| User | Comment |
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LJD   | | posted 18-Jun-2008 1:56pm |
As I understand it....two people were given a task together...one does not participate, the other does it all. The non-helping doesn't have a right to whine, complain about the outcome of the job. |
Enheduanna  | | posted 18-Jun-2008 1:58pm |
It depends. Sometimes someone refuses help or they're doing the task because they offered to help but refused any tips on how to do it. This used to happen sometimes with my SO cleaning the apartment. |
| moviesnob | | posted 18-Jun-2008 2:31pm |
Uh, well. If my boss said "Do this task" and then didn't help me with it ('cause she assigned it to me, ya know) and then doged at me because I did a bad job, I'd say she has the right to nitpick. |
| highwaypatrolj | | posted 18-Jun-2008 3:13pm |
if they ask for help they shouldnt complain |
bill   | | posted 18-Jun-2008 3:42pm |
In my perfect world, no one gets to complain, EVER. |
LindaH   |
? |
| Melf | | posted 18-Jun-2008 8:50pm |
Yes. |
| LindaH | | posted 18-Jun-2008 9:51pm |
Today I cleaned the garage. I dumped out buckets and boxes and knocked shelves out of the way, so everything would be easier to find.  I did it myself, so he better not complain. |
| JessicaWoman99 | | posted 18-Jun-2008 9:54pm |
No they should not get out of shape over this if they were to lazy to help it is their problem oh well |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to LindaH) posted 18-Jun-2008 9:56pm |
> Today I cleaned the garage. I dumped out buckets and boxes and knocked
> shelves out of the way, so everything would be easier to find.
> I did it myself, so he better not complain.
Or tell him to do it himself the next time see how he likes that |
| LindaH |
But that's not as fun |
| LindaH | | (reply to Melf) posted 18-Jun-2008 11:10pm |
Why? |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to LindaH) posted 18-Jun-2008 11:27pm |
> But that's not as fun
No it would not be Linda because you can throw away his junk without him knowing about it??
"giggles"
He would be like honey where is my saw or where is that gosh darn wrench of mine! |
| LindaH |
No, I just scattered things around the floor, as that is a simple way to find things. Nothing under or behind anything, or at the bottom of a bin or pile. Convenient! |
| JessicaWoman99 |
> if they ask for help they shouldnt complain
Are you the real California Highway Patrol Ponch & John from the CHIPS Patrol that was my favorite show
of all time and I loved those bikes they rode
Ponch he was so cool and very cute and handsome "yummy" |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to LindaH) posted 18-Jun-2008 11:35pm |
> No, I just scattered things around the floor, as that is a simple
> way to find things. Nothing under or behind anything, or at the bottom
> of a bin or pile. Convenient!
Oh how convenient indeed and the easy way to find anything , me myself i just sort everything neatly above and
under everything and a year later where is that ?? grrrr
cannot find it oh how frustrating when something so very important vanishes just like that grrr |
| they | | posted 18-Jun-2008 11:51pm |
Depends on how bad the job was. |
| Melf | | (reply to LindaH) posted 19-Jun-2008 5:17am |
Because I don't see how you lose a 'right'. Right is a really wishy-washy word. |
| LindaH | | (reply to Melf) posted 19-Jun-2008 11:58am |
Oh. How about, "Is this person right to complain"? |
| Lahdee | | posted 19-Jun-2008 12:17pm |
NOPE!!!!! |
| Melf | | (reply to LindaH) posted 19-Jun-2008 12:23pm |
Then I'd still say yes. If they said 'you did it wrong' and if affected a lot of people, they were still right. I'd say this person is being a wanker, but that doesn't make what they're saying wrong. |
| LindaH | | (reply to Melf) posted 19-Jun-2008 12:54pm |
Don't you think the person should keep their mouth closed and not criticize after the fact, if they weren't helping during the fact? It seems oblivious and rude. They shouldn't even be saying it, even if it were the truth. If they want things to turn out closer to how they want it done, they should lift a finger. Not helping automatically puts them in the 'no complaints' category. They could have prevented the problems they see in the results, by doing (helping) while the task was in progress. There are times when a person should keep their opinion to themselves. That is one of those times. |
| highwaypatrolj |
sorry i dont ride a motorcycle, patrol unit, erik estrada? i met him once, butt-hole wouldnt even shake my hand when i asked him for a handshake, he said i dont shake hands, seen him at a tavern in west hollywood |
| Crayons | | posted 19-Jun-2008 5:52pm |
That is, if they were not supposed to help. If someone told them to help, or they were on the work team, they have no right. |
| JessicaWoman99 |
> sorry i dont ride a motorcycle, patrol unit, erik estrada? i met him
> once, butt-hole wouldnt even shake my hand when i asked him for a handshake,
> he said i dont shake hands, seen him at a tavern in west hollywood
Oh he is that un-friendly type of a jerk now i see , they never appear as friendly off the movie set maybe he has
issues in his life that he cannot cope with Erik Estrada he sounds like he needs to get a life |
cloudhugger  | | posted 20-Jun-2008 8:05am |
Yes. Everyone has the right to complain about anything they want to. Taking legal action is another thing. |
| Melf | | (reply to LindaH) posted 20-Jun-2008 9:32am |
'Not helping automatically puts them in the 'no complaints' category'
It's still their opinion, and the person who did the task alone can ignore it if they want (why aren't there any single, gender neutral, third person pronouns?) Or they can say 'it would be better if you'd helped; I did the best I could'. They can complain if they want; it's not going to affect anyone. |
| LindaH | | (reply to Melf) posted 20-Jun-2008 11:37am |
When it is frequent enough, it gets annoying, even infuriating. |
| Zang | | posted 20-Jun-2008 4:31pm |
Absolutely! Of course, I'm assuming that this is an employer/employee relationship. I might have a different opinion depending on the specific scenario. |
| Melf | | (reply to LindaH) posted 20-Jun-2008 4:54pm |
Then that's an issue for, as Zang says, specific scenarios. |
| LindaH | | (reply to Melf) posted 20-Jun-2008 5:08pm |
The scenario I had in mind was one where the person complaining should have been helping to begin with, never helps, just complains afterward. |
| Melf | | (reply to LindaH) posted 20-Jun-2008 5:10pm |
And I haven't an issue with that  |
| LindaH | | (reply to Melf) posted 20-Jun-2008 5:11pm |
If you had a roommate like that, their complaining wouldn't bother you? |
| Melf | | (reply to LindaH) posted 20-Jun-2008 5:58pm |
It might. But, again, it still doesn't make them 'wrong' to complain. They're just acting like a prick. |
| LindaH | | (reply to Melf) posted 20-Jun-2008 6:35pm |
Oh. I think it makes them sound oblivious, like they are complaining about something they should have been working on. If they would have been helping, their issue wouldn't have been an issue. It's like sending someone to the store for onions, and then complaining that you bought the wrong kind.
To complain after the fact, when you were too lazy to stick around during the fact is plain stupid. I would think they were wrong to complain, simply because they give up their right to have things done their way when they don't pitch in. |
| Gomezy3k | | posted 22-Jun-2008 12:58pm |
One of the reasons I perfer doing things alone.. I can do it my way and tell anyone who gripes to go to heck... |
| Biggles | | posted 24-Jun-2008 7:24am |
My younger brother recently produced a pile of dirty plates/pans, etc over the course of a couple of days when there was no-one else at home. He was due to go away for a few days the day after I returned, so I asked him to make sure he washed his pots before he went, which he did. When I went to put them away, I noticed that he had done an incomplete and sloppy job and that the plates were not clean. I had to redo everything that he had "washed". I certainly feel that I had the right to complain that he hadn't done the job right - it was his job to do it, not mine but his failure to do it properly had an impact on me.
On a grander scale - the government of this country are charged with the job of keeping the country running smoothly and protecting the people who live here. If they do a sloppy job then I have every right to complain without having to get myself elected and doing the job myself.
I'm sure there are specific situations where someone who wasn't involved in the job (because they unreasonably refused to do so, or similar) shouldn't have the right to complain, but you asked a general question so I'll give a general answer. In general, yes, I do think they have a right to complain. |
| highwaypatrolj |
whats erik estrada going to do to me, sell me swamp land? i agree with comedian george lopez, he's a prick, fudge you ponch |
| JessicaWoman99 |
> whats erik estrada going to do to me, sell me swamp land? i agree
> with comedian george lopez, he's a prick, fudge you ponch
Guess it is the way some people are just plain morons and people we cannot change who they are |
| judgescratch | | posted 25-Jun-2008 3:00pm |
Depends |
| highwaypatrolj |
people suck, i deal with crackheads, tweakers, drunks, wife beaters, junkies, alcoholics,pill poppers, list goes on, people suck |
| JessicaWoman99 |
> people suck, i deal with crackheads, tweakers, drunks, wife beaters,
> junkies, alcoholics,pill poppers, list goes on, people suck
People live in their very own world and all to themselves it is like a ( bubble) do you remember that boy in
a plastic bubble he had to live in there
because the outside world would have killed him?
Yes people everybody has their own way and nothing we can do to change who they are
and it does suck indeed and no matter where we live in the world whether we live in the Utah mountains
or the Arizona desert junkies and alcoholics are all over the world yes even Russia and now Japan as
well is on this list you mentioned as well they have their hookers and prostitutes and johns
Las Vegas is great for all of the above: |
| highwaypatrolj |
or downtown south central los angeles or san francisco to add to the list |
| Matty | | posted 27-Jun-2008 3:29pm |
I think it depends on whether the non-helping person was expected to contribute. |
| JessicaWoman99 |
> or downtown south central los angeles or san francisco to add to the
> list
But oh well we live with them and they could be like our neighbors who are dealing drugs? Yes my neighbors
have had the drug task force Knock down their door and made a dozen arrests around this town
We just have to live with it and endure it and this is Colorado Rockies right here |
| LindaH |
Take pictures with your cell phone  |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to LindaH) posted 27-Jun-2008 8:22pm |
> Take pictures with your cell phone
Oh yes now i can without them realizing i am taking their picture which is so cool but still this is all new to me |
| kcthedog |
It depends Linda, who’s job was it? If it was your job then he should be able to complain if it affects him. On the other hand if it was one of those things that anyone should have done it because it needed to be done and he waited for you to do it and then complained,……..well I’d dump hot coffee in his lap! |
