surprised that someone was "able" to do it............. where was the secret service??

Aw well, at least his response was fairly dignified!

Amused

I laughed. It is simply funny to me.

Funny? I never laughed. The first thoughts in my mind were where the hell were the agents?

Other. Vindicated.

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12. It feels good.

I laughed my ass off and felt sorry no shoe hit him in his face.

> Offended and pissed. I don't care that Bush is an butt-hole; he's still
> our president. I would have rammed my pen or pencil into the throat
> of that reporter had I been there.

And that's exactly why the rest of the world is disgusted by you violent Americans. You'll never learn!

> Offended and pissed. I don't care that Bush is
> an butt-hole; he's still our president. I would
> have rammed my pen or pencil into the throat of
> that reporter had I been there.

An awfully dispoportionate response wouldn't you say? Akin to killing a man's entire family right down to the second cousins because he cut you off in traffic.

The lessons you want to teach are of no interest to me. Keep preaching to your fellow, cowardly Europeans.

nO, not at all, he attacked our president. How could you have known what was is his shoes...been to an airport lately? Now, of course, once the incident ended, punishment would have to be different. But the bottom line is that the USSS agents on duty should have killed hime before he had the chance to attack our president.

You're probably too dumb to realize that my country is one of the closest allies to your country and that we still have troops in Afghanistan.
Nevertheless, better a coward than a blood thirsty shoot first talk later American.

I am well aware of international relations; I just can't stand you.

Also, I worked with the Dutch in both Bosnia and Afghanistan; your country does have men, but you're not one of them. It's only natural that you value cowardice.

The problem is that you don't realize that the real men of your nation have tp pay for your arrogance with their own blood. So again, cowar down in your basement, spew forth your ridiculous politics, and watch as the men of your nation anty up their share of your nation's responsibilities. Then, when it's all done, clean your panties.

> nO, not at all, he attacked our president. How
> could you have known what was is his shoes...been
> to an airport lately?

I'm sure the silence of any bomb sniffing dogs or explosive detection machines may have been a clue.

> Now, of course, once the
> incident ended, punishment would have to be different.
> But the bottom line is that the USSS agents on
> duty should have killed hime before he had the
> chance to attack our president.

Judging from his reactions, President Bush himself seems to disagree with you.

> I am well aware of international relations; I
> just can't stand you.
>
> Also, I worked with the Dutch in both Bosnia and
> Afghanistan; your country does have men, but you're
> not one of them. It's only natural that you value
> cowardice.
>
> The problem is that you don't realize that the
> real men of your nation have tp pay for your arrogance
> with their own blood. So again, cowar down in
> your basement, spew forth your ridiculous politics,
> and watch as the men of your nation anty up their
> share of your nation's responsibilities. Then,
> when it's all done, clean your panties.

Cowardice is being an butt-hole on an internet forum to a guy who lives thousands of miles away.

Of course I am not one of them. Here only losers join the army because they're good at nothing and often have a criminal record. That's why we say here: if you fail at everything, you can always join the army.

Furthermore, more than 70% of the Dutch were against the wars against Afghanistan and Iraq because they were based on lies. That has nothing to do with cowardice, but common sense. Something you lack.

> |> nO, not at all, he attacked our president. How
> |> could you have known what was is his shoes...been
> |> to an airport lately?
>
> I'm sure the silence of any bomb sniffing dogs or explosive detection
> machines may have been a clue.

You forgot the pat-down and visual inspection of all items, but that's not the point. Security measures are not perfect, and I would lethally attack anyone who attacked any president of the United States if I had the responsibility of his security. If Bush were a liberal, I guarantee your reaction would be entirely different, and that's the problem.

I can't stand Bush either, and frankly, he should be tried for treason for selling our nation to foreigners. But I would defend him with my life, if need be, from someone attacking him. It's about the office of the President of the United States of America, not about George W. Bush.

>
> |> Now, of course, once the
> |> incident ended, punishment would have to be different.
> |> But the bottom line is that the USSS agents on
> |> duty should have killed hime before he had the
> |> chance to attack our president.
>
> Judging from his reactions, President Bush himself seems to disagree
> with you.

OH REALLY, the detachment of USS agents assigned to him would disagree with that statement entirely. Why don't you go to govexec.com and find out what really happened?

>
> Cowardice is being an butt-hole on an internet forum to a guy who lives
> thousands of miles away.


I guess then, you would be the biggest coward of all, considering how often you like to attack me, and how many miles apart we live.

> |> |> nO, not at all, he attacked our president.
> How
> |> |> could you have known what was is his
> shoes...been
> |> |> to an airport lately?
> |>
> |> I'm sure the silence of any bomb sniffing
> dogs or explosive detection
> |> machines may have been a clue.
>
> You forgot the pat-down and visual inspection
> of all items,

Oh, yeah that too.

> but that's not the point. Security
> measures are not perfect, and I would lethally
> attack anyone who attacked any president of the
> United States if I had the responsibility of his
> security. If Bush were a liberal, I guarantee
> your reaction would be entirely different, and
> that's the problem.
>

Then you don't know me at all. All I'm pointing out is that the Secret Service in the past has no problem stopping would-be assassins without lethal force before. And besides, your way of thinking is dangerous. If this man were killed and it turned out he had nothing lethal on him, it would only be further fuel for the already blazing anti-American fires around the world, fires that people like Bush, you, cerealkiller, and everyone on the American Right Wig seem intent on pouring more and more kerosene on. I swear, I look at you people and I think, "Are they TRYING to get us nuked?" Then I remember that a lot of you people are end timers and I hang my head in shame that I live in a country where people who feel it's their responsibility to bring about the end of the world can actually make it farther up the ladder in society than the "crazy person on the corner" rung.

> I can't stand Bush either, and frankly, he should
> be tried for treason for selling our nation to
> foreigners. But I would defend him with my life,
> if need be, from someone attacking him. It's
> about the office of the President of the United
> States of America, not about George W. Bush.
>
> |>
> |> |> Now, of course, once the
> |> |> incident ended, punishment would have
> to be different.
> |> |> But the bottom line is that the USSS
> agents on
> |> |> duty should have killed hime before
> he had the
> |> |> chance to attack our president.
> |>
> |> Judging from his reactions, President Bush
> himself seems to disagree
> |> with you.
>
> OH REALLY, the detachment of USS agents
> assigned to him would disagree with that statement
> entirely. Why don't you go to govexec.com and
> find out what really happened?
>

The story you must want me to see has probably been archived, cause I saw nothing on the front page in reference to your sarcastic dogy remark. Look, I know you're a Right Winger and all, but seriously, you have to detach yourself from the idea that being a dick is the same as winning an argument.

>
> |>
> |> Cowardice is being an butt-hole on an internet
> forum to a guy who lives
> |> thousands of miles away.
>
>
> I guess then, you would be the biggest coward
> of all, considering how often you like to attack
> me, and how many miles apart we live.
>
>

Aw, typical Right Wing backwards thinking. I live closer to you than Maarten does. Also, you have a hisotry of treating any strong disagreement as an atatck regardless of how calmy and rationally it's put forth, so...

>
> Then you don't know me at all. All I'm pointing out is that the Secret
> Service in the past has no problem stopping would-be assassins without
> lethal force before. And besides, your way of thinking is dangerous.
> If this man were killed and it turned out he had nothing lethal on
> him, it would only be further fuel for the already blazing anti-American
> fires around the world, fires that people like Bush, you, cerealkiller,
> and everyone on the American Right Wig seem intent on pouring more
> and more kerosene on.

He doesn't have to have anything on him; he just has to attack the president. As far as my wanting to go to war, that's just stupid...especially when I consider that at 38 years old, I would be more likely to volunteer to defend our nation than you would be at 27 years old. Further, if you think soldiers want to go to war, than you really haven't a clue. Most soldiers are more apprehensive about war than you would ever be, because they would be the ones fighting it. Gosh, all you ever do is pull out your liberal marching orders to craft a response; you never have any original thoughts to offer. And that's why I know that if it were Obama who had shoes thrown at him, you're reaction would be entirely disparate to your views here. Your utter adherence to all things liberal makes you nothing more than an idealogue. If I were you, I would demand my money back from the community college you have been attending because thay haven't been teaching, they've been indoctrinating.

>I swear, I look at you people and I think, "Are
> they TRYING to get us nuked?" Then I remember that a lot of you people
> are end timers and I hang my head in shame that I live in a country
> where people who feel it's their responsibility to bring about the
> end of the world can actually make it farther up the ladder in society
> than the "crazy person on the corner" rung.

What on earth are you talking about? Are you inferring that I want to end the world because I think the USSS agents should have been better at their job? Surely, this is just some silly hyperbole to make a point? Or do you really believe this nonsense?

So...again...you live thousands of miles away from me (1500 - 2000) and you constantly attack me. By your own standards, you are truly a coward. Face it, you developed these standards, not me.

>
> |>
> |> Then you don't know me at all. All I'm pointing
> out is that the Secret
> |> Service in the past has no problem stopping
> would-be assassins without
> |> lethal force before. And besides, your way
> of thinking is dangerous.
> |> If this man were killed and it turned out
> he had nothing lethal on
> |> him, it would only be further fuel for the
> already blazing anti-American
> |> fires around the world, fires that people
> like Bush, you, cerealkiller,
> |> and everyone on the American Right Wig seem
> intent on pouring more
> |> and more kerosene on.
>
> He doesn't have to have anything on him;
> he just has to attack the president. As
> far as my wanting to go to war, that's just stupid...especially
> when I consider that at 38 years old, I would
> be more likely to volunteer to defend our nation
> than you would be at 27 years old. Further, if
> you think soldiers want to go to war, than you
> really haven't a clue. Most soldiers are more
> apprehensive about war than you would ever be,
> because they would be the ones fighting it.

I was talking about Right Wingers, not soldiers. And I think you knew that.

> Gosh,
> all you ever do is pull out your liberal marching
> orders to craft a response; you never have any
> original thoughts to offer.

Typical. Anotehr stupid fudging lie froma fudgeigns tupid Right Winger. I am not surprised. Sigh.

> And that's why I
> know that if it were Obama who had shoes thrown
> at him, you're reaction would be entirely disparate
> to your views here.

Did you even read my response you dumbfudge? Such as the part about concern about someone being able to get that close? Of course you didn't. That would ruin your rant.

> Your utter adherence to all
> things liberal makes you nothing more than an
> idealogue. If I were you, I would demand my money
> back from the community college you have been
> attending because thay haven't been teaching,
> they've been indoctrinating.
>



> |>I swear, I look at you people and I think,
> "Are
> |> they TRYING to get us nuked?" Then I remember
> that a lot of you people
> |> are end timers and I hang my head in shame
> that I live in a country
> |> where people who feel it's their responsibility
> to bring about the
> |> end of the world can actually make it farther
> up the ladder in society
> |> than the "crazy person on the corner" rung.
>
> What on earth are you talking about? Are you
> inferring that I want to end the world because
> I think the USSS agents should have been better
> at their job?

No, but I'm sure that's how you saw it after running my comments through your English-to-Right Wing dictionary.

> Surely, this is just some silly
> hyperbole to make a point? Or do you really believe
> this nonsense?
>

Does it matter? Either way you'll be a dick about it.

> So...again...you live thousands of miles away
> from me (1500 - 2000) and you constantly attack
> me. By your own standards, you are truly a coward.
> Face it, you developed these standards, not me.

OK, this whole leaving out half of what I say has got to stop. if you can't make an argument based on the whole paragraph, try being a decent huyman being and don't bother trying.

> At first I was amused, then I found it ironic
> that a guy who's touting his record on security
> on his way out the door was able to get shoes
> thrown at him. Then there was a teeny bit of concern.
> Regardless of how I feel about him personally
> (hatred burning hotter than a thousand suns, ICYDK),
> I don't like the idea that someone was able to
> get close enough to the President of my country
> to throw shoes. What if those had been grenades?

See that Matty? That was the reaction I had that you apparently didn't read before you attacked me.

Aw, guys, don't fight. All what matters is, at the end of the day, nobody got hurt. If anyone's a coward, it would be kind of equal. I just don't see how anyone can argue about personal feelings and reactions to a little happening. There are people in third world countries who would love to use this internet access for more useful things than bickering, like porn. :)

*is going to be ignored, no doubt*

Go Frostband and Maarten

Actually, in some respect I will take your suggestion; I am much better off just ignoring Frosty.

I thought it was funny.

For an old fart, he can move pretty quick.

I thought it was pretty funny. I wouldn't have thought it was funny iif it had been a serious attack.