| User | Comment |
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Melf     | | posted 22-Aug-2008 7:38pm |
Neither. Seriously, whatever. I'm tired of weighing up every part of my life with ethics. |
LindaH   | | (reply to Melf) posted 22-Aug-2008 8:00pm |
This survey made you feel like that? Or was that weighing every part of your life with ethics a side-thought? |
| LindaH | | posted 22-Aug-2008 8:03pm |
To answer my own survey, I honestly don't know. I'd forgive the accidental one for not cleaning up, because I wouldn't want to treat it as deliberate. I'd forgive the deliberate one, for doing the right thing and fixing his mess. So it's pretty much a toss-up to me. |
| JessicaWoman99 | | posted 22-Aug-2008 10:06pm |
Deliberately knocking over something and then decide to pick up after yourself is more criticism and disapproval and leaving it there is disapproval they are both the same as i see it |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to LindaH) posted 22-Aug-2008 10:09pm |
> To answer my own survey, I honestly don't know. I'd forgive the accidental
> one for not cleaning up, because I wouldn't want to treat it as deliberate.
> I'd forgive the deliberate one, for doing the right thing and fixing
> his mess. So it's pretty much a toss-up to me.
Gee I just feel the same way and lingering guilt will convict you and it feels deliberate to you |
| llamamama | | posted 22-Aug-2008 10:33pm |
Accidently and leaving it there.
Slob. |
| LJD | | posted 22-Aug-2008 11:05pm |
Both |
| LindaH | | posted 23-Aug-2008 12:01am |
I guess it's kind of a way of asking what's more important, the intent or the result. I'm kind of leaning toward the accidental slob, because they knew they knocked it over, but didn't do anything about it. It would be easier to forgive if they had no idea they knocked it over. At least the person who did it on purpose has the mind to fix what he messed up. No harm, no foul, right? |
bill  | | posted 23-Aug-2008 8:13am |
This is a classic LindaH survey! ...this is what I was trying imitate, an undercurrent of prankster, layered with ethics of responsibility.
I picked "leaving it there", because that sort of irresponsibility seems worse. Though, thinking about this sort of thing some more, a similar but different example might have caused me to pick the other side. For example:
Accidentally hitting your spouse and not apologizing.
Deliberately hitting your spouse, and then apologizing.
This is a classic battered-wife scenario where the husband gets drunk/angry and hits the wife. Then apologizes later and the pattern continues. That seems worse. |
| romkey | | posted 23-Aug-2008 8:59am |
Why is anything worth disapproval?
Why rank the amount of disapproval things are "worth"?
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Crayons  | | (reply to bill) posted 23-Aug-2008 9:30am |
What if he deserves it? |
| bill | | (reply to Crayons) posted 23-Aug-2008 9:44am |
all men deserve it |
| Melf | | (reply to LindaH) posted 23-Aug-2008 9:57am |
Most of your surveys make me feel like this. |
| LindaH | | (reply to bill, Melf) posted 23-Aug-2008 11:47am |
So I guess I could have put this in the ethics category? |
| Melf | | (reply to LindaH) posted 23-Aug-2008 11:49am |
I generally don't look at the category, but if you had (and I'd have noticed), I wouldn't be surprised. |
| LindaH | | (reply to Melf) posted 23-Aug-2008 11:51am |
You could always consider them hypothetical, then you might not feel like it's an aspect of your own life, but someone else's.  |
| Melf | | (reply to LindaH) posted 23-Aug-2008 12:04pm |
Ok then, 'I'm tired of weighing up every part of life with ethics.' |
| bill | | (reply to LindaH) posted 23-Aug-2008 12:09pm |
sure |
| aquawolfy | | posted 23-Aug-2008 3:55pm |
Dont wanna think |
| LindaH | | (reply to bill) posted 23-Aug-2008 8:15pm |
What did you mean by undercurrent of prankster? |
| bill | | (reply to LindaH) posted 23-Aug-2008 9:10pm |
If you question it, then perhaps I have it wrong. Deliberately knocking something over seems prankish to me, as do some of the situations in surveys you've made that are similar in style to this. I thought you had said in the past that you were prone to being like that too. Maybe prankster is the wrong word, though I can't think of a better one. |
| LindaH | | (reply to bill) posted 23-Aug-2008 9:16pm |
Oh. In this survey, I was thinking of someone angrily knocking something over, and then feeling stupid, and picking up after their self. But I guess pranking could work too. A person could knock something over whimsically, and then say 'just playing!' and then pick it up. I wouldn't even consider that worthy of any disapproval, unless you startle someone into peeing their pants.
Remember kids, if you are going to go hog wild and take all your excess energy out on the furniture, please pick up after yourself when you are done. 
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| bill | | (reply to LindaH) posted 23-Aug-2008 9:30pm |
Yeah, I guess some of these questions are really more about kids, but you don't tend to mention kids, so I apply them to adults.
I've knocked things over and wrecked things just for the hell of it a few times. Mostly, I picked it up after too. |
| LindaH | | (reply to bill) posted 23-Aug-2008 10:59pm |
I was just being silly. They aren't always about kids. |
| Gomezy3k | | posted 24-Aug-2008 12:14pm |
Neither... crap happens... |
| Gomezy3k | | (reply to Melf) posted 24-Aug-2008 12:15pm |
> Neither. Seriously, whatever. I'm tired of weighing up every part
> of my life with ethics.
Ethics? Who has ethics?? |
| Enheduanna | | posted 24-Aug-2008 2:44pm |
Accidentally knocking it over and leaving it there. Although if you were deliberately trying to destroy someone else's property, that would be pretty bad. So I guess it depends on what you're knocking over. |
| Cain | | posted 25-Aug-2008 10:53am |
Good question, and quite hard to answer, so I put my three year old in the frame.
If she had deliberately knocked something over, but decided off her own back to clear it up I'd be miffed, but pleased she had tidied after herself. If she accidently knocked something over and din't tidy it, I'd just be miffed. |
| Matty | | posted 27-Aug-2008 9:00am |
not picking up your mess |
| cloudhugger |
Who's doing the motivation and who's making the cat butt face? |
| LindaH |
Motivation? |
| kcthedog | | posted 5-Sep-2008 10:50pm |
 Accidentally knocking something over and leaving it there
I am guilty of this.
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| cloudhugger | | (reply to LindaH) posted 6-Sep-2008 7:36am |
Someone knocks something down on puporse, or doesn't pick something up on purpose...the key word here is ppurpose. There was a purpose for not doing what is seemingly the right thing.I'd say 9 times out of 10 the person had an inkling of a thought as to why they don't have to pick it up, or what would happen if...Puprose is motivation here. |
| LindaH |
Oh! Yep. That makes sense. If a person was in a hurry, (trying to catch a bus or something) and knocked something over on the way out the door, that's forgivable. They would get no disapproval from me. |
| diabeticdave | | posted 19-Sep-2008 11:40am |
I know this is a site that is for opinions, but it really gets to me to read some of the questions that are so out in left field that no one cares, and reading some of the opinions is even worse at times. This may get me kicked off of here or irritate some people, but oh well. Click on this site and Foamy the Squirrel will explain it in a way I couldn't. http://www.illwillpress.com/FOR33.html |
Joanne  | | posted 19-Sep-2008 11:58am |
The first is two choices, one bad and one good, the good cancelling out the bad, the best in you coming out. The second is one bad choice, you're a jerk.. So, #2. |
| LindaH |
If no one cared, no one would answer the surveys or ask the questions. This particular topic is meaningful for me, because I absolutely can't stand it when people treat an accident as though it was on purpose, just because it wasn't corrected. I also can't stand when people get uptight over a deliberate act even though it was rectified. People need to chill. |
| moviesnob |
This is the second survey you've posted this on . . . any more and you'll be spammydave! |
| diabeticdave | | (reply to moviesnob) posted 21-Sep-2008 12:27am |
3 |
| Wicksy | | posted 27-Sep-2008 2:01pm |
Both the same.
How boring of me |
| judgescratch | | posted 30-Sep-2008 8:06am |
Accidentally knocking something over and leaving it there
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| judgescratch | | posted 30-Sep-2008 8:09am |
Deliberately knocking something over, as in someone's reaction to a heated moment, and then picking it up to try to remedy some of the negativity, at least shows positive effort. Accidently knocking something over and then leaving it is just lazy. |
