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bill   | | posted 13-Aug-2008 10:21am |
Usually, but not always, see negligence. -- It can be generally defined as conduct that is culpable because it falls short of what a reasonable person would do to protect another individual from a foreseeable risks of harm. |
Galomorro   | | posted 13-Aug-2008 11:48am |
WTF? What kind of stupid question is this? Why on earth wouldn't it be okay to do this? |
Enheduanna  | | posted 13-Aug-2008 11:58am |
Yes. |
| moviesnob | | posted 13-Aug-2008 12:37pm |
Yes. I suppose if you see a dog about to run into a busy street it's ok to say "Hey dog, don't do that" but minding your own business is usually ok. |
| JessicaWoman99 | | posted 13-Aug-2008 1:20pm |
Not unless your doing something illegal than it is alright |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to Galomorro) posted 13-Aug-2008 1:22pm |
> WTF? What kind of stupid question is this? Why on earth wouldn't it
> be okay to do this?
Linda H. is doing some thinking this week it appears! |
| Galomorro |
Maybe I just didn't understand the question properly. It didn't SAY that there was someone needing help along the way. I actually have stopped sometimes to help old people carry stuff, etc. when walking along minding my own bizness and I normally would do so. |
Melf  | | posted 13-Aug-2008 4:49pm |
Yes. I don't like obligation. |
| LJD | | posted 13-Aug-2008 7:20pm |
I will assume most people walk along, minding their own business. But, the big BUT is, do they mind their own business when someone is in need of help? The obvious answer would be, to get help for a person that is crying for help, needs help...therefore you would not be minding only your business. |
cerealkiller  | | posted 13-Aug-2008 7:34pm |
Mmm, but walk along where? What if I want to walk along naked not bothering anyone? Is that okay? |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to Galomorro) posted 13-Aug-2008 7:54pm |
> Maybe I just didn't understand the question properly. It didn't SAY
> that there was someone needing help along the way. I actually have
> stopped sometimes to help old people carry stuff, etc. when walking
> along minding my own bizness and I normally would do so.
Yes i would have the same thing happen to me if I were out walking , I would probably stop to help somebody and i think
that I have stopped to help somebody before or you will find people along the way to talk with
but anyway! talk later ok and take care |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to LJD) posted 13-Aug-2008 8:01pm |
> I will assume most people walk along, minding their own business.
> But, the big BUT is, do they mind their own business when someone
> is in need of help? The obvious answer would be, to get help for
> a person that is crying for help, needs help...therefore you would
> not be minding only your business.
Oh Jean you reminded me of those news stories that we see most all of the time and yes Jean some people really do mind their own business when a purse snatcher tries to grab your purse and they just watched as this one woman she was fighting this purse snatcher he was dragging her along the ground while onlookers just stood by and stared and did
nothing to help this woman that one survey that i did? This happened in downtown Denver back so long ago and yes perhaps there are some people that would step in to help brave enough to do something |
| LJD |
There are some frightening stories where people stand by and do not come to the aid of a person that needs help. I remember a story where a man was afraid to help a little girl that was hanging by her finger in a playground. A man standing nearby said he did nothing for fear of a lawsuit. He did call for help, but did not assist in physically helping the child.
Another case 30 or 40 years ago. A young woman was murdered while 42 people heard her screams. No one helped her, or if I can remember, didn't even call the police. If one of those 42 people had called the police right away, or assisted in any way, she may have lived. This was in New York.
I know today many people would be afraid to help for fear of lawsuits. I heard a nurse once say that. The legal system has become tainted by greedy lawyers. I did hear of a brave man that came to the rescue of a woman being stabbed by a crazed man at a bustop. If the man had not interfered, she would have become a statistic....he was a hero. |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to LJD) posted 14-Aug-2008 12:02am |
> There are some frightening stories where people stand by and do not
> come to the aid of a person that needs help. I remember a story where
> a man was afraid to help a little girl that was hanging by her finger
> in a playground. A man standing nearby said he did nothing for fear
> of a lawsuit. He did call for help, but did not assist in physically
> helping the child.
>
> Another case 30 or 40 years ago. A young woman was murdered while
> 42 people heard her screams. No one helped her, or if I can remember,
> didn't even call the police. If one of those 42 people had called
> the police right away, or assisted in any way, she may have lived.
> This was in New York.
>
> I know today many people would be afraid to help for fear of lawsuits.
> I heard a nurse once say that. The legal system has become tainted
> by greedy lawyers. I did hear of a brave man that came to the rescue
> of a woman being stabbed by a crazed man at a bustop. If the man
> had not interfered, she would have become a statistic....he was a
> hero.
Yes you just said it for fear of a lawsuit and why they do not jump in to help oh Jean this is just awful! and Lawyers they are cashing in on lawsuits , my case was work related and i did collect on that a cool $4,000.00 more money than i ever did see all because I slipped and fell on some ice getting out of my car at work , I was unconscious after my head hit the ground and knocked me out cold and I come to and in the housekeeping department
I was cleaning condos and making some real good money and all was going good for me until this accident , now i am on Social Security Disability and working just part time is all I really can do for now and hoping for some kind of work at home one of these days or whenever. |
| Pomeranian | | posted 14-Aug-2008 2:09am |
It's not ok to do this in the middle of a freeway. |
| Kristal_Rose | | posted 14-Aug-2008 4:42am |
That would make for a pretty dry heartless world, not striking up cheerful conversation at times.
In times of trouble you should at least get a glance, check to see if someone wants help.
As far as actual bothering goes, some people may need to be bothered before they become a greater burden on the rest of us. |
| Kristal_Rose | | (reply to LJD) posted 14-Aug-2008 5:16am |
Probably the most sensible thing to do is come to the defense of a person, but let the police deal with tracking muggers and thieves. In a crowd of onlookers, it should only take one person to step in and ask for support of all present. That's one thing I relearned in Alaska, that the world is one family tribe.
~
I was just hearing interesting history about the days when natives would rape and abduct women. Apparently about a third of them, given the chance to return, preferred to become natives. One funny account, which supposedly wasn't too uncommon, was of a woman being abducted who wrote later about being miffed about her rescue party which got within yards of the abductors, but wouldn't bother to cross the river, a river the lame, elderly, women, and children natives had no problem crossing.
One interesting part of the history was how it would get rewritten. At one time the women were tough and often escaped with murderous vengeance, but a century later it became fashionabe to reportray them as helpless puritans with the men doing all the rescuing. The lecture then tied that into the Jesica Lynch story, where Iraqui doctors had actually attempted to return her earlier and she was in decent care, but it came out in the press here as a story of rape and heroic rescue. I realized those stories were fake the moment they showed up in the news. It took months before the truth got out here, and most people probably never did here the truth. It's a bit like when Reagan secretly paid off for the hostage release, while making a campaign ordeal of talking tough and not negotiating. What get's me is that when these things are finally uncovered, few even care.
~
I'm sure it will come up eventually, so I might as well bring it up now. I was just up in Alaska to give the eulogy for my son's funeral and meet his wifes tribe. The elders were an immense help. It sounds like he remained sacrificially devoted while she became controlling, taunting, and neglectful, so he shot himself, figuring he lost all he cared for anyhow. People at the service said he was like their minister friend, compassionately listening. Our conversations were spiritual and political, not physically personal. Not until I came up there did I know how much he had followed in my footsteps. |
| Cain | | posted 14-Aug-2008 5:23am |
On an average day, probably. On the day when a little old lady is being mugged, no. |
| cloudhugger | | posted 14-Aug-2008 8:19am |
I do not understand the question. So I guess it's best ok to keep walking minding my own business. Unless I'm bothering someone, than it wouldn't be ok. |
| LJD |
I'm sorry to hear about your accident, it sounds like you deserved more than $4,000...especially since you had lasting damage. Obviously, there are those lawsuits that are justifiable.
Once when I went into the hospital for a simple repair, through the vaginal area, I woke up with bags of blood hanging over me. I had no idea why...accepted that doctors knew what they were doing. I NEVER felt the same after that transfusion, never felt up to par. Several years later while taking a class ran by a Stanford Hospital surgical nurse, I happened to tell her my story and the blood transfusion. She said the doctor made a mistake, had cut one of my main arteries...negligence. I was furious...but the time had lapsed. I understood I could have possibly sued...and I would have if I had investigated...but I was a trusting soul. I feel doctors are paid not to make these kind of mistakes, they're paid dearly. This is but just another reason I dislike doctors. |
| LJD |
Kristal Rose, my heartfelt sympathies to you in the loss of your son, I'm so sorry. You'll see your son, again, one day.
Take care of yourself, and God bless you. |
| jettles | | posted 14-Aug-2008 10:16am |
sure, i think so. the only time i ever acknowledge anything when wandering around is if there is an emergency or problem occuring. |
| jettles |
my thoughts are with you and your son!! the pain of losing a family member is deep............ let alone a child!! take care of yourself! |
| Lahdee |
I think many people would be 'bothered' seeing a naked person waslking around... Unless you're in Berkeley. lol |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to LJD) posted 14-Aug-2008 2:26pm |
> I'm sorry to hear about your accident, it sounds like you deserved
> more than $4,000...especially since you had lasting damage. Obviously,
> there are those lawsuits that are justifiable.
>
> Once when I went into the hospital for a simple repair, through the
> vaginal area, I woke up with bags of blood hanging over me. I had
> no idea why...accepted that doctors knew what they were doing. I
> NEVER felt the same after that transfusion, never felt up to par.
> Several years later while taking a class ran by a Stanford Hospital
> surgical nurse, I happened to tell her my story and the blood transfusion.
> She said the doctor made a mistake, had cut one of my main arteries...negligence.
> I was furious...but the time had lapsed. I understood I could have
> possibly sued...and I would have if I had investigated...but I was
> a trusting soul. I feel doctors are paid not to make these kind of
> mistakes, they're paid dearly. This is but just another reason I
> dislike doctors.
Wow scary Jean! just goes to show that no we cannot put our trust in anybody doctors are humans and humans do make mistakes and lately i have heard about robots in the O.R. room that do the surgery in some hospitals and blood transfusions do not sound like fun at all no no and that is sad what happened to you and yes it is ok to sue somebody if we really had to which is not pleasant for any Christians to do is file law suits.
Doctors are there and we need them every so often whether we dislike them or not and in the Bible Luke was a physician? |
| LJD |
Of course, physicians have a place in the world. I appreciate those that sincerely care about the patient, instead of just the almighty buck. In some fields, they are in greed need...but in disease no. There are good ones, and there are bad ones. The bad ones need to be expelled from the profession. I am not a sue happy person, never have been, but years later I could have sued I was told, but I didn't. Negligent doctors need to brought before their peers and expelled, BUT they are not, and I would expect this is why lawsuits.. but the greedy lawyers took advantage of peoples misery, and legitimate suits, and created the trivial suits. |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to LJD) posted 14-Aug-2008 9:00pm |
Oh yes the good and the bad in all of them and i love my doctors here in town they are the finest around , but going to the E.R. in another county was pitiful they were horrible doctors red necks i call them and they accuse me of wanting to get drugs and I was really sick and not feeling good and these doctors treat me like some criminal over in Moffatt county and I live in Grand County they were disgusting slime of the earth Jean?
I was going over to Moffatt county for my teeth and to have some work done on my teeth and i stayed with friends over there and it is a long 98 mile drive from here and i was so sick and just not feeling all that well while I was over there. |
| LJD |
I rarely go to the doctor's, but I do have one. I have an acupuncturist. I also, but rarely go to a clinic that know their stuff. The problem is the insurance companies won't pay for real doctors (holistic) they only want to pay for the AMA/pharmaceutical doctors. All any doctor wants to do is pass out drugs. I am hoping in the near future people will start searching out natural medicine.
I hope you start feeling better. |
| Kristal_Rose | | (reply to jettles) posted 15-Aug-2008 6:05pm |
Thanks. People prepare themselves to accept the passing of their parents. This feels like one of those things which wouldn't have happened if only we knew it were brewing. Part of the problem here I think was him adopting my pacifist values. Most anyone else would have argued before turning in on themselves instead. |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to LJD) posted 16-Aug-2008 2:22am |
> I rarely go to the doctor's, but I do have one. I have an acupuncturist.
> I also, but rarely go to a clinic that know their stuff. The problem
> is the insurance companies won't pay for real doctors (holistic) they
> only want to pay for the AMA/pharmaceutical doctors. All any doctor
> wants to do is pass out drugs. I am hoping in the near future people
> will start searching out natural medicine.
>
> I hope you start feeling better.
Oh me to and thanks!
my insurance will pay for all my prescriptions Jean i have Medicare drug coverage and because I am on Social Security my doctor and hospital bills get paid and yes! i have tried natural medicines before and they are ok and I have no problems with these. |
| LJD |
JessicaWoman, the reason I avoid prescribed drugs, is somehow I feel we lose complete control of our body chemistry. I feel living as simply as possible is the best way. Good diet, light exercise, sleep, love of family, and prayer is the best medicine of all. |
LindaH  | | (reply to LJD) posted 16-Aug-2008 11:55am |
Sometimes body chemistry is the problem that needs fixed. prescription drugs can be good for that. |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to LJD) posted 16-Aug-2008 4:52pm |
> JessicaWoman, the reason I avoid prescribed drugs, is somehow I feel
> we lose complete control of our body chemistry. I feel living as
> simply as possible is the best way. Good diet, light exercise, sleep,
> love of family, and prayer is the best medicine of all.
Yes you are right how very true love of family is so important! and like i was telling John CD , just maybe and maybe i will call up my mom and dad in Florida and see how everything is going for them and to see how my sister is doing , there are 3 of us Jean all sisters one back home in Connecticut she is married the 4th time her 4 marriage and she seems happy right now plus my other sibling in Florida she has not been doing all that good she has many mental
problems and i told John about her , plus John his wife she had surgery on her eye and John is not doing all that well
keep him in prayer he is such a sweet person bless his heart. This Colorado weather has gone crazy we are getting
snow and rain out here and you take care. |
gambler  | | posted 16-Aug-2008 5:38pm |
Yes |
| LJD | | (reply to LindaH) posted 16-Aug-2008 9:49pm |
I believe in the more natural approach. The problem with prescription drugs, they leave too many "side effects". |
| LindaH | | (reply to LJD) posted 16-Aug-2008 10:14pm |
Sometimes the side effects are worth it, though |
| kcthedog | | posted 18-Aug-2008 12:44am |
 Yes. Something about how the question was asked that leads me to believe this is a trick question. What is the punch line? |
| LindaH | | (reply to kcthedog) posted 18-Aug-2008 1:01am |
No trick, just seeing if people would catch the word 'always' and answer based on that. |
| kcthedog | | (reply to LindaH) posted 18-Aug-2008 1:05am |
So how'd I do? |
| LindaH | | (reply to LindaH) posted 18-Aug-2008 1:15am |
There wasn't any trick or test. I was just wanting to see if anyone would answer with 'always' in mind. Bill did. |
| LindaH | | (reply to kcthedog) posted 18-Aug-2008 1:15am |
oops. i replied to myself. see my reply to myself. It was meant for you. |
| kcthedog | | (reply to LindaH) posted 18-Aug-2008 10:06pm |
See it was a trick question! |
