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| JessicaWoman99 | | posted 3-Sep-2008 10:07pm |
My choice of Vice President and John Mc Cain and Sara Naly do not like Barack Obama no Muslim for President |
jettles   | | posted 3-Sep-2008 11:34pm |
impossible to pick ONE issue and so many are interrelated.................. i put economy but that involves the war for me and taxation and almost everything else on the list. it's all important. i gave this a poor rating because i don't like that it was single pick. one issue should never be the only thing or most affecting in your vote, IMHO! i think if it was a rating survey i would like it more!! |
jettles   |
> My choice of Vice President and John Mc Cain and Sara Naly do not
> like Barack Obama no Muslim for President
drop the muslim sh!% already!
|
Galomorro   | | posted 4-Sep-2008 12:05am |
I can't pick just one. If I hear that a candidate is against something that I'm really for, then I'm not gonna trust him or her. There's no single issue -- there are several of them. So I'd definitely pick health care (your "Medical Services"), "abortion" (if they're pro-life, I'm anti-them); the economy and taxation are two others. "Each candidate's faith" would only matter to me if they want to force their religion on others -- religion should be a private matter. And you don't know what their ability as Commander in Chief IS until they're actually elected to this office. |
| HMC35 | | posted 4-Sep-2008 12:11am |
It's hard to say what the tipping point was for me .. I never really cared for McCain in general, and when I have a bad feeling about someone it keeps from caring to learn much about them. But I love Obama, have since the beginning. I think I'm ready for a change .. it doesn't seem like replacing Bush with McCain will change much.
I picked the war, though. |
| HMC35 | | (reply to Galomorro) posted 4-Sep-2008 12:13am |
True. Separation of church and state FTW. |
Galomorro   | | (reply to HMC35) posted 4-Sep-2008 12:23am |
Yes, and the war too, as you said. There're many issues and one has to decide whether the candidate is telling the truth or promising things he doesn't plan to keep... (I just naturally don't trust politicians.) |
| HMC35 | | (reply to Galomorro) posted 4-Sep-2008 12:28am |
I honestly don't trust politicians either. I tried listening to Palin's speech, and the entire time I felt I was being sold a new car. A very inexperienced new car .. yep. |
Galomorro   | | (reply to HMC35) posted 4-Sep-2008 12:31am |
What little I've heard of Palin so far disgusts me a LOT. My sister is really into Obama/Biden, and though I was originally for Nader/Gonzalez, I'm now more trusting of Obama than I was. Michele I like a lot -- she seems like a "real" person, and not a snooty politician. |
| HMC35 | | (reply to Galomorro) posted 4-Sep-2008 12:33am |
That's what I go for as well. I'm more inclined to trust someone who's at ease with themselves .. when I look at McCain I feel like he's insecure in this time period. That's not just a joke about his age either. He just seems so uncomfortable around anyone under the age of fifty.
Okay, so maybe it's a slight joke about his age. Slight. |
Galomorro   | | (reply to HMC35) posted 4-Sep-2008 12:35am |
You're right. He does look uncomfortable in this time period and seems unsure of what to say. We should've learned our lessons by now -- we need someone younger and more in tune with the real people out there. |
| Cain |
None of the above - I don't have a vote. |
Enheduanna  |
I'm not a single-issue voter and I can't boil my decision down to just one thing. It's based on a number of issues, all of which I think are equally important. |
Matty    |
I don't know anymore; I used to think it would have been the economy. Now, I'm thinking of not voting and making a vigil instead. There is a Greek Orthodoxed Church about an hour from me which is hosting a 6-hour Mass, asking the Lord to guide us through these times. I think I may not vote at all and petition a higher power to help lead our nation. |
Matty    | | (reply to HMC35) posted 4-Sep-2008 8:50am |
And a joke in poor taste to boot. Have you ever considered that McCain is uncomfortable because of all the metal hardware that holds his upper body together? Or that he is in constant pain? I'm not a McCain supporter, but this is a little beyond the pale. McCain looks uncomfortable because he is uncomfortable. He's uncomfortable because he suffered atrocities at the hands of the Viet Cong. I can understand how you lean toward Obama, but, come on, poking fun at McCain's plight is just not right.
I also realize you may not have considered this, and if that is the case, fair enough, I guess. But one must consider all possible factors wehn making a judgement. McCain's grimaces and obvious physical discomfort make me shudder, not laugh. |
| ausfox |
I'm not American |
they    |
I'll vote on the off chance that my vote actually means crap.
I chose the war, only because it's closest. I will vote based on who I feel is less corrupt.
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Iseult  | | posted 4-Sep-2008 10:44am |
Okay... |
Melf     | | posted 4-Sep-2008 11:29am |
Not being American. |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to jettles) posted 4-Sep-2008 12:20pm |
> |> My choice of Vice President and John Mc Cain and Sara Naly do
> not
> |> like Barack Obama no Muslim for President
>
> drop the muslim sh!% already!
>
>
Ooops that was Palin should have said and her attack speech against Barack Obama was real good last night the Republican Convention and oh yes i am a Democrat by the way who might decide to vote Republican in about 2 months
and wow it is getting so close and Mc Cain will beat Obama. |
cloudhugger     | | posted 4-Sep-2008 12:36pm |
I'm saying the economy. I want to say medical services, what ever that means, because that is my chosen profession-health care. I am not covered by insurance, I am not recognized as an alternative to prescription pills on certain issues (pain pills as opposed to physical balance in the body) so even if the government makes radical changes in helth care, I don't see alternative therapies, and health care for the healthy going to happen in my active work lifetime.
I would like to go through a day and not hear excuses for not being able to get a massage or muscle work because they cannot afford it. Health care should be a proprity in people's lives, you cannot make them do that even if the government forces them to. It doesn't work like that. |
bill   | | posted 4-Sep-2008 12:55pm |
I don't like trying to carve it down to a single issue. I think we do that too much. It seems like candidates run on issues, but then when they get into office, everything changes. I try to focus on what the person seems to be like overall and how they tend to solve problems. |
Frostbrand  |
I'm not a single issue voter. I like to think big picture. |
jettles   |
that ought to work well for you in your life! good luck with the strategy! |
| HMC35 | | (reply to Matty) posted 4-Sep-2008 8:34pm |
And this is one more reason why he's not fit to run this country. |
Crayons   | | posted 4-Sep-2008 11:06pm |
Well, I picked Economy because there was no Other. I was going to say Environmental issues, maybe.
Of course, when I first heard of Obama I was taken in by his "coolness" and "newness' like any other teenager should be. And his lovely smile.
But of course once I learned more about him and his policies and issues and whatever, I got into it more.
He's gonna work on the energy crisis thing, alternative fuels and the like, and he seems to care about the people. And he has a lovely smile!
Plus, he has a family and everything. McCain is just another guy who doesn't really seem to hit close to home, not a family guy.
And I think Obama thinks of this country as his big family and wants to give everyone opportunities.
Plus Obama has this fabulous smile! It's so reassuring.
Did I neglect to mention that smile? |
romkey  | | (reply to Matty) posted 5-Sep-2008 12:51am |
I'm uncomfortable with the direction McCain has been taking. The McCain of several years ago, I liked and respected. McCain has to be responsible for the direction his campaign takes, and they're creeping more towards Bush-era tactics. Now McCain punitively won't talk with news networks which ask hard questions about Palin's experience?
I particularly find Palin scary. The woman tried to ban books. She has very little experience. She diverts attention from issues with rhetoric. The public record contradicts her own stated involvement in "the pipeline to nowhere".
She's not someone I want anywhere near the White House. |
romkey  |
> Barack Obama no Muslim for President
Why do you keep insisting that Obama is a muslim when he clearly is not? |
they    | | (reply to romkey) posted 5-Sep-2008 7:09am |
> Now McCain punitively won't
> talk with news networks which
> ask hard questions about Palin's
> experience?
Yeah, that was too funny. Did you see the interview? The guy she was interviewing should have just admitted the dog doesn't have any foreign policy experience.. Instead, he keeps bringing up the fact that Alaska has a national guard and she dealt with them... and since the national guard is sometimes sent overseas - this means she has foriegn policy experience.
By the way, where did you learn about McCain's snub of CNN? The only place I saw that announced how he told Larry King he won't interview is on (of all places) Perezhilton.com.
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Matty    | | (reply to HMC35) posted 5-Sep-2008 7:30am |
Maybe you're right, but that wasn't the point. |
Matty    | | (reply to romkey) posted 5-Sep-2008 7:47am |
I'm not thrilled with either candidate, but what Obama says, generally makes me feel better...especially in terms of Benedict Arnold cooporations. However, I stil don't trust him; I think he'll fold like a cheap suit when met with real pressure. I don't think Obama has the stones to be president.
McCain on the other hand, will absolutely do what he says; there's no force on earth that's going to back him down. The problem is that he says the sam old tired bullcrap; or in other words, I know in advance I won't like him.
Palin and Biden...who cares really? The VP is bascially the president's dog, so their views and experience matter little. Granted, the VP is also the president of the Senate, but this is largely a ceremonial role.
I think I've made up my mind that I'm going to vigil to a Greek Orthodox Church on election day to pray that God leads our country in the right direction...and not vote on purpose. I realize that this probably seems foolish to you, but given the choices for the president, I think you can see that it won't hurt. |
romkey  | | (reply to they) posted 5-Sep-2008 8:37am |
I'd have to look it up... CNN just said that he cancelled; it was another news outlet that gave that as the reason. |
romkey  | | (reply to Matty) posted 5-Sep-2008 8:38am |
I think that if there are no candidates that you feel good about voting for (or feel that it's necessary to vote against), that doesn't sound foolish at all. |
Matty    | | (reply to romkey) posted 5-Sep-2008 8:58am |
Thanks. |
| HMC35 | | (reply to Matty) posted 5-Sep-2008 6:38pm |
My original joke - which was merely a joke - wasn't about McCain's grimaces of pain, which I have yet to notice .. it was about how uncomfortable he seemed when speaking. In the sense of "awkwardness". Now that I've reread your comment I see my mistake in my response.
Anyway, it's all good. |
southernyankee  |
#1) school vochers, me being for it, not on this list
#2) forieng policy, not really on the list either
#3) social security, privatize or get rid of it completely, which I guess falls under economy |
southernyankee  | | (reply to they) posted 6-Sep-2008 2:48am |
Quite ironic, since if you saw the RNC and looked at their big banner, with all the corporate logos on it, CNN was there. |
Frostbrand  |
> #3) social security, privatize or get rid of it
> completely, which I guess falls under economy
It's been proven that privatizing it doesn't work, and getting rid of it would just increase the number of elderly people and widows living in poverty. Are you really that heartless? It's one of the most succesful government programs in the history of mankind. |
dab   |
I'd be interested in actual proof that privatizing SS doesn't work. Not that I'm in favor of privatizing it, as that phrase has come to mean, I'm what you'd call heartless in that I want it gone. I think it was a bad idea to begin with and it's demonstrated itself a bad idea ever since. We'd be better off if it had never been invented and the best we can do now is eliminate it as quickly as possible without undue harm to those who foolishly decided to depend on it. But if someone has managed to actually prove something in economics, I'd be quite intrigued to see the structure of that proof. |
southernyankee  |
In that case, why not just slightly expand welfare to compensate and for all the elderly people in poverty, why not just put them under the same welfare program everyone else who is on. |
Frostbrand  | | (reply to dab) posted 6-Sep-2008 2:35pm |
> I'd be interested in actual proof that privatizing
> SS doesn't work. Not that I'm in favor of privatizing
> it, as that phrase has come to mean, I'm what
> you'd call heartless in that I want it gone.
> I think it was a bad idea to begin with and it's
> demonstrated itself a bad idea ever since.
Oh yeah, helping elderly people and widows stay off the street. How awful. http://www.socsec.org/publications.asp?pubid=503 http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/P93629.asp
> We'd
> be better off if it had never been invented and
> the best we can do now is eliminate it as quickly
> as possible without undue harm to those who foolishly
> decided to depend on it. But if someone has managed
> to actually prove something in economics, I'd
> be quite intrigued to see the structure of that
> proof.
http://money.howstuffworks.com/personal-finance/fi... Foolishly? Wow, you're as big a sociopath as cerealkiller. There are people who would be dead now without SS. My gradnmother would not have a home. She'd be starving out on the streets with her seizure problems that stem from a motorcycle accident her ex-husband got her into in the 70s. This country would become weaker and weaker as more of our citizens are forced to resort to begging or worse just to survive. We are only as strong as our weakest citizens. I know the phrase UnAmerican has been tossed about so much these past 7 years it's nearly lost all meaning, but I say honestly I find your idea here to be as UnAmerican as you cna get without actually taking up arms against your country. Do you want America's disabled to suffer? Do you want American women who've made the coice to stay at home to lose their homes if the primary breadwinner dies? http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintel...
Of coruse you do. You're a Right Winger. Every Right Wing policy, regardless of intent, has the effect of causing increased human misery, suffering, pian, and death. You are not human beings, you are skin wrapped around a big ball of chaudenfruede. |
dab   |
Well, I really don't see any proofs there. Lots of opinions but I already have plenty of those; I was hoping (not really expecting) for actual proof. But at least you didn't stoop to name-calling.
To lefties I'm a right-winger, to righties I'm a damned hippie. I'll tell you one thing true, I'm not in the middle either. |
southernyankee  |
> |> I'd be interested in actual proof that privatizing
> |> SS doesn't work. Not that I'm in favor of privatizing
> |> it, as that phrase has come to mean, I'm what
> |> you'd call heartless in that I want it gone.
> |> I think it was a bad idea to begin with and it's
> |> demonstrated itself a bad idea ever since.
>
> Oh yeah, helping elderly people and widows stay off the street. How
> awful. http://www.socsec.org/publications.asp?pubid=503 http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/P93629.asp
>
Actually, statistically (I forgot where I've heard it, I can find the link I am sure), the poorest demographic are younger people, in their 20's and 30's. Theres plently of younger people out on the street as well. Why exactly are the elderly and widows a sacred cow, that its more awful for one of them to be homeless as opposed to say a man in his 40's.
> http://money.howstuffworks.com/personal-finance/fi...
> Foolishly? Wow, you're as big a sociopath as cerealkiller. There are
> people who would be dead now without SS. My gradnmother would not
> have a home. She'd be starving out on the streets with her seizure
> problems that stem from a motorcycle accident her ex-husband got her
> into in the 70s.
As horrible as that may be, for every dollar that gets spent on SS, thats one dollar being diverted away from other causes (whether its for welfare in general, helping war veterans, rebuilding national parks, funding schools or police, or tax cuts for some target group).
For the sake of argument, why not get rid of SS althogether and put all of that money into welfare, dividing it among the needy soley based on their needs, not their age. Your grandmother would still qualify based soley on the virtue of her needs, not age. Would that not be a more fair way of doing it? It seems a bit unfair to punish people who live shorter amont of time simply because they live a shorter amount of time. Also, since women live longer, off course they benefit the most from social security, hence they'd be the most hurt if SS was taken away. Duh.
The way I see it, if women and/or the eldery want equal rights and be treated equal (as they should), they should also give up their special benefits.
> This country would become weaker and weaker as more
> of our citizens are forced to resort to begging or worse just to survive.
> We are only as strong as our weakest citizens.
On that note, whether or not we should gut welfare in general, well, thats a side issue and no, I am not that libertarian so I leave it up to you and dab to argue about it. Yes, I think we should have some welfare / safty net, however that net shouldn't play favorites. A single homeless man in his 40's should get the same consideration as a 70-year-old widow about to be thrown into the streets. Why are we as a society such bleeding hearts to the plight of grandma but not the other homeless guy.
Hence, this is one of the many reasons why I consider SS to be a very bad system.
|
Frostbrand  | | (reply to dab) posted 6-Sep-2008 7:48pm |
> Well, I really don't see any proofs there. Lots
> of opinions but I already have plenty of those;
> I was hoping (not really expecting) for actual
> proof. But at least you didn't stoop to name-calling.
>
And lots of numbers and figures and evidence and history and...
|
Frostbrand  |
> |> |> I'd be interested in actual proof
> that privatizing
> |> |> SS doesn't work. Not that I'm in
> favor of privatizing
> |> |> it, as that phrase has come to mean,
> I'm what
> |> |> you'd call heartless in that I want
> it gone.
> |> |> I think it was a bad idea to begin
> with and it's
> |> |> demonstrated itself a bad idea ever
> since.
> |>
> |> Oh yeah, helping elderly people and widows
> stay off the street. How
> |> awful. http://www.socsec.org/publications.asp?pubid=503
> http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/P93629.asp
> |>
>
> Actually, statistically (I forgot where I've heard
> it, I can find the link I am sure), the poorest
> demographic are younger people, in their 20's
> and 30's. Theres plently of younger people out
> on the street as well. Why exactly are the elderly
> and widows a sacred cow, that its more awful for
> one of them to be homeless as opposed to say a
> man in his 40's.
>
I never said they were.
>
> |> http://money.howstuffworks.com/personal-finance/fi...
> |> Foolishly? Wow, you're as big a sociopath
> as cerealkiller. There are
> |> people who would be dead now without SS.
> My gradnmother would not
> |> have a home. She'd be starving out on the
> streets with her seizure
> |> problems that stem from a motorcycle accident
> her ex-husband got her
> |> into in the 70s.
>
> As horrible as that may be, for every dollar that
> gets spent on SS, thats one dollar being diverted
> away from other causes (whether its for welfare
> in general, helping war veterans, rebuilding national
> parks, funding schools or police, or tax cuts
> for some target group).
>
> For the sake of argument, why not get rid
> of SS althogether and put all of that money into
> welfare, dividing it among the needy soley based
> on their needs, not their age. Your grandmother
> would still qualify based soley on the virtue
> of her needs, not age. Would that not be a more
> fair way of doing it? It seems a bit unfair
> to punish people who live shorter amont of time
> simply because they live a shorter amount of time.
> Also, since women live longer, off course they
> benefit the most from social security, hence they'd
> be the most hurt if SS was taken away. Duh.
>
> The way I see it, if women and/or the eldery want
> equal rights and be treated equal (as they should),
> they should also give up their special benefits.
>
We tried it that way in the time before the New Deal. Didn't exactly pan out.
> |> This country would become weaker and weaker
> as more
> |> of our citizens are forced to resort to
> begging or worse just to survive.
> |> We are only as strong as our weakest citizens.
>
> On that note, whether or not we should gut welfare
> in general, well, thats a side issue and no, I
> am not that libertarian so I leave it up to you
> and dab to argue about it. Yes, I think we should
> have some welfare / safty net, however that
> net shouldn't play favorites. A single homeless
> man in his 40's should get the same consideration
> as a 70-year-old widow about to be thrown into
> the streets. Why are we as a society such bleeding
> hearts to the plight of grandma but not the other
> homeless guy.
>
> Hence, this is one of the many reasons why I consider
> SS to be a very bad system.
>
I had a response to this, but the heat here right now is getting to me and I forgot it. I hate summer. |
Kristal_Rose   |
The economy, more specifically creating a means to sustain the economy for the non-wealthy for years to come. I think projects like investing in wind and solar will help with this a lot, much as the WPA helped in the 30's.
'Commander In Chief' is an annoying term. People seem to forget that the term was rarely in use until Bush adopted it. I wasn't to fond of 'Unitary Executive' either. Both imply something different than 'President' used to mean, which was originally a role more like Speaker of the House with a one year consecutive term limit.
Their faith is their own business, and I don't think they should be bringing it up in a political context.
If McCain remained all those things I stand against, yet pledged to stop war instantly, I might vote for him.
I have a hard time voting for people I consider to be murderers. |
Kristal_Rose   |
This is one of the most sensible things you've said, treating SS as welfare, however I don't imagine it'd change much except proportioning taxes to aid the poor. The funds for increased welfare wouldn't be any less than those for reduced SS.
Republican or Democrat should be able to see though that the distinction with the elderly is that they haven't the hopes of getting back on their feet available to a 40 year old.
Regarding eduaction vouchers, I don't recall if you'd go for my plan or not, that of issuing vouchers which could only be redeemed by schools who didn't charge above the vouchers, and didn't discriminate. It would allow for competitive privatised educational institutions or private contractors with alternative education programs, but not facilitate a 'you get what you pay for' model for American education, or is that latter what you were hoping for? |
southernyankee  |
One significant change is less money wasted on overhead, as it would all be under the same office, and make the taxing process slightly less complicated. We can just get rid of that unncessasary 6.25% SS tax on income and tack it on the income tax instead. The SS and the income tax is the same tax really, if you think about it; but we just call it something else.
"The funds for increased welfare wouldn't be any less than those for reduced SS."
That may or may not be the case, depending on how we decide to allocate the funds. If it turns out that we're spending why more than nessasary on SS some money might be left from the increase on welfare.
"Republican or Democrat should be able to see though that the distinction with the elderly is that they haven't the hopes of getting back on their feet available to a 40 year old."
A 40-year-old with injuries or a mental illness wouldn't.
"Regarding eduaction vouchers, I don't recall if you'd go for my plan or not, that of issuing vouchers which could only be redeemed by schools who didn't charge above the vouchers, and didn't discriminate."
I am not sure what you mean by discriminate. You mean don't allow blacks or gays into your schools (which would be illegal for private schools to do even if they don't receive a single penny from the feds)? Or do you mean don't let kids with bad grades / disciplinary problems / low scores on tests in?
Actually, the reason why I am for a voucher program is to help inner city or rural kids get a shot at attending the same schools as middle class kids. I don't see the benefit of banning schools from charging above the vouchers, unless you want to prevent middle class kids from attending the super rich schools.
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| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to romkey) posted 8-Sep-2008 1:35am |
> |> Barack Obama no Muslim for President
>
> Why do you keep insisting that Obama is a muslim when he clearly is
> not?
Oh because he is not Muslim is why i guess and oh George Bush is Muslim for sure |
Kristal_Rose   |
Well George is a long standing family friend of the Saudis, whom I'm sure are at least as Muslim as he is Christian, which is to say businessmen politicians foremost. |
| JessicaWoman99 |
> Well George is a long standing family friend of the Saudis, whom I'm
> sure are at least as Muslim as he is Christian, which is to say businessmen
> politicians foremost.
Yea George Bush the oilman for sure and now i hope Romkey understands why i said Muslim for George and Barack?
because they are oilmen look at the money Barack Obama has he is filthy rich like Bush ?? |
Matty    | | (reply to HMC35) posted 8-Sep-2008 8:28am |
I see, ok...and fair enough. I thought you might poking fun at his physical limitations...my mistake |
Kristal_Rose   |
It's yet to be seen for Obama. |
| JessicaWoman99 |
> It's yet to be seen for Obama.
Obama owns this Mansion in Suadi Arabia and many more mansions as well |
Frostbrand  |
> |> It's yet to be seen for Obama.
>
> Obama owns this Mansion in Suadi Arabia and many
> more mansions as well
Cite your source. |
Kristal_Rose   |
..better than a cave in the Mojave desert. |
| JessicaWoman99 |
> ..better than a cave in the Mojave desert.
Oh and he probably is the Geico Caveman as well have you seen the Obama Geico commercials yes that is Obama alright ranting and raving about Palin and Mc Cain he hates to lose "giggles"!! |
Kristal_Rose   |
It wouldn't surprise me. I saw an Alzheimers medication commercial with a McCain look-alike. |
| JessicaWoman99 |
> It wouldn't surprise me. I saw an Alzheimers medication commercial
> with a McCain look-alike.
And oh oh Obama is smearing Mc Cain with lipstick that he borrowed from Hillary Clinton LoL " |
Kristal_Rose   |
I don't really want to know what these people do when they meet in private. |
LindaH   |
Whatever they do, I heard it involves pit bulls, pigs and lipstick. |
Kristal_Rose   | | (reply to LindaH) posted 11-Sep-2008 12:55am |
It's difficult to get a clear picture of anything. I was figuring from leftist news that Sarah was an insane killer who enjoyed shooting helpless animals from helicopters, and perhaps she is, but it wasn't until I opened a Fairbanks newspaper and saw a Fish & Game pamphlet, that I knew thinning wolf populations was even done with the excuse of increasing moose and caribou numbers (for hunting of course).
Don't those guys mostly eat rodents though?
What does wolf taste like anyhow? I hope wolf kills at least go into pet food and coats instead of rot. |
| JessicaWoman99 |
> I don't really want to know what these people do when they meet in
> private.
Just like Batman and Robin they will beat up on each other biff " poof " bam!~!! and the Lipstick wars have begun |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to LindaH) posted 11-Sep-2008 6:28pm |
> Whatever they do, I heard it involves pit bulls, pigs and lipstick.
Hillary Clinton vs Michelle Obama ? or whatever and Ba-Rack vs Mc Cain in the boxing ring with Lipstick |
LindaH   |
Someone posted a classified Ad in the Anchorage Daily news the other day, in the Lost and found section. "Lost pig with lipstick, headed east. if found, return to Juneau" or something like that. Kind of mean, but funny. |
| JohnCD |
> My choice of Vice President and John Mc Cain and Sara Naly do not
> like Barack Obama no Muslim for President
I agree, no Muslim for president. The radical Islamic groups would love to see Obama get elected. The Muslims have a goal to take over this country (which will never happen) and they figure, what better way than to have one of their own get elected as our president. America needs to wake up to what is going on and do so fast. |
Kristal_Rose   | | (reply to JohnCD) posted 16-Sep-2008 12:02am |
Not you too.
The muslim thing was an email rumor no different than the email rumor that Palin banned tons of books.
I think a musilm president would be a good thing though, actually. It would make more blatantly apparent that the war is about money and oil, not religion and ideology. |
| JohnCD |
> Not you too.
>
> The muslim thing was an email rumor no different than the email rumor
> that Palin banned tons of books.
>
> I think a musilm president would be a good thing though, actually.
> It would make more blatantly apparent that the war is about money
> and oil, not religion and ideology.
Yes, me also. The issue with Obama being a muslim is a lot more than just an email rumor. Trust me, do your homework and research. Having a muslim as our president would not be good at all. That's what these radical Islamic groups who declared war against us in 2001 want. Have you forgotten about the terrorist attacks on 9/11/01 and the countless other terrorist attacks around the world that the mulims are responsible for? I surely hope not. America needs to wake up very soon. |
Joanne   | | (reply to romkey) posted 16-Sep-2008 10:22am |
Truer words are seldom spoken. Being a Canadian, I feel almost as affected by the American vote, if not directly, as you are. I cannot make a choice between McCain and Obama from my Canadian perspective, but Palin IS scary. I can't fathom why McCain chose her. I read what Eve Ensler wrote about her - it's going around as an email attachment, but maybe can be googled. I really, really, really hope you guys don't put Palin in the White House. |
cerealkiller   | | posted 16-Sep-2008 5:27pm |
VP choice. The issues really don't matter since no President is gonna change anything that much. |
Frostbrand  | | (reply to JohnCD) posted 16-Sep-2008 8:22pm |
> |> My choice of Vice President and John Mc
> Cain and Sara Naly do not
> |> like Barack Obama no Muslim for President
>
> I agree, no Muslim for president. The radical
> Islamic groups would love to see Obama get elected.
> The Muslims have a goal to take over this country
> (which will never happen) and they figure, what
> better way than to have one of their own get elected
> as our president. America needs to wake up to
> what is going on and do so fast.
Except, Barack Obama is not a Muslim. It has been debunked literally THOUSANDS of times. You are supposed to stop the Q-tip when there's resistance! |
Frostbrand  | | (reply to JohnCD) posted 16-Sep-2008 8:25pm |
> |> Not you too.
> |>
> |> The muslim thing was an email rumor no different
> than the email rumor
> |> that Palin banned tons of books.
> |>
> |> I think a musilm president would be a good
> thing though, actually.
> |> It would make more blatantly apparent that
> the war is about money
> |> and oil, not religion and ideology.
>
> Yes, me also. The issue with Obama being a muslim
> is a lot more than just an email rumor. Trust
> me, do your homework and research.
I did. That's I know you're wrong. The e-mail campaign is based on "quotes from his books" that don't exist, and a "connection to his father" that is strained at best.
> Having a muslim
> as our president would not be good at all. That's
> what these radical Islamic groups who declared
> war against us in 2001 want.
Not all Muslims are like that, and thank goodness. There are nearly a billion practitioners of that religion in the world. If they really ALL wanted to take over the world, they could.
> Have you forgotten
> about the terrorist attacks on 9/11/01 and the
> countless other terrorist attacks around the world
> that the mulims are responsible for?
Have you forgotten all the terrorist attakcs Muslims AREN'T responsible? Have you also forgotten that it's in bad taste to exploit a national tragedy for selfish reasons?
> I surely
> hope not. America needs to wake up very soon.
>
I agree. They need to wake up and realize that a McCain presidency would mean less jobs, more wars, and less civil liberties. |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to LindaH) posted 17-Sep-2008 4:32pm |
> Someone posted a classified Ad in the Anchorage Daily news the other
> day, in the Lost and found section. "Lost pig with lipstick, headed
> east. if found, return to Juneau" or something like that. Kind of
> mean, but funny.
Just mean and very funny but oh well that's life |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to JohnCD) posted 17-Sep-2008 4:40pm |
> |> My choice of Vice President and John Mc Cain and Sara Naly do
> not
> |> like Barack Obama no Muslim for President
>
> I agree, no Muslim for president. The radical Islamic groups would
> love to see Obama get elected. The Muslims have a goal to take over
> this country (which will never happen) and they figure, what better
> way than to have one of their own get elected as our president. America
> needs to wake up to what is going on and do so fast.
And yet America will never ever wake up!! and realize the truth , hey Barack Obama is truly Muslim in every detail after all he reads the Kuran? which is their own version of a Bible their way |
Frostbrand  |
> |> |> My choice of Vice President and John
> Mc Cain and Sara Naly do
> |> not
> |> |> like Barack Obama no Muslim for President
> |>
> |> I agree, no Muslim for president. The radical
> Islamic groups would
> |> love to see Obama get elected. The Muslims
> have a goal to take over
> |> this country (which will never happen) and
> they figure, what better
> |> way than to have one of their own get elected
> as our president. America
> |> needs to wake up to what is going on and
> do so fast.
>
> And yet America will never ever wake up!! and
> realize the truth , hey Barack Obama is truly
> Muslim in every detail after all he reads the
> Kuran? which is their own version of a Bible their
> way
Citation please. |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to LindaH) posted 19-Sep-2008 7:16pm |
> Someone posted a classified Ad in the Anchorage Daily news the other
> day, in the Lost and found section. "Lost pig with lipstick, headed
> east. if found, return to Juneau" or something like that. Kind of
> mean, but funny.
Aww very cruel and mean!!! but yes it is funny indeed |
| JohnCD |
> |> |> My choice of Vice President and John Mc Cain and Sara
> Naly do
> |> not
> |> |> like Barack Obama no Muslim for President
> |>
> |> I agree, no Muslim for president. The radical Islamic groups
> would
> |> love to see Obama get elected. The Muslims have a goal to take
> over
> |> this country (which will never happen) and they figure, what
> better
> |> way than to have one of their own get elected as our president.
> America
> |> needs to wake up to what is going on and do so fast.
>
> And yet America will never ever wake up!! and realize the truth ,
> hey Barack Obama is truly Muslim in every detail after all he reads
> the Kuran? which is their own version of a Bible their way
I'm hoping and praying that America wakes up very soon to what is going on. Obama is truly a Muslim indeed regardless of what some people may think or say. I've done my homework and research on Obama and my findings are not based on the many emails I've received. The Muslim countries and radical Islamic groups all back Obama and also support him financially. Islam is not a religion of peace and the Muslims, especially the radical Islamic groups are responsible for almost all the terrorism around the world. The Muslims want to take over this country and the world, but the never will, regardless of how hard they try. |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to JohnCD) posted 21-Sep-2008 12:55am |
> |> |> |> My choice of Vice President and John Mc Cain and
> Sara
> |> Naly do
> |> |> not
> |> |> |> like Barack Obama no Muslim for President
> |> |>
> |> |> I agree, no Muslim for president. The radical Islamic
> groups
> |> would
> |> |> love to see Obama get elected. The Muslims have a goal
> to take
> |> over
> |> |> this country (which will never happen) and they figure,
> what
> |> better
> |> |> way than to have one of their own get elected as our president.
> |> America
> |> |> needs to wake up to what is going on and do so fast.
> |>
> |> And yet America will never ever wake up!! and realize the truth
> ,
> |> hey Barack Obama is truly Muslim in every detail after all he
> reads
> |> the Kuran? which is their own version of a Bible their way
>
> I'm hoping and praying that America wakes up very soon to what is
> going on. Obama is truly a Muslim indeed regardless of what some people
> may think or say. I've done my homework and research on Obama and
> my findings are not based on the many emails I've received. The Muslim
> countries and radical Islamic groups all back Obama and also support
> him financially. Islam is not a religion of peace and the Muslims,
> especially the radical Islamic groups are responsible for almost all
> the terrorism around the world. The Muslims want to take over this
> country and the world, but the never will, regardless of how hard
> they try.
Oh yes John me to , I have done my homework on Barack Obama and that was ah ! ha ! Koran? book of Islam
containing revelations made to Muhammad by Allah ) yes this is Barack Obama's bible indeed and what he reads
oh my goodness a Muslim he is? do not want him as the next President and just what Muslims are hoping for?
The U.S.A. will be in deep poopy should Barack Obama be our next President and John we are not making this up
because it is all truth and oh yes we will get hammered by some Survey Central members watch out" |
Kristal_Rose   | | (reply to JohnCD) posted 21-Sep-2008 2:14am |
Do you realize there are already 1.1 million muslims living in the US? It's the second most popular religion in the world. It makes just as much sense to blame world terrorism on Christians. Having a muslim US president wouldn't be much more significant than having a jewish or atheist president. |
Kristal_Rose   | | posted 21-Sep-2008 2:18am |
More than getting hammered, you'll just be subject to the quiet hopeless shaking of heads in disbelief that you can believe such things. |
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