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Melf     | | posted 15-May-2008 4:22pm |
As I said in qual, he didn't call the Electra complex such. I don't agree with him. If you don't know it's Freud, it just sounds like trendy psychological Darwinismus. |
LJD  | | posted 15-May-2008 5:37pm |
Sick, Freud was sick.... |
LindaH  | | posted 15-May-2008 6:28pm |
No. I think Freud had a few decent theories, but for the most part, he was a quack. |
Galomorro   | | posted 15-May-2008 7:14pm |
No -- I consider all that to be a bunch of doo-doo. |
Biggles  | | posted 15-May-2008 7:18pm |
I think Freud was wrong about a lot of things... |
southernyankee  | | posted 15-May-2008 9:03pm |
No, he was a COMPLETE quack, and one of the biggest douchebags in science of all time on top of that. Come to think of it, people that later borrowed from him were pretty useless as well (this includes Eric Ericson, Karl Jung, Adler, and to a much smaller extent Maslov). Popular culture would have you believe(*) that these people are all guninues, but pretty much everyone in the field, save for a few old fart professors who universities can't get rid of because they have tenture(* *), knows that they're irrelvant. Modern day psychology shys away from all of them.
(*) Remember what George Carlin said: "think how dumb the average person is. Half the people are dumber than that." Yup, thats YOU allright. Off course just because the Sopranoes say something doesn't mean its true. Only complete morons, which apparantly inlcudes most people, buy into his theories because they don't know any better.
(* *) Just because someone has a college degree does not automatically follow that they're intelligent. Not by a long shot. |
southernyankee  | | posted 15-May-2008 9:04pm |
Hym, looks I am wrong. People seem to agree that he doesn't know what he's talking about. I didn't expect 9 NO votes. |
southernyankee  | | (reply to LJD) posted 15-May-2008 9:06pm |
Wow, you're actually right on something. Welcome to the world of common sense. |
southernyankee  | | (reply to Biggles) posted 15-May-2008 9:07pm |
Well, that's sure an understatement. |
Frostbrand  | | posted 15-May-2008 9:15pm |
Well, no, in so far as oeidpus didn't actually WANT to kill his father and marry his mother, that just happened through a series of tragic and ironic events. (Yes, I've read the play). |
Enheduanna  | | posted 15-May-2008 9:18pm |
No. I think he was onto something when he noticed that dynamics between parents and children differ by gender, but I think his theory is mostly a load of crap. |
Psychologo   |
Your rigth, the real Oedipus did not want to, and if the psychic had keept his mouth shut about the vision non of it would have happen, (yes i read the play) . |
Iseult  | | posted 16-May-2008 2:18am |
No. |
| CarlHalling | | posted 16-May-2008 7:28am |
No. I don't believe there's any truth in this theory whatsoever, which is not to minimize Freud's brilliance. However, I do believe that excessively strong attachments to one or other parent can and do exist, needless to say in fact. |
romkey    | | posted 16-May-2008 8:31am |
I think that people are very varied, and that this is an accurate description of only a very few of them |
| Jody | | posted 16-May-2008 9:28am |
I don't think the killing part is true, but I do notice that people often seek the same qualities in a mate that they appreciated in their opposite-gender parent. |
llamamama  | | posted 17-May-2008 1:09am |
I really have no desire to marry my father..nor do I have any desire to get blood under my nails.
But what do I know, right? Maybe I do have some deep desire to marry my father.
Ok seriously, I just threw up a little. Incest makes me queasy.. |
Psychologo   | | (reply to llamamama) posted 17-May-2008 12:54pm |
The theory is talking about 2 year old, when the most important person of the other sex in a childs life is the parent, so I dought it applys to you. |
llamamama  |
Oh, I know. I was kidding. |
Psychologo   | | (reply to llamamama) posted 18-May-2008 4:50am |
Sorry, I should have known |
LJD  |
 I know I have common sense, and I'm right on many things Southern Yankee, I've been around a lot longer than you, have many more life experiences.... |
llamamama  |
Oh no, it's all good. |
southernyankee  | | (reply to LJD) posted 18-May-2008 10:19pm |
"I know I have common sense,"
Well, thats certainly debatable.
"I've been around a lot longer than you, have many more life experiences...."
I don't get hows that revelant. Old age doesn't automatically mean smarter. Don't forget. All the old hippies still around are mostly your age. May want to rethink your "older = wiser" position. Also, if I am not mistanken, isn't John Mccain older than you. You're certainly no fan of his.
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LJD  |
Not so SouthernYankee, the old hippies are about 20 to 25 years younger than I am. I am going on 69 years old.
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Frostbrand  | | (reply to LJD) posted 18-May-2008 11:53pm |
> Not so SouthernYankee, the old hippies are about
> 20 to 25 years younger than I am. I am going
> on 69 years old.
>
My grandmother is in her late 60s as well, and she's even more liberal than I am on many issues, and that's saying something. Considering your "thoguhts" on liberals, doesn't that poke a hole in your argument?
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LindaH  | | (reply to LJD) posted 19-May-2008 12:50am |
The old hippies are in their 60s now. Someone college aged (in their 20s) in the late 1960s would be in their late 50s and early 60s now. Not much younger than you. |
LJD  |
Frostbrand, no, it doesn't. What level of education was your grandmother? |
LJD  | | (reply to LindaH) posted 19-May-2008 1:58am |
Let's say, they're younger than me. To me, they were a misguided bunch. |
Frostbrand  | | (reply to LJD) posted 19-May-2008 2:21am |
She graduated high school, but never went to college. |
LJD  |
Thank you Frostbrand. |
Frostbrand  | | (reply to LJD) posted 19-May-2008 2:25am |
For answering the question? Um sure. It's not like it's a rare thing for me, so I don't see why this one deserved any particular thanks. |
Kristal_Rose  | | posted 19-May-2008 4:35am |
For some perhaps, but I have to vote 'sicko'. It surely never interested me. On the other hand I can admit to having had some interest in the other genealogical direction, but fortunately heartfelt reality prevailed over fabricated fantasy.
Wait, I take some of that back. I never had any interest in the Oedipus thing from my masculine side, but I have had some Electra fantasies on my feminine side. That may have been different if I actually knew my father. He died in Vietnam, sort of. |
RGirl  | | posted 19-May-2008 8:47pm |
Freud was a perv. No really, read about him and his daughter and tell me about complexes. |
cloudhugger    |
What about the kid that chops up the parent and stuffs them in the freezer? |