I didn't watch the video.

I saw it months ago on youtube. It didn't impress me all that much.

I feel like we need stricter immigration laws.

I found the video to be frightening, I was born in 1954, in my life I have witnessed the whole world population grow. My father was in Air Force and we traveled allot overseas. But having been in Southern California since 1961 I have seen the situation get way out of control. I am not racist in the least, if France were on our border to the south I would say, “Stop the flow of illegal French from crossing our border!” It is at the risk of the consequence if we don’t!

I don't know.

A lot of it looks like it makes sense, but what's with the immigrant population (red) rising so much faster than current residents (green) in future generations? I don't get how they could gain by that much more than current citizens. Seems like an inflated prediction.

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I watched a PBS Nova program about world population a few years ago. It gave an alternate viewpoint on this. One of their points was that we need immigration to counter-balance the lower birth rate in the US. In particular, as our population ages, without immigration we wont have enough people to be doing the work in this country to take care of the elderly. In some cases directly, via nursing and similar services. And otherwise, by just being tax-paying workers. Japan and Europe actually have impending crisis due to this inverted pyramid population situation that is coming. The US is in better shape because of our higher immigration levels.

We've been very fortunate to live in the USA during a long period of economic growth. Perhaps, the period has been so long that we've lost sight of all the factors that fuel this growth. One of the significant factors are workers at the bottom, working the low-paying, hard, dirty jobs. Immigrants provide a tremendous benefit to our economy, by providing low-cost labor. Without that, much of our economy would be undermined. Yes, current Americans can do those jobs, but it seems like people don't understand how that will come about. They'll have no choice, they'll be poor and desperate and forced to take low-paying jobs. The opposite of growth is stagnation, and that will be very painful for many people, especially people on the bottom, but also much of the middle-class (which may not remain middle-class for long). Growth provides a greater chance for upward mobility and the American dream. Stagnation eliminates it.

My great great grandparents immigrated to America over 100 years go. They arrived poor and worked tough, low-paying jobs for generations. In many ways, I am the benefactor of their hard work. Mexicans are people much like us, and especially like my great great grandparents. They are hard-working people, looking for a way to improve their lives and the lives of their children. Attempting to block them seems unfair and wrong to me. Or worse, racist (would we see them differently if the color of their skin was white [like my grandparents]?). Their skin is brown because their ancestors were natives of this land. They may have more of a claim to America than we do.

Blocking immigration is a form of protectionism, a kind of economic manipulation. The labor market should be open, like all other markets.

I didn't watch the video...just abstained.

It's dramatic but it just underlines what I've always believed; this planet just cannot sustain the amount of people on it presently. We're like an organism gone out of whack...

America wouldn't have been the super power it is today without immigrants.
You think the USA is full?? Take a look at some European countries!

I can't. Youtube is blocked here at work and it takes too long at home with dial-up.

I think the whole world is too full.

Let's see what your benevolent God has to say on this, shall we?

Exodus 22:21 You shall not wrong or oppress a resident alien, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt. 22 You shall not abuse any widow or orphan. 23 If you do abuse them, when they cry out to me, I will surely heed their cry; 24 my wrath will burn, and I will kill you with the sword, and your wives shall become widows and your children orphans.

Deuteronomy 10:17For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

If you're panicking, or angry, getting everybody else angry won't help. Do something about it.

Well dah i say , you could never tell living up here and all the land available to build new homes is endless
and beyond the solar system
That is until you get out on Interstate 70 going to Denver looks like a parking lot all the time and Summit County
is really the only one that is growing and building they have a new hospital and so much more

> A lot of it looks like it makes sense, but what's with the immigrant
> population (red) rising so much faster than current residents (green)
> in future generations? I don't get how they could gain by that
> much more than current citizens. Seems like an inflated prediction.

Well there is plenty of room for all of them just look at all the land that is available up here at least like millions
of acres for all of them farm land and ranch land up here and just endless and only one or two homes
is all on all that land

The United States is a country in which pretty much everyone is descended from immigrants. There's something wrong about coming to America, enjoying the freedoms that it provides and then saying, "Sorry, we're full".

eh...

I've got dial-up & it's not loading very well, but I will say this: The U.S. is a nation of immigrants, even the Indians are thought to have come from Asia. However, the majority of those immigrating came to the U.S. legally. Most made an effort to learn the predominant language (English). Many immigrants coming to this country nowadays don't even bother to make an effort to learn English because there are signs & forms in their language, so why bother? I'd love to see what the reaction would be if I moved to a country where I didn't speak or understand the language & start demanding that they accomodate me by speaking in only English. If you move to a country, no matter the reason, learn enough of the language that you can converse, work, shop, etc, without forcing others to cater to you.

Unless you are a Native American, you'd do well to remember how your family got to this country. It is the height of arrogance and hypocrisy to say that immigrants shouldn't be allowed in the US. Without immigrants we would be a stagnant backwater. Without immigrants the industrial revolution would never have got off the ground. Without immigrants we never would have gotten to the moon. Without immigrants we wouldn't exist.

No need to exclude Native Americans. Their ancestors migrated to this continent too.

That's true, but in a "we were here first" sense, they are the only group with any claim.

Sure, if you make decisions by "racial" group. In that case, Hispanics beat the Brits and Scandinavians beat the Hispanics. I don't think any of it is relevant as far as what immigration policy should be today. It feels like a certain moral justice in going back through history and trying to right wrongs. You could imagine going back millennia, figuring out who was where first and who took over by conquest, and then trying to find the descendants of those who were "wronged". I think the worldwide chaos that would result would not really benefit anyone. So how do you decide how far to go back?

I have no problem with Native Americans being identified as the indigenous inhabitants of the country, since they were here for hundreds if not thousands of years before anyone else showed up. They may have migrated here, but that doesn't make them immigrants in my book, anymore than any individual who does not live in whatever part of Africa homo sapiens originated in is an immigrant. Everyone else is an immigrant, though. I agree that none of it is really relevant for what our immigration policy is today--that has to be decided by contemporary factors for the most part. But it has everything to do with pointing out their own xenophobia to a bunch of people who are the very definition of "xeno."

I agree with you on pointing out silly xenophobia. Immigrants are good for the country. Migration is good all around. I disagree with claiming that you and I are immigrants. We were just as much born here as any Native American. In general I'm against group-think and I'm against blaming people for what other people centuries in the past.

It's not that we're immigrants but that our ancestors were. We're just as much the beneficiaries of immigration--past and present--as the people immigrating now will be and as their descendants will be.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......

I agree with all that. Especially relevant, I think, is your use of the word "present". I think immigration now benefits those of us who are already here as well as the immigrant.

Exactly.

I didint watch it.

Yawn

I can't bring myself to sit through a 9 minute video about immigration to a foreign country.

Whatever...

The immigrants of years ago, when they came, they assimilated to our culture, learned our language. We didn’t import ill, poverty stricken people, who would become a burden to our nation. As I’ve mentioned before I had a fiancee that he and his family immigrated to this country in the 40’s. They had to have a sponsor, could not come in and get welfare, they had to learn the Constitution, they had to perfect the English language, they had health checks, pledged allegiance to this country. Most of those people were Europeans, they came here respected our laws, our roots. What do we have now? We‘ve imported people, legally and illegally that have become a drain on our society. Many are terrorists coming through our borders. They refuse to assimilate, refuse to learn our language….want to change or destroy our foundation, our culture.

Bill, of course, to the one world elitists, they need people they can control, they want to flood this country with third world peoples….they couldn‘t care less about them, they‘re using them. We’re becoming a socialist/communist nation. The Federal Reserve, the New Deal, Wall Street STINKS.