| User | Comment |
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Galomorro   | | posted 27-May-2008 8:43pm |
Certainly. |
Enheduanna  | | posted 27-May-2008 9:14pm |
Hell yeah, I'd vote for it twice. |
dab   | | posted 27-May-2008 10:17pm |
As I've said before, I think equal protection under the law is not just the law, it's also a good idea. |
| JessicaWoman99 | | posted 27-May-2008 11:20pm |
Probably would not vote for such a thing this is just a little to much for me and the Bible say's marriage is
between man and woman
not between Adam and Bob or John and Steve
|
cloudhugger  | | posted 27-May-2008 11:39pm |
Yes, absolutely. It doesn't mean I will jump on the little gay band wagon as most of you know...but I fully suport anyone who does.
Good survey  |
| kcthedog | | posted 27-May-2008 11:53pm |
While I have no problem with gay couples consummating a union and living a lifestyle of a couple including all the financial benefits enjoyed by married couples. By definition a marriage is a union between male and female originally conceived to consummate a sexual relationship resulting in children. I do not think that Gays should need vindication of a marriage certificate to solidify a committed relationship, history will show that a marriage certificate or license does not guarantee or sanctify a relationship under God or not. When an earthly judge can nullify an oath to God made on his alter (divorce) what meaning does it have to have a minister or priest join hands in a matrimonial ceremony? |
| Frostbrand | | posted 27-May-2008 11:58pm |
Yes. |
| Frostbrand |
> Probably would not vote for such a thing this
> is just a little to much for me and the Bible
> say's marriage is
> between man and woman
> not between Adam and Bob or John and Steve
>
Actually in the Bible mariage is man OWNING a woman, which is "slightly" diferent then what we have now. |
LindaH  | | posted 28-May-2008 12:10am |
Yes
Marriage as recognized by the state, and marriage as recognized by the church are two different things. I got married in a courthouse. There was no church at all associated with it. Involving the church is totally optional. I don't see what religion should have to do with it, really. If a heterosexual couple can be married in a courthouse, in a ceremony involving no religion at all, then why should a homosexual marriage be a religious issue? |
| Psychologo |
What about equallity, plus what kind of religious person use the bible to denie others their rights (kkk), any way what do you care what people do in their own lives, what happens earth is for God to decied. Why should gay marrage be look down when divorce is ok yet still agaist the bible. |
| JessicaWoman99 |
> |> Probably would not vote for such a thing this
> |> is just a little to much for me and the Bible
> |> say's marriage is
> |> between man and woman
> |> not between Adam and Bob or John and Steve
> |>
>
> Actually in the Bible mariage is man OWNING a woman, which is "slightly"
> diferent then what we have now.
Good enough for me because all the boyfriends that i had , they really thought they owned me and they did
soon as I got into a relationship i could not get out of it without me being threatened if i tried to leave him
And yes he would have hurt me if I did try to leave |
| JessicaWoman99 |
> What about equallity, plus what kind of religious person use the bible
> to denie others their rights (kkk), any way what do you care what
> people do in their own lives, what happens earth is for God to decied.
> Why should gay marrage be look down when divorce is ok yet still agaist
> the bible.
Same sex marriage just does not make any sense to me , but yes i do have many friends who are gay and yes
it would hurt them if they knew about how I feel
Far as divorce it is ok to divorce in most situations like if he is planning to kill me and he abuses me i need to
find a way out of this if at all possible or I am dead and the way it usually ends up in most cases
No most marriages there is just no way to leave and your stuck right there no matter a death sentence
Well I guess if same sex marriage becomes legal in all 50 states then so be it children will grow up confused
as if we are not confused enough add this to it |
| Psychologo |
Allow gay marriage wont confuse kids, confution comes from not being well educated on the subject that some people choose to be gay, and this leads to kids seeing the gays as "freaks" and a form of ridicual, not what we want with kids, raising them to be biggots. ( no offence to any gays that may be reading this) |
| LJD | | posted 28-May-2008 3:07am |
No |
| Melf | | posted 28-May-2008 4:15am |
I would if I could. |
| bill | | posted 28-May-2008 7:12am |
Yes, though I'd prefer a bill that removed all mention and definition of marriage in all existing laws.
I think it would be simpler if the government simply stayed out of it. |
| bill | | posted 28-May-2008 8:02am |
I already allow gay marriage, there's no need to vote for me. |
| Iseult | | posted 28-May-2008 1:43pm |
No.
I don't oppose gay marriage or anything, but I've never voted in any elections, or any referendums, or anything else official (I did vote in school elections), so I'm sure I would not vote on this either. |
| Crayons | | posted 28-May-2008 2:55pm |
I can't vote, but I would. It's the same as everything else to me. |
| Psychologo | | (reply to LJD) posted 28-May-2008 3:08pm |
why not? |
| JessicaWoman99 |
> Allow gay marriage wont confuse kids, confution comes from not being
> well educated on the subject that some people choose to be gay, and
> this leads to kids seeing the gays as "freaks" and a form of ridicual,
> not what we want with kids, raising them to be biggots. ( no offence
> to any gays that may be reading this)
Yes you are right on this most kids these day's are not educated when it comes to gay people , they see them
as some threat to them and yes same with a mentally retarded person
Somebody who is mentally retarded in school they will be picked on by all the other children
and this is the same with those kids who are gay and come from a gay family , the kids in school they will
taunt them and tease them all because they do not understand why this person is this way or even some
fat chunky kid comes to school the children will give them all kinds of hell you can bet on that |
| aquawolfy |
Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve |
| Frostbrand | | (reply to aquawolfy) posted 28-May-2008 4:01pm |
> Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve
Also known as probably the stupidest of all arguments against gay marriage; only a retard would think a Chrsitian mythology inspired pun would count as a valid argument, don't you think? |
| aquawolfy |
Oh I'm not arguing, I'm simply repeating something I've heard before to JessicaWoman about her comment.
If I could I might repeat some Gay Pride saying to someone. But I don't know any.... |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to aquawolfy) posted 28-May-2008 4:18pm |
> Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve
Yes between Adam and Eve but i guess marriage should be for any couples who truly love each other
but still it would seem strange to me to see 2 men in public mooching on each other oh how freaky |
| Psychologo |
So after a childhood of hell you would take away their right to live in peace and happyness as a loving couple with all the rights of marry people have? |
| JessicaWoman99 |
> So after a childhood of hell you would take away their right to live
> in peace and happyness as a loving couple with all the rights of marry
> people have?
Wish there was something else I could say about this , it is not up to me whether or not states pass a law
on same sex marriage as you saw in California i am not the Supreme Court
|
| Psychologo |
But the original question was just hypothetical |
| JessicaWoman99 |
> But the original question was just hypothetical
Yes it was and..
but I do have many friends who are gay and i would rather stay out of this one |
| LJD |
Because, a gay relationship is not a marriage. |
| Psychologo |
Not really their friend if you cant even help them for pretend. |
| JessicaWoman99 |
> Not really their friend if you cant even help them for pretend.
Oh whatever but thanks anyway and have a great day |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to LindaH) posted 29-May-2008 1:12am |
> Yes
>
> Marriage as recognized by the state, and marriage as recognized by
> the church are two different things. I got married in a courthouse.
> There was no church at all associated with it. Involving the church
> is totally optional. I don't see what religion should have to do with
> it, really. If a heterosexual couple can be married in a courthouse,
> in a ceremony involving no religion at all, then why should a homosexual
> marriage be a religious issue?
It becomes a religious issue when 2 men or 2 women same sex couples marry each other , then it becomes
a religious issue
This is not like a man and woman getting married |
| Frostbrand | | (reply to LJD) posted 29-May-2008 1:53am |
> Because, a gay relationship is not a marriage.
That's not an argument. Try again. |
| LindaH |
But if these 2 men or 2 women do not belong to that religion, why should religious people worry about it? |
| mrmarm | | posted 29-May-2008 3:47am |
Probably, I hate the idea of marriage, it's creepy |
| mrmarm | | (reply to LindaH) posted 29-May-2008 3:57am |
Exactly, good point, however trying to explain this to certain people.................. won't do you much help, I get the feeling this relates to the saying you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink (being that you can make an argument and certain people won't understand) |
| cloudhugger | | (reply to kcthedog) posted 29-May-2008 9:42am |
Your opinion has nothing to do with gay people, that seems to reflect your over-all opinion of marriage...yes? no?
My straight friends were together for twenty some years. They just got married for saving tax money. The piece of paper is a ticket to financial gain.
AND I know for a fact that some girls dream of their wedding day. Complete with dress, gobs of food and hoards of family and friends, photographers...and some of those friends of mine that dream those big wedding day bells are gay.
Gay people are currently getting close to this but it is usually done in a gay bar or someone's back yard.
|
| cloudhugger |
> Same sex marriage just does not make any sense
> to me , but yes i do have many friends who are
> gay and yes
> it would hurt them if they knew about how I feel
>
All your gay friends are probably just being nice to you out of compassion and maybe a thread of common ground. I wouldn't worry too much about losing them if they found out how you really think. But, you know what, some people are really understanding and do have real compassion so maybe if they found out they would still be your friend. Single sided, but none the less, loyal. |
| cloudhugger |
pssssst sometimes we have reality issues... |
| kcthedog |
> Your opinion has nothing to do with gay people,
> that seems to reflect your over-all opinion
> of marriage...yes? no?
You are absolutely right! I was married once to a girl I loved with all my heart, without going into detail circumstances and a tragedy tore us apart (she divorced me). While I do not hold animosity towards her I am bitter about the whole marriage thing. I grew up in a Catholic environment in the fifties (Father knows best, Ozy and Harriett, Leave it to Beaver) and always thought marriage was for life, for better or worse, sickness and health, till death do us part. I really believed that and while my marriage was having problems I was committed to the oath I made to my wife with God as my witness to always love and cherish her, and some earthly judge who did not even know us bangs his gavel on the bar and says the oath she and I both took on an alter of God is null and void? To this day after twenty-five years I still long for her, she will not even respond to me when I send her flowers on her birthday……..she broke my heart! So in some ways I think the institution of marriage is a sham! I have been single ever since, somewhere in my mind and heart I am still married.
>
> My straight friends were together for twenty
> some years. They just got married for saving
> tax money. The piece of paper is a ticket
> to financial gain.
>
Why not since I think the institution of marriage is a sham, you might as well reap some financial benefit form the government, but I know some couples that had a great relationship outside of marriage and once married things feel apart, me for example I knew my wife for six years before we married she was young and still in nursing school and I was still establishing my business, soon after getting married she started to have second thoughts.
> AND I know for a fact that some girls dream
> of their wedding day. Complete with dress,
> gobs of food and hoards of family and friends,
> photographers...and some of those friends
> of mine that dream those big wedding day
> bells are gay.
> Gay people are currently getting close to
> this but it is usually done in a gay bar
> or someone's back yard.
>
Why can’t they have all the ceremony food and dress without a silly piece of paper? |
| LJD |
If you can't understand something as simple as a marriage, what entails a marriage, you do have an issue. Why does the homosexual/lesbian community need to be validated by their relationship being recognized as a marriage? My guess would be it all has to do with MONEY.
Marriage is one of a man and woman, and their ability to procreate together. A man and a man can't procreate,... a woman and a woman can't procreate......only a man and woman can. Need I explain it graphically for you to understand? Marriage is a sacred bond between a man and woman. |
| Frostbrand | | (reply to LJD) posted 29-May-2008 5:09pm |
> If you can't understand something as simple as
> a marriage, what entails a marriage, you do have
> an issue. Why does the homosexual/lesbian community
> need to be validated by their relationship being
> recognized as a marriage? My guess would be it
> all has to do with MONEY.
>
The meaning of marriage has changed already over the centuries. It used to be a matter of ownership; man OWNING woman. Women under the old system were little more than property.
> Marriage is one of a man and woman, and their
> ability to procreate together.
So, infertile couples can't marry? How about the elderly?
> A man and a man
> can't procreate,... a woman and a woman can't
> procreate......only a man and woman can. Need
> I explain it graphically for you to understand?
> Marriage is a sacred bond between a man and woman.
Actually that itself is a more interpritation of marriage then the one that exists in your Bible, so if it's okay for you to beleive in a new definition of mariage, why can't I? |
| mrmarm | | (reply to LJD) posted 29-May-2008 10:02pm |
So do you think that if a women can't have children because she's infertility or if a man can't either because he's impotent that mean they can't get married even if they're heterosexual? Funny how that contradicts what you said especially if you're answer is yes. |
| JessicaWoman99 | | (reply to LindaH) posted 29-May-2008 10:21pm |
> But if these 2 men or 2 women do not belong to that religion, why
> should religious people worry about it?
Because Linda people these days live their life word by word and what the Bible say's about marriage
the golden rule and that is marriage is meant for one man and one woman
And it does not matter if they are not religious it still applies to them one way or another
|
| LindaH |
It shouldn't apply to them, any more than their own books should apply to anyone else. If their religion said that it is very very bad to wear red footwear, should they try to enact laws that say no one at all, even people who do not belong to their belief system, should wear red footwear? |
| JessicaWoman99 |
>
> |> Same sex marriage just does not make any sense
> |> to me , but yes i do have many friends who are
> |> gay and yes
> |> it would hurt them if they knew about how I feel
> |>
> All your gay friends are probably just being nice to you out of compassion
> and maybe a thread of common ground. I wouldn't worry too much about
> losing them if they found out how you really think. But, you know
> what, some people are really understanding and do have real compassion
> so maybe if they found out they would still be your friend. Single
> sided, but none the less, loyal.
No people can get hurt so easy because we are all human and , I do know that if i were to bring this up and tell
them how I feel about gay marriage they would frown about it and cry
This is a very sensitive issue and that I do understand
I just wish there was another way or maybe hey!
yes go ahead and get married if your gay , cannot imagine what this world is going to look like with men kissing
men and women kissing women from my perspective it is truly wierd and not meant to be at all
according to the Lord God oh yea God is just a figment of my imagination is what you will tell me?
This makes suicide ok it is alright to take your life , it is alright to kill somebody??
It is alright to rob banks is what you are telling me |
| JessicaWoman99 |
So your both telling me and LJD that it is ok and normal to kill somebody or it is alright to commit suicide
there is nothing wrong with murder is what you are telling me Linda , you and others are on the other side of
the law robbing banks is fine and nothing wrong with robbing banks or shoplifting is fine and it is normal
to break the law |
| LindaH |
What? I don't see where you get that idea. The question is about changing a bad law. Some laws are good. Victimization is wrong. A gay couple wishing to have the benefits that come with being married are not wrong at all. There are no victims there. |
| LindaH | | posted 29-May-2008 10:51pm |
I thought of something...
More people on employer-based insurance (from their spouse) would mean less people on medicaid, no? Some of our tax money would be freed up for other things. |
| LindaH | | (reply to kcthedog) posted 29-May-2008 10:52pm |
>
> Why can’t they have all the ceremony food and
> dress without a silly piece of paper?
Because that silly piece of paper entitles them to power of attorney, executors of each others estates, to choose what happens if one should become comatose, to file jointly on taxes, to share health benefits, to answer for/with each other in secure transaction situations, and all the other benefits that a couple can share once they become married. It isn't just about being able to 'say' you are married or to prove a point. There are a lot of things married people get to do that single people don't get to do. Personally I think it's unfair that anyone should have to get married to do those things. But gay marriage is happening faster than this stupid 'rights of marriage' crap is disappearing. If the latter isn't going to happen, the former had better.
|
| LindaH | | (reply to LJD) posted 29-May-2008 10:55pm |
> Why does the homosexual/lesbian community
> need to be validated by their relationship being
> recognized as a marriage? My guess would be it
> all has to do with MONEY.
See my post above, to KCthedog. It isn't just about money. Maybe we should just get rid of the requirement that people be married in order to receive all these extra rights and benefits. That would make the whole thing a non-issue. |
| Frostbrand |
> So your both telling me and LJD that it is ok
> and normal to kill somebody or it is alright to
> commit suicide
> there is nothing wrong with murder is what you
> are telling me Linda , you and others are on the
> other side of
> the law robbing banks is fine and nothing wrong
> with robbing banks or shoplifting is fine and
> it is normal
> to break the law
That is a stupid non-sensical argument. Your implication is that you can't be moral if you don't believe in God. But, in Texas alone 30% of prison inmates identify as Baptist, and 18% as Catholic. Can someone who doesn't rape or murder ONLY because a myth holds them back be more moral than the non-believer who never had those desires in the first place? I submit to you that if you were to suddenly become a criminal beucase you realized there was no God, then you are by default an immoral person, and therefore by your own religion's standards, are hell bound anyway; damned if you do, damned if you don't. |
| LJD |
What can I say Frosty, you're liberal, anything goes. But you have to admit, a child can't be formed but by the seed of a man, and the egg of a woman. That has to say something. |
| LJD | | posted 30-May-2008 1:04am |
A man and woman can get married...if they can procreate, all the better. No twisting the scenarios. Marriage is between a man and woman...period. |
| LJD | | (reply to LindaH) posted 30-May-2008 1:14am |
A good point... |
| mrmarm | | (reply to LJD) posted 30-May-2008 3:44am |
What does marriage mean for you? (fyi I apologize if I was hostile with my first reply) |
| cloudhugger | | (reply to kcthedog) posted 30-May-2008 9:12am |
>...you might as well reap some financial benefit form the government,..
And when it is broken down like this....it doesn't make any sense. I see no arguments to support how same sex marriages are so illegal.
>Why can’t they have all the ceremony food and dress without a silly piece of paper?
I don't know...never thought about that. For straight people anyway. It's a little deeper for same sex, it's for a piece of paper otherwise, it is a commitment ceremony. Gays get the bells and whistles for "commitment ceremonys", but no piece of paper.
|
| Melf | | posted 30-May-2008 9:27am |
The pattern of these surveys:
Gay marriage: Good or bad?
Frostbrand: Good.
LJD: Bad
Frostbrand: Zomg you're wrong
LJD: That's just what they want you to think.
Frostbrand: Explain yourself
LJD: The commies! Duh.
Frostbrand: WTF!
LJD: They're everywhere. Obama's one. And he's a muslim.
Everyone else: No he's not!
LJD: You're just deluded.
Frostbrand: *Sigh*
Someone else: Ooh, that gives me an idea! Survey time...
ad infinitum. |
| cloudhugger | | (reply to LJD) posted 30-May-2008 9:31am |
> If you can't understand something as simple as
> a marriage, what entails a marriage, you do have
> an issue. Why does the homosexual/lesbian community
> need to be validated by their relationship being
> recognized as a marriage? My guess would be it
> all has to do with MONEY.
That was so harsh. So very harsh indeed. In fact, that is just mean.
>Marriage is one of a man and woman, and their ability to procreate together. A man and a man can't procreate,... a woman and |>a woman can't procreate......only a man and woman can. Need I explain it graphically for you to understand? Marriage is a |>sacred bond between a man and woman.
I've seen little procreated seeds of man and woman ruin this country far more than any child raised by a gay person could possible dream of. How about the man and woman who get married and have no intention at all of ever having children, their choice is legal under the law. I know many who never will have children. They can have access to all the laws without question or doubt.
You know what the best thing in the world could be to happen to you? Someone very close, near and dear to your heart confesses to you that they are gay and need your blessing. |
| cloudhugger |
uumm...this is what I said...
>All your gay friends are probably just being nice to you out of compassion and maybe a thread of common ground. I wouldn't |>worry too much about losing them if they found out how you really think. But, you know what, some people are really |>understanding and do have real compassion so maybe if they found out they would still be your friend. Single sided, but none |>the less, loyal.
And you are asking me if I am telling you that suicide or murder is alright?
I'll pass on this question due to I think you have mistaken your reply for perhaps someone else. |
| cloudhugger |
I don't believe that people can get hurt so easy. Not everyone has skin that is that thin they cry if someone, even a best friend, didn't like something about them. |
| LJD | | posted 30-May-2008 12:14pm |
Thank you Fealix.
Marriage to me, is a man and woman walking through life together, shoulder to shoulder, knowing and nurturing their partners strengths, understanding their weaknesses. I feel putting their partner's feelings before their own. I feel if the focus of a person's marriage is on God's Word, and their partner's well being, I believe a marriage can be successful. The problem is many times marriage isn't entered into for the right reasons.
I have a friend who told me, in her second marriage, she and her husband both married each other thinking they both had MONEY. My friend has money to burn, while her husband does not, but has ample to live on. Because of her and her husband's age, neither wants to start over. They're both unhappy...
Take care....God bless! |
| LJD |
I'm sorry if I sounded insensitive.
Cloudhugger, I know the pain of the homosexual/lesbian. One of my greatest pains in my life was when I found out my brother was homosexual. I had trouble sleeping for six months. Next, a very deep pain when I found out my oldest daughter was a lesbian...my life has never been the same. Then later another blow, found out my niece was lesbian... . I searched and searched for answers....found some answers. I have a better understanding of how homosexuality/lesbianism comes about.. After finding out, my family knows my stand on the issue, but they also know I love them all very much....and they love me. One day, about 5 years ago, I had a falling out with my brother, I called him sick. Our relationship was a little strained, but since has mended. He knows I love him. I can't remember what the discussion was about, except it was political. He's very liberal, non spiritual. We can't talk politics or religion. It's funny when I think about it. My sister is wishy washy, riding on the fence, but she has a tendency towards the left, my brother is far left....while I'm very conservative. And we were raised by the same parents. |
| cloudhugger | | (reply to LJD) posted 30-May-2008 5:02pm |
You know as well as most how your negative feelings toward others affect your health. Judgements and criticisms against others can make you sick.
You don't know the pain, what pain you speak of is your pain, poor you. Do you really understand how painful it is to not being able to hold my lover's hand in public, being denyed health care, being denyed my right as an American to be a full part of this country. Being denyed where we choose to live, shop, eat? We are less than the lowest citizen here. We are not recognized as part of community. There are gay people everywhere, and as you know, there's one or two in every family. There are so few options available to live the life we deserve. One of those things we deserve is respect of our loved ones, and the people we do business with.
Why must gay people of any faith be denyed what every citizen has available to them? |
| Frostbrand | | (reply to LJD) posted 30-May-2008 6:11pm |
> What can I say Frosty, you're liberal, anything
> goes.
So, your resposne to my counter argument is to lie about me personally and repeat a sterotype. That's tantamount to admitting you're wrong in a civilized debate.
> But you have to admit, a child can't be
> formed but by the seed of a man, and the egg of
> a woman. That has to say something.
The story of Jesus according to the bible is very similar to the story of Osiris ( http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa2.htm), which predates it by about 2,000 years. That has to say something too. Egypt after all is not far from Palestine, and Jews did live in Egypt; it is not theoretically improbable that they could steal an idea for a Jesus from this place. |
| Biggles | | posted 30-May-2008 8:15pm |
Absolutely. That or banning straight marriage. |
| LJD |
Cloudhugger, I can imagine how you feel. I'm not judging anyone.
Cloudhugger, speaking as a heterosexual woman, I consider marriage very sacred, as God designed. When the homosexual community wants to marry, to me it's as a mockery to what God ordained as a sacred union between a man and woman. God did not ordain marriage as sacred between two men or two women. What kind of rights do married people have that a homosexual couple don't have? As for my family members, I love them dearly, I've never treated them differently than other family members. |
| cloudhugger | | (reply to LJD) posted 31-May-2008 3:36am |
I am speaking to you as a citizen of the US. I don't think other labels are neccesary.
I honor and respect your passion towards your faith. But that is how you live and not how 60% (maybe) of how the rest of Americans do not live. I don't think that laws are fair for Christians and not fair for other God loving, and non-god believing people. The rest of this thread and many others I have seen have already described specifically to you what laws are not provided for the gay community.
I had a discussion with a friend of mine a few weeks ago. He said something about Christians, and I blurted out how close-minded, hateful and judgemental, and selfish they were. He told me he was a Christian and how my views made me the same as 'them'. We talked about how many different types of Christians there were, and he said he was a true Christian. One who respects and does not judges others. One who does not have the need to tell everyone that he is a Christian. One that does not push his beliefs on anyone or tells them how they 'should' live. One who does not curse or damn others to hell for not believing as he does. He had really put me in my place. So I asked him if there was a way to sue other so called Christians for the name back. He laughed and I thanked him for helping me to become a better person. |
| Psychopath | | posted 31-May-2008 6:37pm |
No, I would not. I don't really feel very comfortable with a world where I can't go outside without seeing Joe and John snuggling up all cozy in the park holding hands. I am all in favour of keeping homosexuality in the closet where it belongs. |
| LJD |
Cloudhugger, believe me I understand. It is very difficult for me, having my beliefs, and the love of my daughter and family members. But, my faith has the absolute...that God has....a marriage is a sacred bond between man and woman.. Several years ago, my daughter and her partner at the time, had a wedding...I did not go, and my daughter understood. It didn't change our feelings for each other...I love my daughter with every breath I breathe.
.As a parent, a citizen, a Christian I have to take the high ground, I made a decision....God's absolute.
I may not believe in the lifestyle, but I love the person. Please try to understand my position. |
| Melf |
You know, because Joe and John are acutally planning a way to make your life even worse. That's their main concern, the gays, wrecking society and that. |
| Psychopath | | (reply to Melf) posted 31-May-2008 7:06pm |
Wow, was that sarcasm? Very good! I would not have thought you were capable of this. Congrats  |
| Melf |
You wouldn't have guessed? From all our lengthy discussions about politics and whatnot? |
| Frostbrand |
> No, I would not. I don't really feel very comfortable
> with a world where I can't go outside without
> seeing Joe and John snuggling up all cozy in the
> park holding hands. I am all in favour of keeping
> homosexuality in the closet where it belongs.
OK, experiment time; I want you take that statement, replace John with Jane, and homosexuality with heterosexuality so it looks like this;
> No, I would not. I don't really feel very comfortable
> with a world where I can't go outside without
> seeing Joe and Jane snuggling up all cozy in the
> park holding hands. I am all in favour of keeping
> heterosexuality in the closet where it belongs.
Now, say it out loud. How does it sound to you? Pretty stupid? There ya go, now you know how the rest of us feel. |
| cloudhugger | | (reply to LJD) posted 1-Jun-2008 1:09pm |
I do honor and respect your faith, but as far as your decision to not attend what may be one of the most important days in your daughters life......I cannot understand. It is sad to say the least. |
| jettles |
> why not?
oh good lord do you know what you are asking?????
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| Zang | | posted 3-Jun-2008 11:57pm |
I doubt it, it's all quite legal here. Has been for quite a few years. There was nothing to vote for, it happened in the courts. All it took was for someone to point out that two laws were in conflict and ask for a judgement... more or less... |
| Gomezy3k |
No.. companion law yes..marriage no... |
| docgbrown | | posted 11-Jun-2008 4:53am |
Undecided |
| midagehippie | | posted 6-Jul-2008 10:32am |
why shouldn't gay people have the right to be as miserable as straight people? |
meowry  |
Gay couples get along better than straight couples. It's because they speak the same language. |
