| User | Comment |
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Galomorro   | | posted 18-Jun-2008 12:29am |
No. It's not the boss's bizness what his employees do during their time off work. |
Melf   | | posted 18-Jun-2008 2:15am |
Yeah. |
| kirst | | posted 18-Jun-2008 6:35am |
It would depend on your job, I would think. I doubt that if you work at McDonald's (for example), that your boss cares what you do in your free time. However, if you're a teacher, what you did in your spare time might be problematic. When I taught in Florida, we had a morals clause (and it was quite vague) in our contract and you could be fired if you did something that didn't reflect well on you as a person. |
| Biggles | | posted 18-Jun-2008 7:28am |
It depends on the mischief and the nature of the work. I don't think it would be inappropriate for a village vicar, doctor or teacher to be spoken to by their boss if they were going to the village pub every week, getting spectacularly drunk and publicly engaging in "petty mischief". |
| LJD | | posted 18-Jun-2008 7:45am |
Depends. An employee's bad behavior on off days can reflect on their character, and representation of a company. |
| jettles | | posted 18-Jun-2008 11:44am |
petty mischief probably not but it completely depends on the kind of work you do as well. i don't think many people will tolerate even petty mischief from a police officer or judge but i would from my mechanic or grocer. it can also depend on the kind of petty mischief but on the whole i don't think it should bother us too much. |
| Enheduanna | | (reply to jettles) posted 18-Jun-2008 12:31pm |
Happy Birthday! |
| jettles |
thank you so much! |
| moviesnob | | posted 18-Jun-2008 2:33pm |
I guess it depends on what you do. |
JessicaWoman99  | | posted 18-Jun-2008 11:38pm |
Oh yes my boss she does care and it would concern her what trouble i get into because I am well respected
at work and on the job |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to moviesnob) posted 18-Jun-2008 11:40pm |
> I guess it depends on what you do.
Depends on what you do like running around town topless oh it was to hot to wear my bra |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to Galomorro) posted 18-Jun-2008 11:43pm |
> No. It's not the boss's bizness what his employees do during their
> time off work.
Living in a small and very tiny town it is much different because you do not get away with anything and with
the boss not knowing about it?
Oh word gets out about you and like a wildfire the whole town knows? |
| llamamama | | posted 18-Jun-2008 11:44pm |
Well, if it's obvious that the person is from that company yes..Or if the person is doing something terribly illegal in which case he/she will be thrown in prison..Yes, I think the boss deserves to know. |
| Galomorro |
Ug - that is why I'd never live in a small town! |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to Galomorro) posted 19-Jun-2008 12:00am |
> Ug - that is why I'd never live in a small town!
Living in a big city say like San Francisco people do not know who I am? I could just probably disappear
or even Denver there are a few who do know me really well , but some other city like Houston Texas they
would be like who is she who is this person
Yes in small towns we know what clothes everybody is wearing oh the gossip and chat around here about
other people |
| moviesnob |
What a response to read at 7:00AM. |
| Galomorro |
Yeah, I like being anonymous, just another face in the crowd with my iPod plugged in. |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to moviesnob) posted 19-Jun-2008 2:32pm |
> What a response to read at 7:00AM.
Or it could very well be 12:00 noon or whatever |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to Galomorro) posted 19-Jun-2008 11:06pm |
> Yeah, I like being anonymous, just another face in the crowd with
> my iPod plugged in.
Living here in this town it will never happen to me except for the Summer season we do get Tourists up here
and I am just a face in the crowd with them? how lucky i am for Tourists season |
| Galomorro |
Lucky are we who get tourists -- good for the economy! Some people can still afford to travel these days... |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to Galomorro) posted 20-Jun-2008 12:03am |
> Lucky are we who get tourists -- good for the economy! Some people
> can still afford to travel these days...
Oh can they ever afford it these real nice Luxury Motor Homes are pulling into town and some of these Motor
Homes are the size of a football field?
gas here is $399.00 a gallon guess they really have some deep pockets and deep bank accounts must be
nice to be loaded with a Swiss Bank Account on 4 wheels tee/hee
your own traveling kitchen from your very own 2 bedrooms on 4 wheels that you can live in for years and
years just hook up or un-plug at your RV Park if you can fit it in there? |
| southernyankee | | posted 20-Jun-2008 2:10am |
Depends. If you wind up in jail / get community service, and being in jail / community service prevents you from comming in to work, that seems like a pretty good reason to care. If you do drugs that can affect your health, it matters if your employer has to foot the bill. Also, certain high profile jobs means that what you do off the clock can still affect you. |
| southernyankee |
Houston Texas is a small town? Thats news to me. |
| Galomorro |
Yeah, sometimes I wonder how anyone can go on vacation these days -- but I rarely see any kind of luxury motor homes -- just lots of cars and tour buses out here. I wonder how difficult it would be to pull one of those big motor homes up a steep hill? |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to Galomorro) posted 20-Jun-2008 2:58pm |
> Yeah, sometimes I wonder how anyone can go on vacation these days
> -- but I rarely see any kind of luxury motor homes -- just lots of
> cars and tour buses out here. I wonder how difficult it would be to
> pull one of those big motor homes up a steep hill?
Oh those Motor Homes are so darn slow going up a steep hill in Colorado just like a bus they are
and cars do line up behind them trying to get around |
| Zang | | posted 20-Jun-2008 4:34pm |
It depends on the nature of the "trouble". |
| Galomorro |
Yeah I'd think it'd be a real pain to try to get past 'em. Honk! |
| Enigma | | posted 20-Jun-2008 10:08pm |
Oh yeah. Once on a Monday one of my service men looked particularly ratty. Then I found out he'd spent the weekend in jail, had been charged and that he had a major drinking problem he was not dealing with. I sure cared (not only because I actually did care where he was headed as a person) because he was going to be losing a lot of time off work and if he ended up losing his license because of his boozing how could I employ him? His job involved driving. |
| LindaH | | posted 21-Jun-2008 2:01pm |
I think it depends on what their job is, like kirst and biggles said, and what the mischief is, like southernyankee and enigma said. Are you in a position where making mischief would compromise your authority, or affect your ability to show up to work and do your job? Then your boss should care.
If you work as a janitor, cook or even a store clerk and get in minor trouble on your day off, that doesn't put you in jail or render you hungover/unable to go back to work and do your job, then your boss shouldn't care. |
| Gomezy3k | | posted 22-Jun-2008 1:34pm |
No what I do on my own time is my own dang business...Unfortunately many rectal cranium inverted bosses think it might bring discredit on the company and try to control what I do outside of business... One of the reasons I had trouble with many jobs... the boss tells me I cannot do something and I have to try to kill him or her... Some people have no sense of humor... |
| judgescratch | | posted 25-Jun-2008 3:03pm |
Depends
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cloudhugger  | | posted 26-Jun-2008 11:47am |
Or how about getting thrown in jail and fudging everyone else at the jobsight because of their selfish misfortune? Yes, a boss should care. I wouldn't want to hire a simple minded petty mishiefer.
A thief or a public moron will not work in my place of business. I'm sure it depends on the type of business, but if it were my business, that type of behaviour will certainly turn the trust factor into mush. All the way across town doesn't matter when the newspapers print names and abuses of the law all over the county. |
| cloudhugger | | posted 26-Jun-2008 12:00pm |
That sounded pretty harsh what I said, I took it as a personal question. I freaked, I am ok now. We are not barbarians, and there is no reason to live as such. Everyone should care, not just bosses. Petty mischief is not ok, it is not a victomsless crime, and a person who is employed by a boss ought to have respect for themselves and the job they have. I wouldn't argue with or for people who do not care about self respect. |
| LindaH |
What if this mischief was not getting them thrown in jail, printed in the paper, or too hurt to go to work? Would you, as a boss, fire or reprimand someone who started doing this stuff after being hired? |
| cloudhugger | | (reply to LindaH) posted 26-Jun-2008 6:25pm |
Than I wouldn't know?? I would, as a boss. It's a small town and we work in health care. there is a trust issue where people come for peace and well being. If one of our employees was running around clubbing mailboxes and one of the patients saw it, it would definetly cause a problem.
I cannot speak for the grocer boss, or the newspaper boss, but in our office such rediculous behaviour cannot be tolerated. I have to be so freaking careful in town, and the nearby towns so as not to cause any trouble. |
| LindaH |
That makes sense.
Curious side topic though: How do you define self-respect? Should I make a survey? |
| cloudhugger | | (reply to LindaH) posted 26-Jun-2008 6:40pm |
Hasn't that been done within the last year?? I look stuff up in the dictionary to define stuff, I know that's cheating.  |
| LindaH |
I don't think that survey has been done.
I'm curious how you associate mischief making with a lack of self respect. I would associate it with a lack of respect for other people. |
| cloudhugger | | (reply to LindaH) posted 26-Jun-2008 10:39pm |
Mischief making and trouble are two different things. the survey was, I thought, about trouble making. Something a bit more rebellious than mischief. |
| LindaH |
Oh, I see. So you see trouble makers as having no self respect? Like they are deliberately trying to get themselves in trouble or something? |
| cloudhugger | | (reply to LindaH) posted 26-Jun-2008 10:46pm |
whatever they do why they do. If a person or a kid is in the process of having to make a decision...do I knock over the cart of apples or do I help the little old lady across the street. Do I kick the drunk, or do I give him a dollar. Or do I do nothing. A person's self worth is always in the back of the mind during these decisions. |
| LindaH |
How so? I'd think that most decisions in dealing with other people, it's the worth you place on other people that determines how you treat them. |
| cloudhugger | | (reply to LindaH) posted 26-Jun-2008 10:56pm |
Yeah, that way too. 6 of one, half a dozen of the other |
| LindaH |
Why would your own self esteem enter the picture though? |
| cloudhugger | | (reply to LindaH) posted 27-Jun-2008 10:38am |
Why wouldn't it? You walk down the street, being just anybody? or being yourself? |
| LindaH |
What I meant was, why would a person's behavior toward others be associated with his own self-respect? If he was mean, would that necessarily mean he had "no self respect"? You could have great self esteem, like yourself, have confidence, etc, but not have much regard for other people.
So, hypothetically, you could hire a person with good skills, who loves their job, has confidence and a good work ethic, but who has it in for some neighbors or has frequent conflicts with people they run into every weekend, and like to push their buttons and start stuff with 'em. It means they don't respect the other people, not that they don't respect their own self.
The kid that kicks over the apple cart might have good self esteem. |
| cloudhugger | | (reply to LindaH) posted 27-Jun-2008 8:29pm |
The kid that kicks over the apple cart might have good self esteem.
He's still an butt-hole. How could someone who treats others bad have any slef respect? It would be more like gigantic ego covering up inadequacies. It's kidding themselves. Look at someone who has giant self respect, a giant ego, and see how they treat others. They are liars to themselves. Self respect, self esteem is in a different catagory than someone who thinks they are better than others. |
| LindaH |
It seems like the same exact category, to me. Unless there's a definition of self respect that I'm totally not getting. Respect is a confusing concept for me anyway, it seems like an untangible, undefinable concept. |
| cloudhugger | | (reply to LindaH) posted 28-Jun-2008 11:08am |
Respect is based on opinion rather than fact. Maybe that is why it seems intangible. There is a kid down the road that respects the other one for kicking the apple cart, and a bunch of kids are in fear from retribution and a few other kids that mock him for being a jerk. |
| LindaH |
And, just like the kids who respect him for knocking over the apple cart, he respects himself for the same reason. Especially if, say, he had a beef with the store owner. He'd lose respect for himself for walking away from the store owner treating him like crap. He'd feel better about himself and the whole situation if he kicked the cart as he walked away. |
| cloudhugger | | (reply to LindaH) posted 28-Jun-2008 7:07pm |
The kid is an butt-hole. He can justify his feelings anyway he wants. |
| LindaH |
An butt-holes can still have self respect. |
| cloudhugger | | (reply to LindaH) posted 30-Jun-2008 1:55am |
I'm telling you, their self respect is an illusion. |
| LindaH |
How do you know? |
| Matty |
Yes, if your job is of the public trust or places you in a position of trust within a company, your overall pattern behavior could pose a security risk at work.
Otherwise, I don't see the point, other than to give someone a hard time. |
kcthedog   |
Well Yea!
While I do not consider it my business what my workers do after hours, I consider the collateral damage done to creditability and responsibility to be considerable! If a person has no control over their personal life how can I depend on them as an employee? |
| LindaH | | (reply to kcthedog) posted 6-Jul-2008 7:39pm |
What if it is a person with a strong work ethic, who is a very serious, dedicated employee, and feels that time off is for reckless abandon? |
| kcthedog | | (reply to LindaH) posted 6-Jul-2008 7:43pm |
As long as I don't have to bail him out of jail or worry about him sixty feet up hanging off the side of a building the night after of "reckless abandon". |
| LindaH | | (reply to kcthedog) posted 6-Jul-2008 7:45pm |
Well yeah. True. |
