Do you know the secrets of the Mormon Church LDS ?

No. No I don't. I am not an expert on the LDS church.

Yes I know about the "secrets" of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. I also have something to say about the matter. As many of you know, I am a member of said church. I love it, I know the work it performs is true, I know it is God's Kingdom on earth. Naturally it disturbs me to hear and read such slander designed to discredit the church. Therefore, I pray for the souls of the fallen people who have risked their own salvation to expose elements of sacredness. These elements are secret in the same sense that salvation is free. Salvation is freely given, anyone and everyone can be saved, it's just a matter of reaching out to God and taking the necessary steps to receive this blessing. Thus, the secrets of the LDS church are freely given, anyone and everyone can partake, it's just a matter of taking the necessary steps to be worthy to receive further enlightenment.

The only way anyone will understand truths about the LDS Church is to contextualize it's doctrines. The problem with articles such as the ones cited is they take principles out of context and out of the big picture leaving a sour taste in the reader's mind. Would you take your broken down car to a librarian to get it fixed? NO!! So why would you go to an incredible source for information on The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints?

I used to get so frustrated and angry whenever I'd come across anti-Mormon literature such as this. However, along my way through life I've learned a powerful truth that has brought peace to my mind and heart. I learned that,

"The Standard of Truth has been erected; no unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing; persecutions may rage, mobs may combine, armies may assemble and calumny may defame, but the truth of God will go forth boldly, nobly, and independent, till it has penetrated every continent, visited every clime, swept every country, and sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished, and the Great Jehovah shall say the work is done."
-Joseph Smith

Anti-Mormon literature is a tool of Satan and his minions. Nothing he can do will stop this church's standards and truths from filling the whole earth. In the end GOD WINS!!

I've heard a few really strange things, some made me laugh out loud.

don't they have magic underpants?
(i may have just given away the secret!)

I watched the cartoon version:

No, and I really don't care. I'd only care about them if I were Mormon, which, thank god, I'm not.

If the secret is that it was all made up by Joseph Smith, then yes...

Paying attention and adhering to any organized religion is wrong. Organized religion is just there to control, intimidate, brain-wash and take money from people.

The worst neighbors I have are the baptists across the street who attend church functions constantly and have people at their house for Bible study and who knows what almost every day. They park their cars all over, sometimes illegally in the crosswalks, stand outside talking loud and laughing up to 11 at night, are unfriendly to others on the block who aren't into their church and have been nasty to my wife for no reason.

On two occasions over the years I have had Mormon neighbors next door to me. They were very strange people, secretive and stand-offish although basically polite. One of the families had 9 children which I thought was ridiculous. They were well known in town because one time they 'forgot' their 2 year old at the bank and went home without him.

FoxTurtle does not think Jessica is one of Satan's minions at all, so...

I now of the Mormon Church, but not of LDS. This makes it sound like something you would see at the supermarket aisle tabloid section.

OK, now I know what LDS stands for. I have no opinion.
I hope that doesn't make me a minion

The Mormon Church will rip out your tongue could not believe this one and there is a very large Mormon
Church right up here and the things they do to their members is beyond me

I am curious to know what your purpose was in designing this survey. Will you elaborate?

> I am curious to know what your purpose was in designing this survey.
> Will you elaborate?

Well to begin with this was all on the CBS News and just found it to be of interest and it is very interesting just like
we go to school to learn right ?
So many other way's we can learn things as well and something I just never knew before

That's valid, I was just curious.

> That's valid, I was just curious.

Thank you

> If the secret is that it was
> all made up by Joseph Smith,
> then yes...

We just watched a documentary the other night about Jim Jones.... It contained tons of film and audio... including the audio of Jim Jones preaching as his followers fed the children poison and then did it to themselves...

It was amazing to me how many seemingly normal people just followed this man... and did everything he said... everything.... including murdering their children, watching that go down, and then doing the same crap to themselves.... I think he started with the children partly because he knew the adults would be more willing to die once they'd lost their kids. I think it was something like 909 people died that day from just the poison. I just kept thinking..... Sheep! They are all sheep! I was completely shocked at that.

If I was a little more charismatic, maybe I could talk people into whatever story I felt like making up too.... L. Ron Hubbard is another one...

It's horrendous what people will let themselves believe. But it has a long precedent - Abraham was seen as virtuous because he was willing to murder his son. If you're raised in a culture that doesn't challenge that (by being accommodating of people who believe that) then that must make it easier to do the same thing. It astonishes me how many people say that they would never be in that position - it isn't just cults, look at genocides in recent history, like the Holocaust, Rwanda, Yugoslavia and the same patterns apply. Ordinary people willing to do appalling things because they are told to do so, and given permission by those in authority. Have you come across the Milgram experiments?

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I do not understand the need of others to convince others that their way of thinking is the correct way to think. IMO God comes in many flavors like ice cream I prefer chocolate some like vanilla, and you go to hell if you like strawberry!

I think that God has many faces and for some just remains quite. He allows (God is not really a he or a she, more like a what) everyone to make his or her own conclusions about reality. It is an individuals right and freedom to believe as one wishes, and nobody’s right to condemn or judge.

If we find it necessary to condemn a behavior, (because it infringes on other people's rights) then condemning the belief system behind the behavior is a way to tackle it at the root.

Or do you think it is possible to oppose the behavior without going after the beliefs behind it?

I never mentioned behavior I only said beliefs, what one believes stays in their head, how one behaves is quite another thing altogether.

I know. But if someone happens to use their beliefs to justify bad things, it makes sense to go after the beliefs. A person can have a really strange religion, but if they don't use it against people, most people wouldn't care. "Live and let live." I think the reason a lot of people attack some belief systems is because of all the vocal, powerful, disagreeable people that give that belief system a bad name. I think it's a defensive kind of reaction.

No! How one behaves has to do with their self-control and respect of others not with how one believes. For example I may have a world concept or even religious belief that is not conforming, that is my right! It does not give me the right to impose it upon another. Actions are independent of belief.

Your avatar, a women in ecstasy crossing the road?



Don't mind me my dad pissed me off, I am grumpy, need to sleep.

I know...

I am talking about the people who use their beliefs to justify bad things. Not everyone does that, and people who don't do that deserve tolerance and respect.

It's those ones who take their beliefs, push them on others, use them to create laws that don't/shouldn't apply to everyone, etc, that create the friction and turmoil that puts others in defense mode.

Same belief system, one group deserves tolerance and respect, the other group is starting stuff. So in defense, other people attack the belief system (which happens to be shared with respectful people.)

My avatar is "Dancer Xing" I made her out of a road sign symbol and a silhouette I swiped from some website. Doesn't she look happy?

I think maybe we are saying the same thing (maybe), if persons take actions using their belief system as a reason or a cause they should be accountable for their “actions” not for the belief system (religion). Even Muslims, as much as I disagree with their perspective I do not hold them as a whole accountable for what the portions of radical extremists are doing in the Middle East in the name of religion.

The one thing that the creator gave us that is so uniquely our own, so personal, so critical to our survival and development intellectually and spiritually is our ability to think and form opinions and beliefs about our world. It is a crime to selfishly or overtly influence another’s ability to objectively form their own ideas. This is especially true with children. Governments, Religions and society attempt this all the time, it is wrong.

It is necessary to be diligent and be weary of radicals and criminals using a faith system to justify acts of terrorism and crime. The best example I can give is what happened to the Jews during World War II, just the fact you were a Jew could get you killed. So the badge or label itself is not enough to justify even suspicion, activities are another thing altogether.

A lot of people might take exception to my perspective on reality, so be it. I love to talk about it but try to wait until the opportunity lends itself, I do not keep throwing into peoples faces unless they get into my face about theirs.

Freedom, true freedom come with a price, and the state of being free is not safe ground to stand. Respect is the basis of freedom, respect of others and their freedoms is paramount for true freedom to ring. Any infringement or attempt to contain ideals that do not conform is not respecting “the freedom” and will usually provoke a retaliatory reaction.


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Ecstatic!

Yeah we were saying the same thing, just from a different angle. I agree with all that.

Hello ecstasy girl!

hello! I'm just drinking cocoa and pondering my day

Don't ponder too hard you might hurt something.

Gotta go work now, bbl

I might...

I've had a Mormon family live near me, and they were very nice. I think it is unfair for people to generalize.