| User | Comment |
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| JessicaWoman99 | | posted 27-Aug-2008 9:44pm |
Yes they should vacate their job and leave |
Galomorro   | | posted 27-Aug-2008 9:50pm |
I'm fine with it. What's the big deal? His or her personal life doesn't necessarily mean they're gonna be bad at what they do. And it's their business, not mine. Who cares? Nobody's perfect, least of all a politician. |
southernyankee  | | posted 27-Aug-2008 9:56pm |
no (meaning they are still perfectly fit to hold political rank). The enemy wants to convince us that an affair should disqualify a perfectly good candidate because they want control. |
LindaH   | | posted 27-Aug-2008 10:06pm |
I would be totally fine with it. A guy's weakness when it comes to sexual urges is in no way connected to their ability to be a decent leader. |
Crayons   | | posted 27-Aug-2008 11:19pm |
Hopefully the wife will be providing a sufficient punishment. I sure would. But if he's doing us all good, I guess he should stay. |
Frostbrand  | | posted 28-Aug-2008 12:34am |
It depends. A hyper-moralizing politician should becuase of the high level of hypocracy, i.e. the GOP Congress-critters that tried to impeach Clinton while having affairs of their own, Eliot Spitzer, or John Edwards. On the other hand, someone who's been mostly upfront about their faults and doesn't lie about it when caught shouldn't be hounded quite so much. I have no examples at the moment. However I did chuckle a little when I realized that Bill Clinton has fallen into both categories at difernet points in his politcal life. |
kcthedog  | | posted 28-Aug-2008 2:49am |
It comes down to bad judgment and bad luck; every one of us could be caught in a scandalous situation by accident or by being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I believe the ability to perform a political duty in it self is possible even if you are getting a piece on the side,………Hell yea!
But that would be in bad taste! Not good! |
Melf     | | posted 28-Aug-2008 3:20am |
Why should they be? It's not illegal. It should be up to the public to decide in voting or not. |
Enheduanna  | | posted 28-Aug-2008 7:43am |
I don't think extramarital affairs have anything to do with a political official's ability to do his or her job. The only reason I wouldn't be fine with them staying in office is if I didn't want them to be there in the first place. |
Matty    | | posted 28-Aug-2008 7:46am |
I believe this is realtive to the circumstances. Edwards is a piece of crap because he carried on a affair while his wife was dying, a special kind of low. But I don't feel 1 mistake necessarily precludes someone from being an elected official. Yet, the inability to keep a committment to your lifelong partner and to the Lord does speak volumes to your essential character. A candidate would have to be truly exceptional for me to vote for him/her after having admitted to an affair. |
moviesnob  | | posted 28-Aug-2008 8:06am |
I would be fine with this person staying in their elected position.
It's when they start lying to the public about it that trust starts to decay. |
bill   | | posted 28-Aug-2008 8:06am |
I like Frostbrand's answer. The trouble isn't that they had an affair, it's the hypocrisy and/or the lying about it.
I suspect most people feel this way. Have you heard about the new governor of New York (David A. Paterson who took office after Spitzer resigned due to a sex scandal). Shortly after taking office, he held a press conference announcing that he'd had affairs. Brilliant! I don't know much about him otherwise, but that impressed the hell out of me (not just honest but very shrewd). |
bill   |
Did the John Edwards affair announcement affect you? |
Iseult  | | posted 28-Aug-2008 8:23am |
I don't really care. |
| justjulie | | posted 28-Aug-2008 8:38am |
men and women are just that...men and women; not gods and goddesses |
cloudhugger    | | posted 28-Aug-2008 9:10am |
Well, golly...maybe they didn't swallow so it would be alright. |
cloudhugger    |
COCK! |
Enheduanna  | | (reply to bill) posted 28-Aug-2008 9:43am |
Not at all. I don't understand how anyone can be surprised when a man fails to keep it in his pants. It's the oldest story around. |
they   | | posted 28-Aug-2008 9:53am |
While it might say something about their character..... I don't believe it has ANYTHING to do with their politics.
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bill   |
I detect a note of sexism in what both of you said, or perhaps a double standard. You both mentioned males in particular.
If it was a woman having an affair would it be less OK? |
Enheduanna  | | (reply to bill) posted 28-Aug-2008 11:09am |
No, that would be fine, too. But let's face it: how often do you hear about female political officials having affairs? |
LindaH   | | (reply to bill) posted 28-Aug-2008 11:20am |
No. I just pictured the person with a political rank being a guy. I'd feel the same way about a woman having an affair. |
Frostbrand  | | (reply to bill) posted 28-Aug-2008 1:09pm |
> Have you
> heard about the new governor of New York (David
> A. Paterson who took office after Spitzer resigned
> due to a sex scandal). Shortly after taking office,
> he held a press conference announcing that he'd
> had affairs. Brilliant! I don't know much about
> him otherwise, but that impressed the hell out
> of me (not just honest but very shrewd).
More than that actually. He talked about how he and his wife had both done some things (people) while they were going through a rough patch, but they got back together and worked it out. It's like my own parent's relationship, only with a happy ending. |
Frostbrand  |
> No, that would be fine, too. But let's face it:
> how often do you hear about female political officials
> having affairs?
I don't remember her name, but there was a female Kennedy ofice holder in New York, a State Rep I think, who was married to a Cuomo, and she had to hold the "let me talk about what I did with my spouse standing right next to me" press conferences. I'm going off memory for this one though so don't quote me. |
bill   |
When I first heard about the announcement, I thought he was saying that he and his wife were swingers or something. |
moviesnob  | | (reply to bill) posted 28-Aug-2008 1:26pm |
o.O New survey idea! |
Enheduanna  |
That's just one case, though. How many men can you think of who've done that? |
| Cain | | posted 28-Aug-2008 4:58pm |
I wouldn't want them to keep their position.
I would hope that someone with high political ranking had the common sense to keep it in their pants. |
bill   | | (reply to moviesnob) posted 28-Aug-2008 5:52pm |
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Frostbrand  |
Too many. |
Enheduanna  |
Exactly. |
Matty    |
> Not at all. I don't understand how anyone can be surprised when a
> man fails to keep it in his pants. It's the oldest story around.
And who are the men fudging?...The 17 busiest women in America. If men are dogs, it's because they're fudging doges.
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Enheduanna  | | (reply to Matty) posted 29-Aug-2008 8:58am |
Jeez, that's a bit of an overreaction. Where did I ever say I think men are dogs? |
Matty    |
I apologize. I read "It's the oldest story around," as a preamble to a diatribe about men being no good. I was quite wrong for doing so.
I am a little sensitive to this topic because there are 2 women at work (1 of whom is married) who sometimes proposition me...and not playfully. These women are aware that I am very married, but somehow forget that every couple of months or so. I don't know; it's not that it's not tempting (1 of them has an enormous rack), but I so frequently hear how men are such philanderers that I get annoyed when the topic is addressed, and in this case overreact. |
they   | | (reply to Matty) posted 29-Aug-2008 12:38pm |
> If men are dogs, it's because
> they're fudging doges.
>
>
Some of them are fudging doges... You're right!
Like my ex................ what a little fudging dog he is.
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Matty    | | (reply to they) posted 29-Aug-2008 1:13pm |
My point is this, though. Everyone is poiting out what a scumbag Edwards is...and they should. Yet, I just saw Edwards' dog on a magazine cover talking about her courageous tale. Why is it ok for a woman to knowingly carry on an affair witha married man? Why doesn't Edwards' chippee share part of the blame? |
they   | | (reply to Matty) posted 29-Aug-2008 1:54pm |
Actually, I've always wondered why women tend to place more blame on the other woman than on their own husband when they are cheated on.
While that woman is an butt-hole for intruding on other peoples' lives the way she did..... she isn't the one who made a lifelong commitment to Mrs. Edwards. |
Matty    | | (reply to they) posted 29-Aug-2008 2:03pm |
then, our experiences are different. |
LindaH   | | (reply to they) posted 29-Aug-2008 5:54pm |
I'd say the woman is equally to blame. I think going after a married guy, knowing that he is married shows a complete lack of respect for his marriage and for his wife. You don't have to have any sort of commitment or relationship/friendship with a person for it to be inappropriate to disrespect them. I think it's disgusting to show that kind of disrespect to someone she might not even know.
I don't know why they would place more blame on the other woman either, though. As if her husband had nothing to do with it. |
LJD   | | posted 29-Aug-2008 11:01pm |
I do not feel they are capable. |
jettles   | | posted 29-Aug-2008 11:09pm |
it would completely depend on the situation but i would most likely be ok with it |
| rustygirl50 | | posted 31-Aug-2008 11:53am |
Once a cheater, always a cheater. If you cheat on your spouse. you'll cheat again and anywhere else, even the american people. Just look at Hilary and Bill Clinton. I would have divorce Bill. right off the bat. Hilary is one STUPID PERSON. |
Enheduanna  | | (reply to Matty) posted 31-Aug-2008 5:44pm |
I can totally understand how you would feel that way about it. |
| HMC35 | | posted 4-Sep-2008 12:16am |
This has always bugged my brain. A part of me feels that yes, it is bothersome, because it means that this person has lied in some form or fashion. That's not to say that lying over an affair could affect his/her political role, but there's still going to be a part of me saying "If they lied about THAT, what else are they hiding?"
I'm paranoid in that sense. I picked other. |
| icurok |
Not always. It depends what their social politics is. Several government ministers in the 90s had to quit because their extra-marital affairs were exposed at the same time as the party was trying to promote its "Back to Basics" campaign of traditional family values. In contrast, Robin Cook remained in his post as Foreign Secretary after leaving his wife and marrying one of his staff whom he had been having an affair with. |
Joanne   | | posted 8-Sep-2008 11:16am |
Get rid of him/her. Trust issue. Moral issue. General good guy issue. |
| diabeticdave |
When Billy had one in the white house all the other countries (especially Canada) were laughing at us because we made such a stupid big deal about it. Who cares what they do in private. The question is, and should always be. "HOW ARE THEY RUNNING THE COUNTRY"? The rest is their own business, just like anyone else. |
| starrpickle | | posted 23-Sep-2008 4:20pm |
I think it does show a lack of loyalty and truthfulness to ones commitment. To cheat on a spouse is to lie to a spouse in my opinion so I would be bothered by it to not hold office i'm undecided at this point |