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jettles  | | posted 15-Jun-2008 12:42pm |
i agree for the most part.......... i don't think that child molesters should partake of their love in their own home. as long as you don't hurt or encroach on anyone else's rights by what you do then yes. this would preclude a meth lab, murder, child abuse, and the like! i think people should be able to partake of "illegal" drugs in their own home but if they leave to drive or work while still under the affects of those drugs then they can be arrested. |
Galomorro   | | posted 15-Jun-2008 1:15pm |
Other - it depends on what they're doing. If they're abusing a person or animal, then no they should not. Only if they're not harming anyone else. |
| llamamama | | posted 15-Jun-2008 1:17pm |
Uh, no..Murder? But other than things like that, yes. |
| JessicaWoman99 | | posted 15-Jun-2008 1:28pm |
Well yes in the privacy of their own home they can do anything they want even fondle themselves |
dab   | | posted 15-Jun-2008 1:30pm |
Of course not. Murder, rape, and robbery should be just as illegal inside someone's home as out in public. |
| Biggles | | posted 15-Jun-2008 1:49pm |
I disagree - no-one should have the right to harm others whether that's in their own home or not. People who are capable of giving consent should be able to engage in any consensual activities they wish to though. |
Melf    | | posted 15-Jun-2008 2:03pm |
Sure. Like viewing child porn and rape. |
LJD   | | posted 15-Jun-2008 3:31pm |
Depends. Anything that will harm another is not allowed. It's a loaded question. . |
kcthedog  | | posted 15-Jun-2008 3:39pm |
 Disagree!
I say that because the scope of the word anything encompasses perverted and criminal activity, that is not right. I believe that a mans home is his castle, and short of an activity that could impact another human being it is his right to do so. |
Crayons   | | posted 15-Jun-2008 3:54pm |
I want to though, but then I'm sure that someone in my house would get killed so I guess that really shouldn't happen. |
southernyankee  | | posted 15-Jun-2008 4:07pm |
Murder, child abuse, domestic violence, stealing cable, etc. No. Just because you're inside your house doesn't give you magical powers to not follow the law. |
Enheduanna  | | posted 15-Jun-2008 4:45pm |
I disagree. They shouldn't be allowed to abuse people or animals in their own homes. They shouldn't be allowed to physically alter aspects of the home if they don't own it. |
moviesnob  | | posted 15-Jun-2008 5:29pm |
It depends. Are you talking about illegal acts? I don't think those should be allowed in someone's own home. |
| ausfox | | posted 15-Jun-2008 5:42pm |
Agree - so long as it is within the law |
bill    | | posted 15-Jun-2008 5:42pm |
I would like to agree, but I think rape and murder should not be allowed anywhere (for example).
Victimless crimes in your own home seems like something I could agree to, though. |
Irene007   | | posted 15-Jun-2008 6:17pm |
Mostly but I don't like the idea that abuse can happen behind closed doors too... |
Frostbrand  | | posted 16-Jun-2008 2:35am |
Pretty much yeah barring messing with high explosives, or any activity that involves harming non-consenting adults or kids. But when it comes to things like what books we read, the way we have sex with our willing partners, drugs (with perhapos an exception amde for those that cause violent reactions like PCP) or the values we instill in our children, butt the fudge out. |
icurok  | | (reply to LindaH) posted 16-Jun-2008 11:11am |
Aside from smoking the odd joint, what do you think you ought to be allowed to do within the privacy of your own home which is currently not allowed? |
LindaH    | | (reply to icurok) posted 16-Jun-2008 11:25am |
Harder drugs, taking other people's prescriptions, building without a permit, among other things. I made this survey to see how many people would think of murder, assault, etc, and many did. |
icurok  | | (reply to LindaH) posted 16-Jun-2008 12:17pm |
I sometimes take my SO's prescription painkillers if I have a headache because they're better than over the counter drugs. It's not illegal here (as far as I know), but then we have universal healthcare. In America where you have insurance companies running the show, wouldn't it be classed as fraud to get drugs on prescription and let someone else use them? It would be like getting a fuel card from your employer (on the understanding that you only use it pay for the fuel you use getting to and from work) and then using to fill your SO's car too.
Also, why do you think you should be allowed to take hard drugs or to carry out building work without a permit?
In the UK, possession of a Class A drug (e.g. crack cocaine) is an unlimited fine and/or 7 years imprisonment which puts it on the same level as assault. Possession with intent to supply a Class A drug is life imprisonment. Why should being in your living room be any different to anywhere else?
Building permits don't exist to stop you from doing whatever you want, but to ensure that what is done meets certain standards. Would you be happy if your immediate neighbour built a garage without a permit that subsequently collapsed causing damage to your property? Would you shrug your shoulders and say, "I don't mind. I don't believe in permits anyway!"?
You seem to have this strange idea that there is no greater good and that we all exist as islands separated from each other by a wide sea so that our actions have no consequences for anyone else and that therefore we should be free to do what we like. As Oliver Wendell Holmes put it, "The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins". |
LindaH    | | (reply to icurok) posted 16-Jun-2008 12:45pm |
I think we have a right to do whatever doesn't directly interfere with other people. Hurting others, blocking their path, being so loud that they can't have a conversation, to name a few examples. If your actions have no direct consequences to other people, like preventing them from going about their business, then yeah, you can do as you like. That Holmes quote seems to fit my philosophy. A lot of what I think is okay, there really is no "nose" to speak of, though sometimes people have a false believe that a given behavior directly affects them.
I think that there are some drugs that should not be 'prescription only.' If you have a headache and take someone else's painkillers, more power to you. I don't think of it as fraud, because they were gained legitimately. The original user had a real reason/need for them, and had extra. (That would have been thrown in the garbage anyway)
A person should be allowed to use whatever drugs they need, to obtain the desired effects they want. Not to say irresponsible use isn't stupid, just that we shouldn't keep responsible people from anything, just because of the people who can't be responsible. If you take a drug in your living room, and remain in there until it wears off, you are affecting no other person.
The same goes for building permits. A person who knows exactly how to build a garage that won't fall down shouldn't have to pay for a permit and have it inspected, just because there are ameteur do-it-yourselfers who would build one with the quality of a kid's tree house. If it damaged my property, then he'd be responsible for paying to fix it. |
bill    | | (reply to icurok) posted 16-Jun-2008 12:46pm |
I'd be surprised if taking someone else's prescription painkillers (SO's or not) is legal in UK. Though, it's more a technicality for cases like you mention. Most police wouldn't bother to enforce it, I assume. I also assume you wouldn't run out to tell your local police that you did it either.
In the US, there's a thriving black market and likely growing problem surrounding pain pills (opiates, essentially). OxyContin is the latest, it seems. They are very addictive and addicts cause a lot of problems. It's really just like heroin. I assume the UK would have similar problems. A while back I heard that the UK has tried some legalization of heroin, though tightly controlled. Essentially, you could register as an addict and get it from the government rather than off the streets. I'm not sure if you're still doing it though. We have methadone clinics here which are similar in nature.
I don't think it has much to do with insurance companies. Our insurance is really just about who pays. Opiate-based medications are tightly controlled. Pharmacists are very careful about dispensing them here. This is because of the law not insurance. I would assume the same controls exist in the UK in some form because of the problem of addicts, which seems to be a worldwide issue. |
cerealkiller   | | posted 16-Jun-2008 1:34pm |
Depends. Certain things I'd say no like molesting their children, running a drug operation, raising chickens, beating each other, etc. |
they     | | posted 17-Jun-2008 8:15am |
I agree up to the point of any type of abuse.
So as long as nobody gets hurt... why not? |
they     |
> butt
> the fudge out.
That made me think:
"fudge the butt out" |
Zang  | | posted 20-Jun-2008 4:59pm |
I don't believe that people should be allowed to tie up children and torture them with a soldering iron in the privacy of their own home.
They really ought to do it out in public. |
| Enigma | | posted 20-Jun-2008 11:04pm |
Totally disagree. People shouldn't be able to do WHATEVER in their home. Like torture things.... or well... whatever... |
| midagehippie | | posted 6-Jul-2008 10:09am |
if it is not hurting anyone or violating another's rights, then I absolutely agree.
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