As I said in qual, he didn't call the Electra complex such. I don't agree with him. If you don't know it's Freud, it just sounds like trendy psychological Darwinismus.

Sick, Freud was sick....

No. I think Freud had a few decent theories, but for the most part, he was a quack.

No -- I consider all that to be a bunch of doo-doo.

I think Freud was wrong about a lot of things...

No, he was a COMPLETE quack, and one of the biggest douchebags in science of all time on top of that. Come to think of it, people that later borrowed from him were pretty useless as well (this includes Eric Ericson, Karl Jung, Adler, and to a much smaller extent Maslov). Popular culture would have you believe(*) that these people are all guninues, but pretty much everyone in the field, save for a few old fart professors who universities can't get rid of because they have tenture(* *), knows that they're irrelvant. Modern day psychology shys away from all of them.


(*) Remember what George Carlin said: "think how dumb the average person is. Half the people are dumber than that." Yup, thats YOU allright. Off course just because the Sopranoes say something doesn't mean its true. Only complete morons, which apparantly inlcudes most people, buy into his theories because they don't know any better.

(* *) Just because someone has a college degree does not automatically follow that they're intelligent. Not by a long shot.

Hym, looks I am wrong. People seem to agree that he doesn't know what he's talking about. I didn't expect 9 NO votes.

Wow, you're actually right on something. Welcome to the world of common sense.

Well, that's sure an understatement.

Well, no, in so far as oeidpus didn't actually WANT to kill his father and marry his mother, that just happened through a series of tragic and ironic events. (Yes, I've read the play).

No. I think he was onto something when he noticed that dynamics between parents and children differ by gender, but I think his theory is mostly a load of crap.

Your rigth, the real Oedipus did not want to, and if the psychic had keept his mouth shut about the vision non of it would have happen, (yes i read the play) .

No.

No. I don't believe there's any truth in this theory whatsoever, which is not to minimize Freud's brilliance. However, I do believe that excessively strong attachments to one or other parent can and do exist, needless to say in fact.

I think that people are very varied, and that this is an accurate description of only a very few of them

I don't think the killing part is true, but I do notice that people often seek the same qualities in a mate that they appreciated in their opposite-gender parent.

I really have no desire to marry my father..nor do I have any desire to get blood under my nails.
But what do I know, right? Maybe I do have some deep desire to marry my father.
Ok seriously, I just threw up a little. Incest makes me queasy..

The theory is talking about 2 year old, when the most important person of the other sex in a childs life is the parent, so I dought it applys to you.

Oh, I know. I was kidding.

Sorry, I should have known

I know I have common sense, and I'm right on many things Southern Yankee, I've been around a lot longer than you, have many more life experiences....

Oh no, it's all good.

"I know I have common sense,"

Well, thats certainly debatable.


"I've been around a lot longer than you, have many more life experiences...."

I don't get hows that revelant. Old age doesn't automatically mean smarter. Don't forget. All the old hippies still around are mostly your age. May want to rethink your "older = wiser" position. Also, if I am not mistanken, isn't John Mccain older than you. You're certainly no fan of his.

Not so SouthernYankee, the old hippies are about 20 to 25 years younger than I am. I am going on 69 years old.

> Not so SouthernYankee, the old hippies are about
> 20 to 25 years younger than I am. I am going
> on 69 years old.
>

My grandmother is in her late 60s as well, and she's even more liberal than I am on many issues, and that's saying something. Considering your "thoguhts" on liberals, doesn't that poke a hole in your argument?

The old hippies are in their 60s now. Someone college aged (in their 20s) in the late 1960s would be in their late 50s and early 60s now. Not much younger than you.

Frostbrand, no, it doesn't. What level of education was your grandmother?

Let's say, they're younger than me. To me, they were a misguided bunch.

She graduated high school, but never went to college.

Thank you Frostbrand.

For answering the question? Um sure. It's not like it's a rare thing for me, so I don't see why this one deserved any particular thanks.

For some perhaps, but I have to vote 'sicko'. It surely never interested me. On the other hand I can admit to having had some interest in the other genealogical direction, but fortunately heartfelt reality prevailed over fabricated fantasy.

Wait, I take some of that back. I never had any interest in the Oedipus thing from my masculine side, but I have had some Electra fantasies on my feminine side. That may have been different if I actually knew my father. He died in Vietnam, sort of.

Freud was a perv. No really, read about him and his daughter and tell me about complexes.

What about the kid that chops up the parent and stuffs them in the freezer?

I abstain.

> The old hippies are in their 60s now. Someone
> college aged (in their 20s) in the late 1960s
> would be in their late 50s and early 60s
> now. Not much younger than you.

Easy on the fudging old "HIPPIES!"

sorry. mature hippies
wait, that wont apply to you either. hmmm.
*runs hides*

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