| User | Comment |
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| llamamama | | posted 24-May-2008 6:25pm |
I really would not care.
What that teacher does outside of school is none of my business.
How would I find out? |
Frostbrand   | | posted 24-May-2008 6:25pm |
That depends. Is s/he out of the closet, not ashamed of who they are gay, or closet queen, Larry Craig, resorting to illegal acts to get sex becuase s/he can't be an adult about it gay?
I've no problem whatsoever with homosexuals, people here who know me well know that. Closet queens however, they worry me. |
Enheduanna  | | posted 24-May-2008 7:01pm |
Nothing--or if anything, positive. |
| ausfox | | posted 24-May-2008 7:16pm |
Nothing. It's irrelevant |
| JessicaWoman99 | | posted 24-May-2008 7:36pm |
Probably do nothing with this teacher unless she has crossed the line or something |
Kristal_Rose   | | posted 24-May-2008 8:43pm |
Inconsequential. |
Galomorro  | | posted 24-May-2008 9:42pm |
Nothing. Of no consequence. As long as the teacher is doing a good job, his or her sexual orientation makes absolutely no difference. |
bill  | | posted 24-May-2008 10:15pm |
I'd be happy about it, knowing my child was being exposed to a positive example of someone who happens to be gay/lesbian. |
| romkey | | posted 24-May-2008 10:23pm |
Why should this matter? |
| dilfreak | | posted 24-May-2008 10:30pm |
I would pay closer attention to the teachers actions and if I noticed anything out of the ordinary I would then have my child moved. |
| Crayons | | posted 24-May-2008 10:57pm |
Nothing at all, I would discuss it with my child. Oh, but do the kids know or just the parents? Because you know kids, they think everything is funny. So I would have to make sure at least my little brat is good about it. |
| Psychologo | | posted 25-May-2008 12:35am |
It does not nmatter if they are gay, what matter is if they are petaphiles. |
| cantilever | | posted 25-May-2008 2:44am |
Nothing. A good teacher is a good teacher. Assuming there is no sexuality issues. |
| Pomeranian |
It's true, anybody who might throw blood on your child's fur coat is suspect. |
| Melf | | posted 25-May-2008 7:22am |
No consequence. |
| Melf | | posted 25-May-2008 7:28am |
This reminds me of that episode of The Office
Gareth: "Get his wife to help."
Tim: "He doesn't have a wife."
Gareth: "All farmers have wives."
Tim: "Not this one, he's gay."
Gareth: "Well, then he shouldn't be allowed near animals should he?"
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cloudhugger  | | posted 25-May-2008 7:30am |
here we go...
I would do nothing. |
| cloudhugger | | posted 25-May-2008 7:33am |
To all those who would move their child out of that class....hissssssssssssssss |
gambler  | | posted 25-May-2008 8:24am |
Nothing. Of no consequence. The teacher is doing a good job. |
| they | | posted 25-May-2008 9:40am |
Wow. Some people have a real potential for suck. |
| Gomezy3k | | posted 25-May-2008 10:05am |
Nothing. As long as they don't try to push their lifestyle on my kid, who cares. I have nothing against Homosexuals.. especially two hot lesbians going at it..heh heh.. |
| southernyankee | | posted 25-May-2008 11:23am |
Most likely wouldn't care, unless they're a PE teacher. In that case, it would be a case-by-case type of thing. |
| Psychologo |
I dont get it. |
| Lahdee |
> It's true, anybody who might throw blood
> on your child's fur coat is suspect.
That's hilarious.   |
| RGirl | | posted 25-May-2008 7:47pm |
It is of no consequence. They are doing a good job. But then I'm gay so... |
| RGirl | | (reply to dilfreak) posted 25-May-2008 7:55pm |
Because all gay people are child molesters? Or just the ones that are teachers? What do you mean out of the ordinary? Being sexually attracted to children is completely separate and different than being attracted to adults of the same sex OR of the opposite sex. |
| Enigma | | posted 26-May-2008 12:04am |
Can't say I'd care. |
| kirst | | posted 26-May-2008 10:29am |
Wouldn't care. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with the effectiveness of a teacher. I've worked with some excellent gay and lesbian teachers and with some crap hetero teachers. It's random.
At Claire's current school there are only two classes. The teacher for the other elementary class is gay. Doesn't affect his teaching. It wouldn't bother me if Claire had him as a teacher although if she has to be at this school again next year (which is likely...the school I want her to go to doesn't have any space for her in 3rd grade), I would want Claire to stay with her current teacher to finish the 3 year Montessori cycle. |
| kirst |
Why PE teachers in specific? When I taught in Florida, both coaches at our school were lesbians. (They were not a couple, though. Both are still with their respective partners still: the then executive secretary of the school and the head of the County Sports & Recreation Department.) |
| Iseult | | posted 26-May-2008 10:35am |
If I were to find out my child's teacher was gay, I'd make sure he is sticking to the proper cirriculum instead showing episodes of Sex and the City in class. |
| Frostbrand | | (reply to Iseult) posted 26-May-2008 11:21am |
> I'd make sure he is sticking to the proper cirriculum
> instead showing episodes of Sex and the City in
> class.
Sex and the City? Oh you mean that show about the 3 hookers and their Mom.
 |
| Iseult |
lol |
| dilfreak | | (reply to RGirl) posted 26-May-2008 10:46pm |
I am quite aware of the differences between child attraction and same sex attraction. I am not implying that homosexuals are child molesters. When a teacher has a strong bias towards something, it can have an impact on their teaching; which could lead to the child having the same bias. In other words, if a teacher has a bias towards homosexuality, it could taint the child with the same. I do not agree with homosexuality and as a result would not want my child receiving any kind of indoctrination in favor of homosexuality ( I say "would" because I currently have no children ). Obviously, tolerance should be taught, but i would not want my child coming home thinking it's ok to have same sex attraction. By default, i believe children should be taught heterosexuality. If at a later time when they are adults they choose an alternate persuasion, so be it; at least they will be old enough to make that decision. Obviously human sexuality is not openly discussed in a classroom, however, the teacher's composer, teaching style, idiosyncrasies, etc. could instill homosexual tendencies in a child's fragile mind. |
| southernyankee | | (reply to kirst) posted 26-May-2008 11:27pm |
Because in some schools PE teachers watch their students undress. There's a remote chance that can be a problem. And no, I am not accusing gays of being pedohpiles, as a lot of high school students are around 17 or 18, and even if they're not some people look older than they are. For the most part it would be a non-issue, but theres always that rare case that fudges it up for everyone else. |
| RGirl | | (reply to dilfreak) posted 27-May-2008 12:04am |
Oh, the homosexual agenda. Yeah, I have a lesbian agenda. I'm trying to change all women into lesbians and if I succeed, all men will be put to death or placed into servitude.  I have better things to do and I am sure the teachers do as well, indoctrination? Come on. |
| romkey | | (reply to RGirl) posted 27-May-2008 12:20am |
Remember, convert enough kids and you'll get a toaster! |
| dilfreak | | (reply to RGirl) posted 27-May-2008 12:41am |
So are you saying that it is silly to consider the possibility that a gay teacher could inadvertently influence a child to follow that life style? |
| Frostbrand | | (reply to dilfreak) posted 27-May-2008 1:23am |
> I am quite aware of the differences between child
> attraction and same sex attraction. I am not
> implying that homosexuals are child molesters.
> When a teacher has a strong bias towards something,
> it can have an impact on their teaching; which
> could lead to the child having the same bias.
> In other words, if a teacher has a bias towards
> homosexuality, it could taint the child with the
> same. I do not agree with homosexuality and as
> a result would not want my child receiving any
> kind of indoctrination in favor of homosexuality
> ( I say "would" because I currently have no children
> ). Obviously, tolerance should be taught, but
> i would not want my child coming home thinking
> it's ok to have same sex attraction. By default,
> i believe children should be taught heterosexuality.
> If at a later time when they are adults they
> choose an alternate persuasion, so be it; at least
> they will be old enough to make that decision.
> Obviously human sexuality is not openly discussed
> in a classroom, however, the teacher's composer,
> teaching style, idiosyncrasies, etc. could instill
> homosexual tendencies in a child's fragile mind.
>
Take any of your anti-gay statements. Replace "homoseuxal" with "heterosexual." Then say it aloud. If it sounds stupid, take the hint. |
| Frostbrand | | (reply to dilfreak) posted 27-May-2008 1:25am |
> So are you saying that it is silly to consider
> the possibility that a gay teacher could inadvertently
> influence a child to follow that life style?
Only if you're a complete idiot who doesn't understnad how human sexuality works. If your kid's not gay, having a gay teacher will NOT change that. You might as well live in fear of a black teacher convincing your kids to not be white. Which you probably do, you are an admitted Conservative. Yours was the people who up until 1964 would've wanted to deny me the right to marry a black woman if I so chose. |
| Kristal_Rose |
I do imagine it's possible to influence them to experiment and find out for themselves, which means more converts of the sort who would have closet gays otherwise. I figure that's a good thing. You might also get folks like my daughter who was convinced for awhile that she was lesbian. I think she's since given up the notion. You wouldn't have had too many kids going through that one 40 years ago. If they weren't dead certain, they wouldn't bother adopting the notion.
Every new choice is something to be stressed or confused about, but in general we still prefer having those choices.
Of course I also figure, so what if most everyones gay? We'd be better off with a population 5% of the current anyhow. Wha matters most is peoples happiness. I doubt gay teachers are going to change that any by totally convincing all their students that gay is natural for some (as I believe it is). |
| dilfreak |
Don't stereotype me frostbrand. I am conservative by nature, but i'm not a 1964 conservative.
The difference between our beliefs is you probably believe people are born gay. I on the other hand believe people are born straight, but at some point in there lives veer off course to homosexuality. I'm not saying my child will turn gay from having a gay teacher. I just don't want him/her learning things at a young age that shouldn't be learned until later. A teacher spends hours with their students every day. In many cases the time is more than most parents spend with their children. It is not crazy to think that a teacher during this time could influence a child in a way contrary to the parents beliefs. There's a reason why religion, relationships, and politics are not discussed in a general classroom for young children. I don't want my child influenced by homosexuality for the same reason you would not want your child taught religion by their teacher. |
| dilfreak |
Oh wow, another smart ass remark from frostbrand, who would've guessed... |
| LindaH | | (reply to dilfreak) posted 27-May-2008 11:27am |
> Obviously human sexuality is not openly discussed
> in a classroom, however, the teacher's composer,
> teaching style, idiosyncrasies, etc. could instill
> homosexual tendencies in a child's fragile mind.
>
Do you see a difference between flamboyant (obvious) gays, and ones who don't have mannerisms or teaching styles that 'give them away'?
Most of the time, you can't even tell that a gay person is gay, just like you can't tell whether your teacher prefers blondes. Their preferences aren't going to spill over into the classroom.
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| dilfreak | | (reply to LindaH) posted 27-May-2008 11:55am |
yes there is a difference between flamboyant and non-flamboyant gays. If a teacher did not have mannerisms or teaching styles that 'give them away' then with that I would be fine.
All I am saying in reference to the scenario presented is I would pay closer attention to the teacher's mannerisms and teaching styles to affirm that their preference does not spill over into the classroom. |
| Frostbrand |
Fair point. I've always had this theory that homosexuality is not only natural but actually an evolutionary defense mechanism to try and prevent over-population in the species that experience it (mankind being just one of them). Many species have such defenses, some of which backfired once man started traveling all over the world. Just look at the bizarre mating habits of the Kakapo. |
| Frostbrand | | (reply to dilfreak) posted 27-May-2008 1:31pm |
> Don't stereotype me frostbrand. I am conservative
> by nature, but i'm not a 1964 conservative.
>
Which is a shame actually, cause at least those people were consistent and honest about their beliefs.
> The difference between our beliefs is you probably
> believe people are born gay.
No, I don't beleive it, I'm CONVINCED of it.
> I on the other hand
> believe people are born straight, but at some
> point in there lives veer off course to homosexuality.
Even if this is true, why is it neccesarily a bad thing? And don't try that "unnatural" line again, I already shot it down last week.
> I'm not saying my child will turn gay from having
> a gay teacher. I just don't want him/her learning
> things at a young age that shouldn't be learned
> until later. A teacher spends hours with their
> students every day. In many cases the time is
> more than most parents spend with their children.
> It is not crazy to think that a teacher during
> this time could influence a child in a way contrary
> to the parents beliefs. There's a reason why
> religion, relationships, and politics are not
> discussed in a general classroom for young children.
> I don't want my child influenced by homosexuality
> for the same reason you would not want your child
> taught religion by their teacher.
Well then we shouldn't teach heterosexuality by default like you said either. |
| Frostbrand | | (reply to dilfreak) posted 27-May-2008 1:32pm |
> Oh wow, another smart ass remark from frostbrand,
> who would've guessed...
Better a smart-ass than a dumb-ass. |
| kirst |
Oh. |
| kcthedog | | posted 27-May-2008 7:52pm |
WTH! Gay as in not straight? I would not care one way or the other as long as they were good teachers.
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| cloudhugger | | (reply to dilfreak) posted 28-May-2008 12:04am |
I'm sorry, but that is so retarded what you said. All of it. |
| Kristal_Rose |
I'll buy that. I don't even know what a Kakapo is. What's their story? |
| Kristal_Rose | | (reply to dilfreak) posted 28-May-2008 8:36am |
I see you noticed something I was about to comment on, that teachers don't mention their relationships anyhow. I wouldn't have known if any of my teachers were gay or straight. A couple of them mentioned neighbors when it served to illustrate a point. They did mention a lot of global awareness with a political slant though. I had a couple teachers back around '77-'80 saying we'd be in a big fuel crisis and that society would have to adapt to the notion that not everyone who went to college would be assured to own a home. I guess that transpired though without anyone even noticing it hadn't always been that way. I did just because of that teacher, realized my career position was just like my fathers (a customization mechanic), and yet he owned a home, camper, and boat, and I was renting and barely affording pizza at the same age, and spoke English better than German. |
| verouge | | posted 28-May-2008 9:24am |
Go and date him... For the best of my child! |
| Frostbrand |
The kakapo is the world's largest, fattest, and least able to fly parrot. It existed only in New Zealan.d Liek amny of New Zealand's bird, they evolved without natural predators for thousands of years until man came with dogs, and cats, etc. So, beucase there was no natural predator, the birds had to evolve otehr mechanisms to prevent overpopulation because a widlly fluctuating population (way up, then way down, then way up again) makes a species incredibly vulnerable to extinction. So the kakapo developed an extremely odd mating habit, not disimilar to that of idiots in discotecques. http://www.kcc.org.nz/birds/kakapo/booming.asp The problem is sometimes, by the time a female shows up, the male is gone. It's also not uncommon for females to turn up at the wrong bowl. |
| Kristal_Rose |
Those must be the same kiwi (NZ, not the bird) flightless parrots which spend all day hiking miles up the mountain tops. A link to idiots in discotecques may have been more entertaining. |
| dilfreak |
ok |
| icurok | | (reply to RGirl) posted 29-May-2008 11:51am |
So you've never been a member of The Furies Collective then?  |
| moviesnob | | posted 30-May-2008 10:55am |
Who cares? I wouldn't do anything. |
| Psychopath | | posted 31-May-2008 7:27pm |
My child will be attending Catholic school. According to the Bible, which Catholicism is based on, homosexuality is disgusting and grotesque. Therefore, I would say that the teacher has no business in the school. Let me explain that the teacher should be the example for the pupils so if the teacher is gay than they are not a suitable example for kids who have been sent by their parents to be taught the Catholic lifestyle. I know this will offend many who hate freedom of speech on this site, but so be it. |
| Melf |
Nobody hates freedom of speech. We just hate ignorance. |
| Psychopath | | (reply to Melf) posted 31-May-2008 8:31pm |
Who is "we". Do you now speak for the entire world? Why don't you say "I" hate ignorance. You are not the spokesman for the world...sorry to break to you. Also, is it you who decide who is ignorant and who is not? You seem to have a very high opinion of yourself.
It was an open survey and I gave my opinion (not the entire world's like you). I am sorry that you (or should I say "we") feel that my opinion is ignorant. |
| Melf |
Oh, god, I'd hate to be the spokesman of the world. I was speaking for the people of SC (I apologise if there are any objections to what I said).
'I am sorry that you (or should I say "we") feel that my opinion is ignorant.'
No, you shouldn't say 'we', because that renders the sentence nonsensical.
So, are you going to address the issue or just talk your way around it? |
| Psychopath | | (reply to Melf) posted 31-May-2008 8:40pm |
Well, I am not sure you can speak for ALL the people of SC. Maybe some, but not all. I am not sure what the issue is...are we debating? I gave an opinion, you didn't like it, and then made a comment about me being ignorant because I do not hold your (or according to you, SC's) opinion. So what do you want? |
| RGirl | | (reply to dilfreak) posted 1-Jun-2008 7:25pm |
Yes, it is silly. People are gay because they are gay, not because they had a gay drama teacher. And a kid who is gay isn't going to grow up straight because all his teachers were straight. It doesn't work that way. |
| Zang |
I have no children and I seriously doubt I ever will. Hypothetically, I can't see this issue being of any interest to me. Besides, how would I "discover" this? Even if I saw my child's teacher having lesbian/gay sex on one occasion, doesn't necessarily mean they do that exclusively. Maybe they were just trying it. |
| southernyankee |
>
> |> The difference between our beliefs is you probably
> |> believe people are born gay.
>
> No, I don't beleive it, I'm CONVINCED of it.
Although to play devil's advocate, I've heard / read somewheres that supposedly most people are bisexual, at least to some degree. So then there really is no such thing as a 100% gay person as everyone supposedly has some attraction to each sex. I can see that in certain edge cases, you'd have people who are geninunly bi in which case it will come down to free will which way they'll go, although they'd be a small sector of the population.
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| southernyankee |
"Fair point. I've always had this theory that homosexuality is not only natural but actually an evolutionary defense mechanism to try and prevent over-population in the species that experience it (mankind being just one of them)."
I can buy that. Although I am more inclined to think that the species can just adjust its male-female ratio. For instance, on the order of 5 to 1. Although human beings / other intelligent species can always do this artifically (think India). I've always figured that homosexuality would just an example of gene splicing, eg: similar to being able to have blond hair but brown eyes or vice versa. Besides, gayness by itself wouldn't be enough to control population. Men having sexual attraction to other men wouldn't cause a population decline. It would be the lack of sexual attraction to women that would do that. |
| Kristal_Rose |
Uh, it's one thing to abstain from human reproduction, and something quite more drastic to shift gender ratios. Do you propose gendercide, or just genetic breeding? |
| southernyankee |
No, I meant the species would naturally have those ratios. And no I am not advocating it, just pointing out that we already do it (think India's sex selection infantcide of girls). |
| Kristal_Rose |
Oh, got you. Ok, that's cool. I think the gender ratio shift might just cause the same gender preference shift anyhow though.
I designed a wild steam/hydrogen/electric/gas bicycle derigible. It's problem was that it would take 90 days of pedaling at40 liter per hour to electrolyse the hydrogen required for 9m flying sauce wing balloon. The outer envelope would be steam, also lighter than air, to maintain H2 leaks up to 12%.
I ordered a prop and 2.7Hp electric motor for my front wheel. To fly though, I'll have to get a tandem paraglider and settle with a 20Hp gas motor with prop on the rear.
I gave up on the solar in transit but came up with folding archery-bowed targeting parabolas (with self-aiming mechanisms) to drive the steam to recharge the batteries when parked at least.
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| cloudhugger |
OK, let me see if I can help
You said " I know this will offend many who hate freedom of speech on this site, but so be it."
Which really gives me the idea that you are making an assumption that SC are ignorant haters. That comment kinda pissed me off a little bit. You lumped me into your ignorant assumption.
And Melf said "Nobody hates freedom of speech. We just hate ignorance."
So it seems to me that your comment judged and assumed that the collective on this sight are haters of free speech, and Melf was telling you that SC is a collective of not haters, I agree.
And than you said "Well, I am not sure you can speak for ALL the people of SC. Maybe some, but not all. I am not sure what the issue is...are we debating? I gave an opinion, you didn't like it, and then made a comment about me being ignorant because I do not hold your (or according to you, SC's) opinion. So what do you want?"
If you need further proof that the collective of users on this site are non haters and do like a good bout of free speech do a search and pull up any surveys you want and see what SC can be identified with. Or you can hang out for a year and see who we are, collectively and such. Assumptions about what we think or how we think it is ignorant if it isn't accurate.
And a debate here on this subject wouldn't last long at all, I can see that it isn't a fair argument. I'm not sticking up for Melf, I am backing her statement., because I am a part of this community...all are welcome. |
| Kristal_Rose | | posted 10-Jun-2008 4:28am |
I speak for most SCers here. We wear foil hats (cleverly disguised as thermal protection or parafoil habits), live in basements or trees, save the world with our comments, and tend to have a great fondness for flying fish. |
| Biggles |
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| Kristal_Rose | | (reply to Biggles) posted 11-Jun-2008 3:40am |
Wow, that was awesome!
Ads on internet video clips; why didn't I see that coming? ...and the ad:content ratio is much worse that TV. |
| Biggles |
What ads? It's the BBC - it doesn't have any adverts (except for its own programming) - or does it if you're watching outside the UK? |
| Kristal_Rose | | (reply to Biggles) posted 12-Jun-2008 1:38am |
It sure does. The first time I was wondering if it was even the right page because the flying-fish clip was preceded by a car commercial. The second time I played it it began with a video commercial for something else. Like a 30 second commercial to watch a 60 sec. video. You Brits are spoiled in many ways. |
| Biggles |
That's a pity  |
