Do you feel there should be a law against interracial marriage as there once was?

I don't see anything in Joshua 23 about interracial marriages being wrong. It’s more of a command towards the Israelites and it’s really to keep them from serving other gods.

Does the country from which you are posting have a constitutional separation of church and state?

I don't believe it's wrong.

Even if I did believe it were wrong, I wouldn't believe it should be illegal - the state is separate from the church, at least in the US.

Which country are you talking about? The US? At least one of the US states didn't end its laws against interracial marriage until just a couple-few years ago.

In any case, I just took a look at Joshua 23 at http://bible.gospelcom.net,. Here we have the Lord telling the Israelites not to intermarry among the folks that they'd conquered over the years lest those folks become snares & traps for them. So, if you want to try to extend that single statement of the Lord 2000+ years ago to today's society, go ahead. Personally, I'll stick with today's society and choose to respect the freedom of other people to choose who they will become involved with, just as I choose to have that freedom myself.

anonymous, is there enough love in the world that you can choose to say to a couple, "No more?"

This is he most biased piece of crap I've ever read. I cannot believe there are still people in this country who use biblical laws a bizillion years old as defense for pure bigotry and intolerance.
WHAT WOULD JESUS DO? You moron!

Why is this survey offensive? Nope... I don't see anything wrong with interracial anything... and I don't care what is Biblically right or wrong

Ha! I didn't think this survey creator would list his/her name... Way to stand up for what you believe in ;)

In my opinion, The work 'I' should not be used in a survey's question or explanation text.

The God of the Old Testament told the Israelites to do some nasty crap. For example, God told them to rape the virgin girls of the people they were at war with.

Creator of this survey.....wake up!!!

Bill: Where abouts in the bible did God say that about the virgin girls!!

No, I don't believe it's wrong. Even if I did, who am I to judge a person for who they choose to love? And why did you give your own opinion in the explanation text, instead of commenting down below? This survey is incredibly biased.

Wicksy, sorry I can't give you an exact location.

There should never be a law against marriages of any kind. People should be allowed to spend the rest of their lives with anyone they want. The government should not interfere in people's right to live their lives the way they think will make them most happy. Isn't the pursuit of happiness covered in the Declaration of Independence?

I'm the one who voted 'yes' for the third question. I don't have a Bible handy to check, but odds are good that it can be interpreted in the way you want.

TwM: Jesus would do what he always did, turn the other cheek and say something vague.

And while where at it we can limit all non-"white males" from voting, working or owning property. (And of course we'll have to use the traditional view that a white person is descended from northern Europeans. We can't have any I-talians or Spain-ish folks in this.)

jjg: I don't think I see the parallel you are trying to make.

1. How is disallowing different races from intermarrying comparable to treating one or another race as an inferior? The other races aren't inferor; in fact they are described in the passage in question as 'great and strong nations', presumably to be feared.

2. The law was originally applied to non-whites to prevent them from marrying other non-whites. Northern Europeans didn't get into the picture for at least another thousand years. So if we want to make the first assumption, then all non-Jews should be disallowed from doing those things, not non-whites.

So basically, loving the person the person who makes your heart skip a beat, loving someone who makes you feel like a better, more complete person is a sin? That's fudgeed!

Biblically wrong doesn't really play into what I care about.

What does Biblically mean?

Seeing as how anti-miscegany laws were historically used to oppress the political, economical, and moral status of ethnic groups in America, I'm gonna have to say hell no!

drdt: Typically speaking the rules against interracial couples were put forth to keep the "inferior" races from gaining power and acceptance. Regardless of the use of the Bible as a source the concept is inherently racist. The Bible, seems to me, to be used as an avenue of legitimacy for a racist attitude. I simply attempted to use a humorous extension of the thought to show my disapproval.

No way! I also don't think you should include your opinion in the description of your survey.

jjg: And I, unfortunately, didn't interpret it as a valid extension. So sorry.

I believe that biblical reference was during the old times, before God's plan was widened to include gentiles (non-Jews), so it would no longer apply now. All tribes and peoples of all colors are welcome to Him.

**they- how many time have you done anonymous surveys to preserve a number?

I haven't made any anonymous surveys in a long time... Next time you want to accuse me of something, use your name coward...

"I don't give a crap if it is Biblically wrong."
What people do for and with each other ain't any of my business, nor yours. Bluenoses should spend their time having a life instead of meddling in the lives of others.

Let's not take a step backward after finally making some progress in recent history. And don't try to cram YOUR bible down my throat, because I think it's a bunch of crap.

Sacrilegious Central

no! that would be very retarded and pointless! I don't know why anyone would answer yes to any of these questions.

fudge joshua 23

someone is a little angry with old Josh :)

I live with a family that is an interracial marriage, but I personally wouldn't marry a black man. It is fine for some, but not for me. I think you have to take into consideration how controversial it is, and what your children would have to endure. If you are prepared to handle it, then I see no reason why you shouldn't. As for the Biblical aspect of it, I am still undecided.

For anyone against the idea of interracial marriage, consider that white slave holders in this country have had for centuries been raping and impregnating their slave women to increase the numbers of their "property." Interracial couplings existed long before love and free will ever entered the picture. That outdated law is an attempt to punish and erase any legitimacy of a true marriage and union.

If you believe that "black" and "white" are that clearly defined in this world, take a good hard look at the next colored person you see. They could be a distant relative of yours.

Oscar.. I think the idea of worrying about what your children would have to endure is outdated... In my highschool, you were cooler if you were black... white kids went out of their way to act and dress in the style that the black kids and latest rap artists did. What do you base your information on?

I think it changes depending on where you live. There are many places in America alone where your nationality does matter. Take for instance the south. There are still alot of prejudice people in America. It may be quieter, but it still exists. More than once I have heard phrases like "Nigger in the wood pile" and "tainted blood". It may not be bad where you live, but some people still have to worry about how interracial living will affect others.

fooyun - Good point! I've always wondered how long it will take before there is only one race on earth because everyone has mixed together. It seems like that would solve some of the world's problems.

Oscar: Two of my best friends are interracial, we do live in the South, and you're right, they have endured name-calling and prejudice because of this, by both black and white students. Luckily, they were raised by people who gave them strong feelings of self-worth at an early age. They look at these people as ignorant butt-holes not worth their time. They are also two of the most beautiful people I've ever seen. I think that society as a whole can deal with biracial children, but there will always be someone to give somebody crap about something.

There are prejudiced people all over America... people judge me all the time... I think it makes me a stronger person. Just because some people are still ignorant, doesn't mean you shouldn't do things that 'they' deem wrong... If people continue to have attitudes about it like you do, then there will never be a solution to the problem.

That is what I am trying to say, Mariah. The people I live with have four of the most beautiful children I have ever seen! Their mother is black, and she has instilled in them a pride for who they are. She has also taught them that it doesn't matter what people think of you...those who think bad of you aren't worth your time. They also understand that it doesn't matter what you look like on the outside. I'm sure they will face prejudice and hatred, but they will be able to face it knowing that they have the upperhand.

Then why would you be worried about the kids Oscar?

I'm not worried about those kids.

But you said that you wouldn't be in an interracial relationship because you were worried about the kids that you might have, right?

Thank you Mariah :)

Yes. I said I'm not worried about the kids that I live with, but I would worry about my own kids. They will have to face it even if they are able to withstand it. I don't think they should have to face it at all.

And protecting children from harsh realities serves them how?
I also find it funny that people always use the..."It's so horrible for the children"...excuse for pure bigotry.

There wouldn't be a worry in the world about skin tone for these kids if all parents raised their children to respect and honor others no matter how different they are from them (big ears,fat,skinny,funny accent, disability, skin color, nose size etc). Children are basically cruel. This served a purpose during prehistorical times, I assume, some kind of survival of the fittest drive. This cruelty can be tempered now it is not needed, by teaching our children to control these instincts we give them good head start for a life led less selfishly and with more understanding.

Let me ask you this: If an interracial couple were sterile and could not produce offspring, would the marriage be ok then?

We are all God's children.

I feel that members of the human race should not be allowed to marry members of other races such as ocelots and squid. Within the human race, I'm pretty well open to anything between consenting adults short of incest. I checked that I do feel it is Biblically wrong but I don't equate that with morally wrong. The Bible is full of stuff that is morally wrong...ever read Deuteronomy? Don't get raped, that's all I can say...

why not incest?

Tw: two-headed kids.

Ok...What if there are no children produced?

mandy: The marriage would still not be correct if the parents were sterile, but I'm sure humanity would be better off if you were.

Whoa!!! This is going to get exciting!!!

Why would humanity be better off if I were sterile, Oscar?

People like you shouldn't be allowed to reproduce. It is detrimental to society.

Oscar: Excuse me for saying so, but that doesn't seem like a very Christian thing to say to someone. WWJD, my friend, WWJD?...

Oscar: You're being awfully mean to Twist. What did she do to you?

Oscar: What do you mean people like Twist? What kind of people are you referring to here?

Like me? You know me?
anyway...it's too late. I did reproduce. :)
and I'm grooming her to be just like me...so watch out....

I've read some of what you've said ILJ, so maybe you should ask yourself the same question.
I don't think Twist did anything to me personally, Brian. She's just rude in general.
Mariah: I am referring to self-centered, rude, self-willed, high-minded, egotistical people.
No, Twister, I don't know you. Thank goodness. I only know the image that you portray. And I'm sorry to hear about your daughter. The poor girl...

Oscar: The difference being that I'm not a Christian. That notwithstanding, it seems rather cruel to me to wish sterility on someone simply because you find them to be of lower character than yourself.

Oscar: Well, I don't think that accurately portrays Twist. I don't know her personally, either, but from reading her comments, she seems to be a nice person. And if the type of people that you have described were kept from having children, the world would be a much smaller place.

So...the fact I have really good self esteem bugs Oscar. No problem :) He can filter me if he doesn't want to hear my opinions.

I wouldn't call it self-esteem, I would call it cockiness.
ILJ- Why did you bring up WWJD if you aren't a Christian? I never said she was of lower character than myself, I simply said that I don't like her.
I am a female, Twister. I enjoy the fact that you have a lot to say, I just don't agree with much of it. That is why I don't filter you out.

Oscar: Non-Christians can bring up Jesus, because Jesus was a real person. There's MORE than enough historical evidence to that fact.

Yes, but not too many people believe that He matters.

Oscar - You're right. You don't know mandy. She is the kindest person I know. If you can't handle her candor and/or her wild sense of humor perhaps you SHOULD filter her comments rather than hurling hateful insults.

Oscar - Because you are a Christian (I believe Baptist falls under that umbrella, yes?), and I wondered how you believed Christ would feel about your attitude towards mandy. I'm not the one who wished sterility on another human being, so my beliefs are irrelevant.

They was no hate intended. Just honesty.

Ok, so this is the deal...Twister, I'm sorry. I didn't mean it. I think you guys just caught me on a bad month. I'm sorry I was rude, and I hope your daughter grows up to be everything good in the world and all you want for her. Same to the rest of you.

Oscar: Is your middle name 'Adolf' by any chance?

no, no, no, why?

Oscar: Can't believe you even dare to ask why..

are you speaking of Adolf Hitler????

No, Adolf Ghandi... duuuh!!!!

I still ask, "Why?"

Oscar: Because you wrote: ´People like you shouldn't be allowed to reproduce´.
You must be pretty sick to write things like that.

No, I said that Twister shouldn't be able to reproduce, but then I recanted.

That´s easy, isn´t it? First you write a terrible thing and then, when you see the comments, just say: sorry.
Very immature.

I shot a homeless man today and took his wallet. But then I felt bad about it, so that's ok.

*snork*

You all have good points, but I didn't kill Twister or anything. I only said something very rude.

No it isn't wrong, what is wrong is controlling others actions which is ABSOLUTELY no ones business. Some people, you know, need to have their head examined, the racists, the sexist, the homophobic, and all the ignorant people like that.

I was taught as I have grown up that while we can all be at peace with each other. I was also taught that having a spouse of a different race is Biblically wrong.

jonathan ------- Would you rather trust society, or The Lord?

I would rather trust myself.

Hazy: I trust my experiences, and I trust my friends. And they all agree that you are wrong.

Hmm. Interracial marriage is Biblically wrong, and yet my Hispanic wife and I were married in a Protestant church*. Go figure! Someone wasn't watchin' the barn door on that one, eh Jethro?

*To please her parents. I'm as white as they come, by the way. I guess that makes me the brains and the brawns!

Hazy: Neither, actually. I'd rather put my faith in individual human beings but they keep on testing me.

ILJ - Kinda makes you wonder about this whole religion thing, doesn't it?