| User | Comment |
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Melf    | | posted 24-Apr-2008 2:42pm |
When I do follow them, it's because there's a good reason for them. I can't imagine why else I would. |
LindaH     | | posted 24-Apr-2008 2:53pm |
I don't follow laws or rules. I follow my conscience. Most of the time, my conscience lines up with the rules, so it's no different than "following" the rules, in a sense. I do what I believe is the right thing to do. I have no desire to do things that are "wrong" by my own ethics.
I disregard rules that I believe are wrong, arbitrary, unfair, and/or made for reasons that don't apply to me. |
| thecomic22 | | posted 24-Apr-2008 3:06pm |
Better safe than sorry. |
| southernyankee | | posted 24-Apr-2008 3:19pm |
I follow most rules because either of 1) consequences (eg: jail, fines, people getting excessively angry at you, getting kicked out of places, you don't want to crash your car in an accident, safety, etc) or 2) because of some moral reasons (eg: stealing or hurting someone hurts that person, if you break one stupid rule thats a slippery slope to anarchy, etc).
Usually I try to balance my respect for law and order / decorum and my sense of right/wrong or not following silly rules. |
| southernyankee | | posted 24-Apr-2008 3:20pm |
I could of swore this was gonna be another Linda survey. |
| Enheduanna | | posted 24-Apr-2008 3:21pm |
I follow a lot of them, but not all of them. I follow them because that is how society works. I receive numerous benefits from being a member of society, and in return I follow various social rules. I like society and want it to keep functioning, which won't happen if people don't follow the rules. Of course, I want society to grow and change in positive ways as well, which is why I don't follow rules that I think are bad rules. Change has to come from within, which means that being a good member of society strengthens my ability to try to change it for the better. |
| Torrie18 | | posted 24-Apr-2008 3:22pm |
ha ha ha...i'm not a good girl, just ask aquawolfy |
| Galomorro | | posted 24-Apr-2008 3:41pm |
I follow them mainly because it's just common sense, polite behavior in public, or to do my part in taking care of the environment (like not littering in the parks, etc.) You give up your seat on public transport for people with physical disabilities or the aged. If someone doesn't do this, you'd think they were rude (I ride public transport a lot). I'm sure if I was to think long enough I could think of lots more reasons and examples. |
| JessicaWoman99 | | posted 24-Apr-2008 4:22pm |
I am not sure what you mean here , but I do follow rules or call them laws because it is the right thing to do and for
our safety |
| ausfox | | posted 24-Apr-2008 5:26pm |
I follow them 'cos dem da rules |
| moviesnob | | posted 24-Apr-2008 6:10pm |
I usually follow them because they're there for a reason! |
gambler  | | posted 24-Apr-2008 6:47pm |
Yea, I do.......... Most times its for safety or security ........Here I will often question them and make a joke of it |
| verouge | | posted 24-Apr-2008 7:17pm |
I do follow most of the rules put by the government because some of them are really to make our life easier, the other rules I follow them because I dont wana more taxes to pay to the government..
Although I believe in that "Rules are made not to be followed" but I cant apply this on all rules... |
| verouge | | (reply to Torrie18) posted 24-Apr-2008 7:20pm |
> ha ha ha...i'm not a good girl, just ask aquaWOLFy
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| LindaH | | (reply to verouge) posted 24-Apr-2008 7:48pm |
> I do follow most of the rules put by the government
> because some of them are really to make our life
> easier, the other rules I follow them because
> I dont wana more taxes to pay to the government..
>
> Although I believe in that "Rules are made not
> to be followed" but I cant apply this on all rules...
I think so too. Some rules were made to prevent worse crimes and dishonesty, but those rules keep honest people from doing harmless things. These are the rules that are meant to be broken.
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| verouge | | (reply to LindaH) posted 24-Apr-2008 8:03pm |
> |> I do follow most of the rules put by the government
> |> because some of them are really to make our life
> |> easier, the other rules I follow them because
> |> I dont wana more taxes to pay to the government..
> |>
> |> Although I believe in that "Rules are made not
> |> to be followed" but I cant apply this on all rules...
>
> I think so too. Some rules were made to prevent worse crimes and dishonesty,
> but those rules keep honest people from doing harmless things. These
> are the rules that are meant to be broken.
>
They are meant to be broken, but when they are broken, we got punished.. So it's like playing in a closed circle...
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| kcthedog | | posted 24-Apr-2008 8:09pm |
Yes I usually follow the rules but there are exceptions. Why? Because like everybody else I am a social robot, and because the alternative is anarchy! |
| kcthedog |
> I could of swore this was gonna be another
> Linda survey.
 |
| LindaH | | (reply to verouge) posted 24-Apr-2008 8:22pm |
You only get punished if you get caught  |
| LindaH |
I would have had more options. The word "follow" seems too much like "being led" by them to me. I think most reasonable people aren't led by the rules, but their conscience happens to line up with most rules. I feel sorry for anyone who is so morally confused that they need the rules as something to "follow." |
| southernyankee | | (reply to verouge) posted 24-Apr-2008 11:41pm |
Just curious, you weren't specific if you were talking about written laws and policies verses unwritten social rules. |
| southernyankee | | posted 25-Apr-2008 12:21am |
Interestingly enough, for those of you my fellow cheapskates who don't pay SC subscription and have Google ads, theres these Aspere's Syndrome ads for this survey enough though there aren't any direct key words related to the topic. Hey, didn't someone earlier accuse / diagnose Linda of Aspere's for her "anarchistic" behavior, dealing with this exact type of thing.
Or are the ads just a carry over from that other survey, as in the Google ad system keeps track of the entire site not just this page. |
| LindaH |
No. I have Asperger's. It was more obvious during childhood and teen years. There's a little bit of confusion/not reading cues or emotions now, but not too much. It's not a really big deal at all anymore.
I don't have anarchistic behavior. Some minor rule breaking, but that has to do with my beliefs. It has nothing to do with Asperger's.
(Unwritten social rules are just asking to get broken.) |
| southernyankee | | (reply to LindaH) posted 25-Apr-2008 1:32am |
Well, I was actually gonna have a smart ass blog dedicated to refuting most of what psychologists have to say. That test would have been a perfect example.
Hym, Asperger's by definition means you aren't aware of social rules. Eg: you're a white girl during the 50's at prom night dancing with some black dude and then walking by a black neighborhood with a couple black women staring at you. Having strong beliefs means being doing what you were going to do anyway. Having Asperger's means not even being aware why what you are doing is a huge no-no, at least for your surroundings. Same for if the Queen of England walks by and you don't recognize that you were supposed to bow. Not realizing that you are expected is different from just not doing it. Off course you already know all this, why and I telling you.
(Unwritten social rules are just asking to get broken.)
I can't disagree with that one. |
bill  | | posted 25-Apr-2008 8:21am |
usually out of consideration for others... the golden rule and all that |
| jettles | | posted 25-Apr-2008 8:46am |
i usually follow rules and mostly because they pertain to safety issues. i try to follow most of the rules at work because i am suppose to and secondly it keeps things orderly. some of the work rules are ridiculous and those i don't necessarily follow |
| cloudhugger | | posted 25-Apr-2008 9:20am |
Depends on the rule. If it involves high speeds, other personalities involved in those high speeds, and cameras I follow the rrules becasue sometimes rules are made for darn good reasons.
If the rules were made for the selfish, incompetent, and mean people, I kinda skip the rules. Unless of course they involved cameras.
I used to break rules all the time, because I could. Now, being older, I don't break as many becasue it's less complicated. It takes up too much time to look over my shoulder and be that creative. |
| LindaH |
I think some people with Asperger's can pick up on some social cues, especially as they get older. Some never do. A kid (or even teen) with Asperger's might not know to bow at the queen.
I, personally wouldn't know how to explain it. Read a bit about kids with Asperger's, to get a better idea of it. Adults begin to fit in and appear normal (well, some of us) with only a few residual quirks. |
| cerealkiller | | posted 25-Apr-2008 1:36pm |
Rules are followed to get along in society. |
| LindaH | | (reply to kcthedog) posted 25-Apr-2008 2:38pm |
What do you mean by "social robot"? |
| aquawolfy | | posted 25-Apr-2008 3:46pm |
It depends on the rule. If I believe the rule is completely ridiculous then No I most certainly will not follow the rule. It is, in a sense, a form of protest, showing your feelings towards that rule. Other rules, of course I will follow. Why? Simply because if we don't follow those rules life may become miserable for us and I guess I feel that it just isn't worth the trouble to break that rule. Rules are, after all, just a form of control. |
| kcthedog | | (reply to LindaH) posted 25-Apr-2008 5:01pm |
I am surprised that you didn’t understand, to me the description conjures an image of a person in society following directions and the rules as if being controlled robotically, doing things without much thought. I know that it may be a belittling term but I think that rules and laws are in place and most of us in society just go along without to much thought about the validity of “the rules”. The exceptions I mentioned come about when the rules have an effect on my personal freedoms in an adverse manner. Not that I break the law just because I don’t like it but until it affects me personally I just go along. I do not like conflict and most nonconformists I know have more conflict in their lives then I prefer, so I take the path of least resistance. The anarchy part comes in when nobody follows the rules or just goes about making them up as they go along. I see rules in general as similar as driving on public roads in a city or even urban areas. With out driving laws and rules like stopping at intersections, or driving on the right side of the street or speed laws, a lot of people would get hurt or die. I do not have a problem with “rules” in general they are meant to benefit society and meant to allow large populations get along with each other. I know your idea on the “rules” and that is fine for you but not everybody is pure at heart and able to have good self control as you. Everybody needs to be on the same page and that is defined in the form of rules and laws. |
| LindaH | | (reply to kcthedog) posted 25-Apr-2008 5:10pm |
I don't think most people are being controlled and "going along" to get along. I think most people's ideas of right and wrong just so happen to match up. We are on the same page, because most of us happen to share the same standards about fairness, peace, wrong and right. There are a few deviations from those standards on the part of harmless, peace loving people, but not enough to matter. Society won't fall apart because a few people here and there want to do some things that make others uncomfortable.
I think about the validity of rules. I'm totally consciously aware of them. I don't consider myself a robotic "follower" of them. I am in line with them, because I have the same line of reasoning as the people who made them. |
| kcthedog | | (reply to LindaH) posted 25-Apr-2008 8:06pm |
> I don't think most people are being controlled
> and "going along" to get along. I think most
> people's ideas of right and wrong just
> so happen to match up. We are on the same
> page, because most of us happen to share
> the same standards about fairness, peace,
> wrong and right. There are a few deviations
> from those standards on the part of harmless,
> peace loving people, but not enough to matter.
> Society won't fall apart because a few people
> here and there want to do some things that
> make others uncomfortable.
> I think about the validity of rules. I'm
> totally consciously aware of them. I don't
> consider myself a robotic "follower" of them.
> I am in line with them, because I have
> the same line of reasoning as the people
> who made them.
You have a good point, but I do not think that most people have the same perspective that you do. We have had several conversations on similar topics, and I always have the thought that you have never “lived” or better phrased “survived” in the big city. You have admitted you have lived where you live all your life short of maybe six months in England, and some vacations out of your area. Granted Anchorage is considered a city but not on the scale of New York or Los Angeles, being on the streets where there are some real nut cases walking around. Without control over the populous anarchy would prevail. I do not think of myself as being controlled but in reality we are, if you do not believe me break the law. I know you have no desire to break the law subsequently you will never feel the control that is really upon you. Most people know that there is control and that is why most people follow the rules, they do not want the conflict any more than I do that will come if they break the rules.
Here is an easy one for you if you believe your conscience will protect you walk down a major boulevard naked! Your body belongs to you and you aren’t hurting anybody and according to you people should just not pay attention to “harmless, odd behavior”. My guess is you may get arrested (let me know when and where so I can bail you out  ) even though you are not hurting anyone. Your approach to how you deal with the outside world may work in Alaska but not in Chicago or even Miami.
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| LindaH | | (reply to kcthedog) posted 25-Apr-2008 9:06pm |
"I know you have no desire to break the law subsequently you will never feel the control that is really upon you."
That's exactly what my "do anything you want survey" is about. Get rid of a desire to do wrong, and you won't feel controlled by the law. Ask career criminals (who repeatedly get caught) how 'controlled' they feel.
I don't desire to walk down the street naked. (Though I do wish we were more lax about nudity.) I don't think your conscience can prevent you from getting caught. I'm lucky enough that most of the things I want to do that are against the rules are pretty inconspicuous. |
| kcthedog | | (reply to LindaH) posted 25-Apr-2008 9:09pm |
Oh darn! I was so counting on bailing you out! |
| kcthedog | | (reply to LindaH) posted 25-Apr-2008 9:11pm |
Oh by the way I will be in the state of Washington next weekend, if you want to meet me half way I'll buy you a cup of coffee!  |
| LindaH | | (reply to kcthedog) posted 25-Apr-2008 9:24pm |
There's no way I could get to Washington. I wish. |
| kcthedog | | (reply to LindaH) posted 25-Apr-2008 10:35pm |
Well, I will visit my brother one day and your door bell will ring and there I will be............! |
| LindaH | | (reply to kcthedog) posted 25-Apr-2008 10:39pm |
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| kcthedog | | (reply to LindaH) posted 25-Apr-2008 10:42pm |
>
You think I am kidding? |
| LindaH | | (reply to kcthedog) posted 25-Apr-2008 10:53pm |
No, I think you're funny. |
| kcthedog | | (reply to LindaH) posted 25-Apr-2008 11:22pm |
Is that good? |
| kcthedog | | (reply to LindaH) posted 25-Apr-2008 11:41pm |
OK stop it! |
| Van | | posted 26-Apr-2008 5:17pm |
I follow rules because in most cases there are very good reasons those rules are in place. At the school I attend there are some very specific rules that if ignored or broken could cause things to end up badly. |
| Crayons | | posted 26-Apr-2008 10:37pm |
I don't want to get in trouble! |
| verouge |
in this reply I am talking about the unwritten ones, but in the survey I meant both ones. |
| verouge | | (reply to LindaH) posted 27-Apr-2008 6:58pm |
> You only get punished if you get caught
hahahaha...
And if u didnt get caught you punish urself from inside
or no? |
| LindaH | | (reply to verouge) posted 27-Apr-2008 7:08pm |
Not if you don't agree with the rule in the first place. I don't feel the least bit guilty about breaking rules that shouldn't exist. |
| verouge | | (reply to LindaH) posted 27-Apr-2008 7:35pm |
Well this you're right about it... You did convince me.. |
| Enigma | | posted 29-Apr-2008 11:59pm |
I mostly follow the rules but not exclusively. Why would I want to trod on the tulips or drive the wrong way down the road? |
| Melf | | (reply to LindaH) posted 30-Apr-2008 12:11pm |
Do you realise that the rules are as they are because they line up with people's consciences, not the other way round? |
| LindaH | | (reply to Melf) posted 30-Apr-2008 12:53pm |
It goes both ways. People should still sit back and think about whether or not certain rules are reasonable. I don't like the word "follow" when it comes to being in sync with most rules though. It sounds too much like going along with them just because they are there. I'm not controlled by them, and I'm not "self controlled" because of them. I live an honest, ethical life. I don't need to defer to rules. |
| Torrie18 | | (reply to verouge) posted 30-Apr-2008 3:03pm |
did you ask her? |
| ballin1000 |
I don't caus eim bad bad to da bone |
| verouge | | (reply to Torrie18) posted 2-May-2008 4:37am |
Not yet.. But I'm gona ask her soon..  |
| southernyankee | | (reply to LindaH) posted 11-May-2008 8:25pm |
So then you NO LONGER have Asperger's. You HAD Asperger's. |
| LindaH |
I guess. It all depends on how it is defined. I haven't read about it in so long, I forget the details. If it's a neurological thing, someone would always have it. They just adapt with it. |
| southernyankee | | (reply to LindaH) posted 11-May-2008 10:49pm |
Well, if you sprain your leg but then it heals, its no longer sprained. One would think that logic would apply to psychology as well. But apparently one would be wrong. No, according to psychologists, once you have something, you have it for life. Once you're in the system, you're in the system. |
| LindaH |
It depends. If it is neurological (brain chemistry) based, then yeah, you always have it. |
| cuteid | | posted 16-Aug-2008 12:46am |
I never follow any rules |
