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  Do you have any suggestions on what people should do about the oil crisis?

Watch the 1 - 8 parts of the short videos. A must see, if you're interested in the fuel crisis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbakN7SLdbk

Please write your own ideas on what the average citizen can do, personally, or as a group, to turn around this crisis. Defend themselves against oil giants, and their control. Or can they? What are your thoughts, your ideas, offer solutions.

VotesAnswer
4Be persistent in telling your Congress to drill for oil in our territories
3Break up the oil monopoly
9Perfect a new, inexpensive source of fuel, not to rely on foreign sources
10Do you have other suggestions?

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romkey Survey Central Gold SubscriberBronze Star Survey CreatorSurvey Qualifier
posted 17-Jul-2008 6:52pm  

As I suggested in qual, there's no way I'm watching an hour of you-tube videos...

Getting away from oil would solve several problems for the US at once... being in a situation where we're consistently pumping money into countries whose populations generally want to kill us is a bad situation.
Enheduanna Survey Central Subscriber
posted 17-Jul-2008 7:31pm  

Drive less. Encourage the development of alternative sources of energy. Stop buying and using so much plastic.
It's not about foreign sources; it's about oil dependence, regardless of where it comes from.
Crayons Triple Gold Star Survey CreatorGold Qualifier
posted 17-Jul-2008 7:57pm  

Ride a bike?
dab Survey Central Gold SubscriberSurvey Qualifier
posted 17-Jul-2008 9:00pm  

An hour of YouTube? Not likely.

Generally I think that getting the government out of the way is almost always a good thing, and this situation is no different. Encouraging the government to get out of the way of drilling, allow companies to build powerplants and refineries, end the subsidization of gas and ethanol, and so on.

Unless you're in a position to build a coal to oil plant or a nuclear power plant or invent a superior battery, I don't think most individuals are really in a position to do anything that'll make a difference in the big picture. However, if you can do something small and feel good about it, go for it.
they Survey Central SubscriberBronze Star Survey Creator
posted 17-Jul-2008 11:54pm  

I think it's obvious we should have started looking at other options long ago.

I'm not really in the mood for watching videos right now.. maybe later.
Psychologo Bronze Star Survey Creator
posted 18-Jul-2008 12:58am  

Ride a bike
LindaH Gold Star Survey CreatorSurvey Qualifier
posted 18-Jul-2008 1:31am  

Rearrange our schedules and life to minimize the amount of driving.
LJD Bronze Star Survey CreatorGold Qualifier
posted 18-Jul-2008 1:51am  

The good thing about the videos, they are each only I believe 7 minutes long. When I first watched them, I watched a couple then came back later and watched another and so on. I didn't sit at one sitting to watch them. They are informative. There are tips on how to drive to make gasoline go further. But, the tapes say more than you think. It's also, about the war, there is a bigger picture to the whole issue of oil.
bill Survey Central Gold SubscriberTriple Gold Star Survey Creator
posted 18-Jul-2008 7:40am  

I'm skeptical of conspiracy theories. I've never heard of this guy. Him being a Baptist minister makes my more doubtful of his assertions. I watched some of the first (linked) video. It feels like a waste of my time to watch more of it. I wish there was a summary of what he's saying. He seems to repeat himself and not really back up some of what he keeps repeating "$1.50 gas!".

I think the whole idea that we need to do something about the "oil crisis" is kind of wrong-minded. I think the problem will basically take care of itself. What people should do is do what they always do. You are a consumer of energy. Find ways that you can get energy for the best prices you can. That may mean switching to other sources, if available. Also, if you can't afford it, use less of it. I know, change it hard, but lets try.

I don't think the government is responsible for the price of fuel. I don't like it when people say this or imply it. The price is determined by the market (supply/demand). The price has gone up because demand has gone up. What the government can do is try protect our environment by blocking drilling for oil in areas where the ecosystem could easily be damaged (Alaska wildlife preserves and off-shore areas). Also, I think the government can help stimulate research and development of alternative energies. As I understand it, the government is already doing these things. But, perhaps, it could do more. Though, I think we should be careful because often government involvement messes things up. Innovation can and will occur on its own. The government's involvement in corn ethanol is highly suspect, in my opinion.
Matty Survey Central SubscriberGold Star Survey CreatorGold Qualifier
posted 18-Jul-2008 7:42am  

I would like to find/harness different energy sources.
Cain
posted 18-Jul-2008 10:18am  

Slightly off the point, but my partner often asks me what surveys I've answered, and when I asked him 'Do you have any suggestions on what people should do about the oil crises?', he replied 'Who posted that survey? Mr Bush?!'.

Which I thought was quite amusing.

Aaaaanyway.
Iseult Silver Star Survey Creator
posted 18-Jul-2008 10:39am  

Start using less oil.
cloudhugger Survey Central Gold SubscriberSilver Star Survey CreatorSurvey Qualifier
posted 18-Jul-2008 11:27am  

Don't you have any other suggestions? *laughing out loud*
#1
and I mean NUMBER 1: impeach the president for treason and high crimes.( *smile* )See if that doesn't drop it a nickel or two.

I say invest the money and time into wind and solar. They seem innocent enough. (I cracked up when some citizens in Iowa I think doged about their view being ruined by solar wind fans, yeah, those scuk to look at compared to a nuclear plant) Water dams seem to have it's share of trouble giving.

Stop the drilling. I would imagine the earth feels the drilling for oil like humans get bit by mosquitos. Fudging annoying, painful and drains you after a while. Fudge these men who have to dig dig, suck and dig suck and dig.
Stop drilling, for fudge's sake.

And perfecting a fuel that is inexpensive..? I can guarentee that will take years to do. we have the technology. We do. I know a guy in Michigan that made something in his garage that can power his house for nothing. It's a secret, people die for information like that.
Cheap or free electricity was available in the 20's, the 40's...you don't read about that in the history books. You read about the guy that invented elecric that they can put a price on, and created a mega nation wide company. (Edison) Lots of money there, the guy that had the idea for free electic had death threats against himself and his family.
We have the technology, lets work on wind and solar. I'd love to see solar get it's time. And hope a bunch of ignorant stupid jerks don't screw that up by trashing the earth to make a few bucks at it.
cloudhugger Survey Central Gold SubscriberSilver Star Survey CreatorSurvey Qualifier
(reply to Cain) posted 18-Jul-2008 11:31am  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA*whew*grin*
aquawolfy Gold Star Survey Creator
posted 18-Jul-2008 5:59pm  

No, get a new president..... that and a time machine....
LJD Bronze Star Survey CreatorGold Qualifier
(reply to bill) posted 18-Jul-2008 6:10pm  

Bill, it's around the 4th video, you get to the nitty gritty of his message.
bill Survey Central Gold SubscriberTriple Gold Star Survey Creator
(reply to LJD) posted 18-Jul-2008 6:58pm  

Is there a webpage that I can read which has it written down?
JessicaWoman99 Gold Star Survey Creator
posted 18-Jul-2008 8:08pm  

Yes I suggest we drill for oil in our backyards and please! do not tell Bush about our plans
JessicaWoman99 Gold Star Survey Creator
(reply to Crayons) posted 18-Jul-2008 8:10pm  

> Ride a bike?

150 miles on a bicycle ? Yikes
southernyankee
posted 18-Jul-2008 11:20pm  

Dos:
-- drive smaller car
-- drive less
-- drive 60 - 65 mph
-- carpool
-- leave your house or work when theres less traffic
-- Be persistent in telling your Congress to drill for oil in our territories,
(if you only care about oil prices today, not the enviornment, saving oil for when we REALLY need it)

don'ts:
-- any of these ideas

LJD Bronze Star Survey CreatorGold Qualifier
(reply to bill) posted 19-Jul-2008 1:31am  

I'll try to find if there is a written page on these videos. I organized a conference recently on this subject along with the NAU. There is a book spoken of in one of the videos, called, the Confessions of an Economic Hitman. by John Perkins. My conference speaker read the book...couldn't put it down....a MUST READ. It's true, regarding oil, war, the world elitists.
jindalmeenakshi9 New User
posted 19-Jul-2008 2:24am  

Alternate Fuels should be encouraged to use - Solar energy , Bio-fuels- we can get something out of nothing or garbage . Automotive industries should be given more tax reliefs on developing the Hybrids & Electric vehicles to take the pressure away from Gasoline and Diesel GAS GUZZLERS . Public Transportation should be encouraged and Private vehicles should be penalized ( or heavily taxed ) to use in Peak traffic hours..in all GLOBAL CITIES around the world .....this is the time to act or Perish in next 4~5 decades , we will be sailing boats in water in rivers and canals or STEAMING SHIPS to travel across nations
Cain
(reply to cloudhugger) posted 19-Jul-2008 5:48am  

I just like the idea that he's given up on all his advisors, and has started asking the public what to do instead........
Survey Central could end up ruling the world!!
Pomeranian Bronze Star Survey Creator
posted 19-Jul-2008 7:01am  

the average citizen, personally, or as a group, can do JACK SQUAT *nothing*.
Pomeranian Bronze Star Survey Creator
(reply to LJD) posted 19-Jul-2008 7:02am  

whatever your cause is, it's a LOST CAUSE. Your God will not save you.
bill Survey Central Gold SubscriberTriple Gold Star Survey Creator
(reply to LJD) posted 19-Jul-2008 7:04am  

Are you skeptical of what this guy is saying at all? Why believe him?
LJD Bronze Star Survey CreatorGold Qualifier
(reply to Pomeranian) posted 19-Jul-2008 9:06am  

God helps those that help themselves. We have a tough road ahead of us, but in the end we'll win.....
LJD Bronze Star Survey CreatorGold Qualifier
(reply to bill) posted 19-Jul-2008 9:17am  

Bill, why not? As, the Bible says Bill, for those that can see and hear. Heed, the warning signs... The world elitists want to control the necessities of life. Fuel, food, shelter, clothing, self protection.

Another thought, cram people into cities, into cubicles, where they have less control over their lives. I was watching, early this morning about the D.C. plan on gun control. People are at the mercy of the criminal element. There were many callers, most of them the average law abiding citizen, quoting the Constitution, and saying the courts are taking their rights to protect themselves. The mayor of this city was on the program, saying people have to understand that there are different laws for different folks, i.e. rural, and urban. So, the folks that live in the city, more apt for crime against them, have their gun rights taken away. What is a resident to do? I feel sorry for the law abiding citizens in those areas.
LindaH Gold Star Survey CreatorSurvey Qualifier
posted 19-Jul-2008 12:33pm  

God helps those that help themselves. <---------- not true
LindaH Gold Star Survey CreatorSurvey Qualifier
posted 19-Jul-2008 12:39pm  

I think residential zones that are too big need a few commercial zones tucked in. It's silly some people have to drive 5 miles to go to the store.
cloudhugger Survey Central Gold SubscriberSilver Star Survey CreatorSurvey Qualifier
(reply to Cain) posted 19-Jul-2008 2:01pm  

Indeed. We be da people.
southernyankee
(reply to LJD) posted 19-Jul-2008 2:21pm  

"I was watching, early this morning about the D.C. plan on gun control."

So then whatever happened to state's rights. It wasn't the federal government taking gun rights away. It was a state government. (if you want to count DC a state).
dab Survey Central Gold SubscriberSurvey Qualifier
(reply to southernyankee) posted 19-Jul-2008 7:50pm  

If you're asking the question for real, there are three answers. The first answer is that the civil war ended states rights. Second, the 14th amendment applies constitutional limits to state governments as well as federal. And finally, DC is not a state, it's run by the federal government and so the constitution ought to apply.

Oh, and I'll add a fourth answer that I've never seen anyone else bring up. If you actually look at the wording of the 2nd amendment, it's not like the 1st. The first is very clearly a limitation on the power of congress, "congress shall make no law...". The 2nd amendment says, "... shall not be infringed". Infringed by whom, one might ask? Well, you could easily make an argument that it is again Congress who is so limited but that's not what it says. It says, "shall not be infringed" period. So I think a fairly straightforward reading of the law clearly puts forth a requirement that the federal government use its power to make sure that no-one anywhere within the range of its power infringes on this right of the people. So on this issue, even without the 14th amendment, the states are overridden. Or would be if the law was actually enforced as written.
romkey Survey Central Gold SubscriberBronze Star Survey CreatorSurvey Qualifier
(reply to LJD) posted 19-Jul-2008 11:08pm  

I seem to have missed the bit of the bible about the world elitists... or are they the ones attempting to control things in the name of religion?
LJD Bronze Star Survey CreatorGold Qualifier
(reply to southernyankee) posted 20-Jul-2008 8:22am  

States rights are utmost important. Any government, from Federal, State, Local, have to be kept in check. I say anytime, the government tries to take away the rights for us to protect ourselves, it is wrong. Why should innocent, law abiding citizens have their rights taken away because of some irresponsible peoples actions, or the crime element? During the program in question, I could feel the angst of the men calling in, they were feeling helpless.....it's not supposed to be that way. It's common sense, that there are not enough police to cover all the crime, people have to have the right to protect their lives, and property.
LJD Bronze Star Survey CreatorGold Qualifier
(reply to romkey) posted 20-Jul-2008 8:34am  

What is religion to you? There are those that feel that sex is a religion. Or that education is a religion. Some people worship material things, or drugs, or whatever. What is religion to you?

southernyankee
(reply to LJD) posted 20-Jul-2008 10:35am  

I think you've missed the point of my post.

You're a state's rights person, right? You don't want the federal government interfering with what states do. Well, it wasn't the federal government that banned guns in DC. It was the local government. It wasn't until the federal SC stepped in to save gun rights, ie the feds interfering what the states do.

I am simply asking what do you care about more, gun rights or state rights. You can't have it both ways. It also debunks your one-government theory, where the UN is trying to boss around countries, and the feds are trying to boss around little states.
romkey Survey Central Gold SubscriberBronze Star Survey CreatorSurvey Qualifier
(reply to LJD) posted 20-Jul-2008 10:50am  

Religion is the organized worship of a deity. The only world elitists I'm aware of are the ones who organize the religions and mediate access to God.
LindaH Gold Star Survey CreatorSurvey Qualifier
(reply to LJD) posted 20-Jul-2008 12:37pm  

> Why should innocent, law abiding
> citizens have their rights taken away because
> of some irresponsible peoples actions, or the
> crime element?

This is how I feel about drugs and car registration.
LindaH Gold Star Survey CreatorSurvey Qualifier
(reply to LJD) posted 20-Jul-2008 12:39pm  

Some people don't worship anything at all.
How do you associate sex, education, material things, and drugs with 'worshipping' or 'religion'? You mead addictions and obsessions?
LJD Bronze Star Survey CreatorGold Qualifier
(reply to southernyankee) posted 20-Jul-2008 2:00pm  

I absolutely can have it "both ways". I say no one is going to take away my right to protect myself....Federal, State or Local. The only way they can do that, and are doing is through too much regulation, making it more difficult for people to buy and own arms. The government is trying to protect itself, not the people. Once they take these rights from the people, they're lost forever. The people will be at the mercy of a tyrannical government, and the criminal element who won't care.

I would hope the U.S. would GET OUT of the U.N. We pay for the bulk, and no one likes us. The Beast wants control over the world. Just as they wanted control over our worlds waters....The L.O.S.T. Treaty....look it up.

I want a decentralized government....less government, more individual responsibility. Government should have specific duties....those against invasion by other countries, illegal activities, and immorality.
LJD Bronze Star Survey CreatorGold Qualifier
(reply to romkey) posted 20-Jul-2008 2:09pm  

Faith is an individual thing to me, it is a relationship with our creator. God approved of only two out of the seven churches at that time. The two he approved are those that taught the truth. Same as today, many of the churches are not teaching the entire truth. Such as the apple in the Book of Genius. They soft soap, candy coat things. I do not go to church for these reasons. I want the meat of the Word. However, I do miss convening with people of faith. I study by myself, and a couple of churches on the air. They know their stuff.

What is it about religion that you don't like? What are you fearful of?
LJD Bronze Star Survey CreatorGold Qualifier
(reply to LindaH) posted 20-Jul-2008 2:13pm  

Why drugs, and car registration?
LindaH Gold Star Survey CreatorSurvey Qualifier
(reply to LJD) posted 20-Jul-2008 2:33pm  

Responsible drug users can't legally use, because of all the problems irresponsible users have (and still do) cause. We have to register our cars to hold irresponsible drivers accountable when they screw up. If all drug users were responsible, we wouldn't need drug laws. If all drivers were responsible, we wouldn't need to register our cars.
Melf Survey Central SubscriberBronze Star Survey CreatorGold Qualifier
(reply to LJD) posted 20-Jul-2008 2:52pm  


> and no one likes us.

Yup.

LJD Bronze Star Survey CreatorGold Qualifier
(reply to LindaH) posted 20-Jul-2008 3:23pm  

Religion is the worship of God. Many times, those that do not believe in God, their "worship" is sex, drugs, material things, power.
LindaH Gold Star Survey CreatorSurvey Qualifier
(reply to LJD) posted 20-Jul-2008 3:25pm  

That is, if they are "worshiping" anything at all. You'd probably have to redefine "worship" to call what these people are doing "worshiping" sex, drugs and material things.
LJD Bronze Star Survey CreatorGold Qualifier
(reply to LindaH) posted 20-Jul-2008 3:25pm  

I agree for the most part, but why do people have the need to take drugs? I've never figured that out.
LJD Bronze Star Survey CreatorGold Qualifier
(reply to LindaH) posted 20-Jul-2008 3:26pm  

Whatever makes them feel good, without regard to the consequences.
LindaH Gold Star Survey CreatorSurvey Qualifier
(reply to LJD) posted 20-Jul-2008 3:37pm  

Several reasons. Not just purely recreational. Here's some reasons, involving different drugs:

1) Simply for the feeling. It feels good to be able to forget your troubles and relax, especially if you have a hard time doing that. A means of escape. A way to calm your mind, especially if there's excessive chatter (running thoughts) in your head. They calm the mind.
2) To be social. Social anxieties can be relieved by some drugs. Some people have too much inhibition, and drugs relieve that.
3) To stay awake without using a substance that makes you continually have to run to the restroom.
4) To expand their understanding of things. Some drugs break apart "mental blocks" that keep people from conceptualizing some things.

Those are just a few specific reasons, that aren't purely "recreational"
LindaH Gold Star Survey CreatorSurvey Qualifier
(reply to LJD) posted 20-Jul-2008 3:39pm  

I wouldn't call that worship. If someone totally lived their lives without regard to consequences, would you call everything they are doing worshiping?
LJD Bronze Star Survey CreatorGold Qualifier
(reply to LindaH) posted 21-Jul-2008 2:14am  

I suppose it's no different than eating a junk food for comfort food? I've never taken a recreational drug, and refuse prescribed drugs, unless absolutely necessary, which is rare. I saw a program recently about musicians, that have used drugs to keep up the pace, rigorous schedules. None of this is right....it means people are pushing themselves, physically, emotionally, mentally beyond what they can really handle.
LJD Bronze Star Survey CreatorGold Qualifier
(reply to LindaH) posted 21-Jul-2008 2:16am  

I'd call them selfish.
Pomeranian Bronze Star Survey Creator
(reply to LJD) posted 21-Jul-2008 3:11am  

what will you win?
LJD Bronze Star Survey CreatorGold Qualifier
(reply to Pomeranian) posted 21-Jul-2008 8:40am  

Freedom to live in a moral, peaceful society.
southernyankee
(reply to LJD) posted 21-Jul-2008 9:01pm  

Well, I am not disagreeing with you on the 2nd amendment. Even though I've never owned a gun myself, I do believe that its a right others should have out of principle.

But thats really beside the point of what I am talking about. You say that you want a decentalized government, but in this case it was the feds who had to step in to save the 2nd amendment because it was a local government interferring. So in other words, you only support decentralized local control when it suits your beliefs, but when the feds agree with you, you no longer care about state rights.


"Government should have specific duties....those against invasion by other countries, illegal activities, and immorality."

But whose morality? By definition, EVERY law EVER made legislates morality. If someone tells you that you have to recycle, thats someone's morality being pushed on you. When the law says you have to obey the speed limit or wear a safty belt, thats someone else legilating their morality on you.
LJD Bronze Star Survey CreatorGold Qualifier
(reply to southernyankee) posted 21-Jul-2008 11:48pm  

There is immorality, and there is immorality. So there are absolutes.

We could be smothered to death by laws, frivolous laws I mean. There is a need to obey speed limits, for the safety of the people, that's a given. As far as seat belts, they're to protect the insurance companies, and people. For many years, there were no seat belts. Of course, seat belts at times can help, and other times, they can be a hindrance. It's also a law that they know people may or may not adhere to...and that means more fines, monies in the public coffer.

Years ago, they had obscenity law, they repealed it. And look at the decay of our society. We NEED obscenity laws to protect us from others. Now you may ask, where does one persons rights outweigh another's? What is the betterment for all concerned? God has absolutes.
southernyankee
(reply to LJD) posted 22-Jul-2008 8:19pm  

I happen to watch a good number of such obscene shows, which otherwise would not existed had we had the obscenity laws on the books. I don't think you'll be convincing me on that issue anytime soon.


"God has absolutes."

Yes, but who is to say that God would agree with you on everything? That is the number one mistake people make (both liberals and conservatives), everybody wants more "God" in government because they all believe that God agrees with them and not the other guy. Obviously, someone has to be wrong.
LJD Bronze Star Survey CreatorGold Qualifier
(reply to southernyankee) posted 22-Jul-2008 11:45pm  

Perhaps you're right. I think we need to use a lot of common sense. It just takes common sense sometimes to see what is right.
Bilateralkitty
posted 23-Jul-2008 9:03am  

I believe the whole "oil situation" is a deliberatly-engineered speculative bubble, designed by Big Oil and Wall Street and the Republicans to get as much money as they can out of the American public before Bush/Cheney leave office. Think back folks, do you remember in the months prior to the Nov 2004 election how the price of gasoline dropped almost $1.50 a gallon, and then in Jan 2005 how the price started going back up?? I sure as hell do! That event alone was proof that the energy markets were being deliberatly manipulated by oil speculators on the CBT and Futures Markets. Did you know that the people and LLC/LLP Corporations who bid upon and thus set the price of oil are often subsidary corporations of Exxon, Shell, Sunoco, Hess and others? Oh well that's what you get when you have Emperor Caligula the Prince of Darkness and Baron Von Frankenstien of BIG OIL seated in the White House. Only way to stop this insanity is to go back to 1970's style Price Controls for a 6-8 Month period to FORCE the oil companies and their covert speculative Energy Futures Traders to lower prices.
cerealkiller Survey Qualifier
posted 24-Jul-2008 6:18pm  

Siphon gas from your neighbors' cars.
docgbrown
posted 25-Jul-2008 5:38am  

Alcohol fuel cell development (chemistry is now all done now someone has got to engineer it into a car)
Pulse width water electrolysis for internal combustion
We need to drill off of California anyway to stop the natural crude oil eruptions (spills) that keep happening along the coast and killing marine life. Drilling will relieve the pressure and we will have LESS pollution there.
Compressed air-powered car development and production. (like the Midi air car)
JohnCD
(reply to LJD) posted 9-Aug-2008 2:34pm  

> God helps those that help themselves. We have a tough road ahead
> of us, but in the end we'll win.....

How very true this is.
JohnCD
(reply to JessicaWoman99) posted 9-Aug-2008 2:37pm  

> Yes I suggest we drill for oil in our backyards and please! do not
> tell Bush about our plans

It's the democrats that are trying to prevent drilling on our own soil.
JohnCD
posted 9-Aug-2008 2:40pm  

One thing we all can do is drive a little less and reduce the demand for oil/gas a little bit. Imagine if everyone reduced their gasoline consumption by two or three gallons a month.
JohnCD
(reply to LJD) posted 9-Aug-2008 2:42pm  

> What is religion to you? There are those that feel that sex is a
> religion. Or that education is a religion. Some people worship material
> things, or drugs, or whatever. What is religion to you?
>
>

Religion (Christian) to me is the worship of God and faith in Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior.
LJD Bronze Star Survey CreatorGold Qualifier
(reply to JohnCD) posted 9-Aug-2008 4:20pm  

I'm with you John! In the end we will win. God Bless!
JohnCD
(reply to LJD) posted 9-Aug-2008 9:52pm  

> I'm with you John! In the end we will win. God Bless!

Yes we will win; all righteous will prevail in the end. May God richly bless you.
LJD Bronze Star Survey CreatorGold Qualifier
(reply to JohnCD) posted 9-Aug-2008 10:36pm  

Thank you John.
JohnCD
(reply to LJD) posted 9-Aug-2008 10:49pm  

> Thank you John.

Anytime. I wish everyone had the Christian faith and beliefs that we do.
LJD Bronze Star Survey CreatorGold Qualifier
(reply to JohnCD) posted 9-Aug-2008 11:05pm  

John, in these times, there will be a famine of learning God's Word. Bible prophesy is unfolding before our eyes.
JohnCD
(reply to LJD) posted 9-Aug-2008 11:18pm  

> John, in these times, there will be a famine of learning God's Word.
> Bible prophesy is unfolding before our eyes.

You're right, there is a famine of learning God's Word and it's definitely Bible prophesy. I just wish everyone knew God and Jesus Christ like we do. You can try to lead people the right way, but you can't force them to go the right way.
LJD Bronze Star Survey CreatorGold Qualifier
(reply to JohnCD) posted 10-Aug-2008 10:06am  

You have it right John.

God bless you!
efh47
posted 11-Aug-2008 4:43pm  

Stay home. Combine trips. Fill your tank when the price is lowest.
JohnCD
(reply to LJD) posted 13-Aug-2008 1:12am  

> You have it right John.
>
> God bless you!

I'm glad somebody on this sight agrees and knows the truth besides me. God Bless you also.
LJD Bronze Star Survey CreatorGold Qualifier
(reply to JohnCD) posted 13-Aug-2008 10:02am  

Thank you.

I understand how you feel John....in these times, we'll see less and less.
JohnCD
(reply to LJD) posted 16-Aug-2008 12:06am  

> Thank you.
>
> I understand how you feel John....in these times, we'll see less and
> less.

This is unfortunate, but true.



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