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Should lady-like male-to-female transexuals use the Mens or Womens restroom?

Assume they are 'passable' but 'detectable', they might even have full breasts, but they still have the equipment that makes them legally male. They might also like to check their make up.



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3Men's room
28Ladies room
11Which ever is most convenient
8Which ever is recommended at the establishment
9Other:
3I have something else to say:

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Jasmine
posted 31-Aug-1999 12:48pm  
Please state which region of the planet you live in, if you don't mind.
romkey Survey Central Gold Subscriber
posted 31-Aug-1999 2:32pm  
I don't really care who uses the men's or women's rooms.
mandy Gold Qualifier
posted 31-Aug-1999 3:41pm  
Ladies room...a male to female transexual, in my opinion, is a woman...... A delicate flower who should NOT under any circumstances be subjected to the kind of filth that accumulates around urinals. The lighting in a mens room can suck too...not conducive to make up applications or touch ups.
Very
posted 31-Aug-1999 4:20pm  
They should use the freak restroom, naturally.
eris
posted 31-Aug-1999 5:16pm  
Can anyone here tell me (Jas?) whether it is, in fact, the "equipment" that makes them legally male? As far as restrooms go, stall walls are opaque, so only looky-loos should be upset  * smile *
Frostbrand
posted 31-Aug-1999 5:30pm  
We should have more unisex bathrooms. Studies have shown that unisex are usually the cleanest bathrooms of the three major types.
anonymous
posted 31-Aug-1999 7:02pm  
Use the restroom for the sex you are, not the sex you wish you were.
seven
posted 31-Aug-1999 7:04pm  
Lets have unisex locker rooms, too.
they Bronze Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier This user is on the site NOW (6 minutes ago)
posted 1-Sep-1999 12:19am  
I think a transexual would be more likely to make men uncomfortable than women. That's what I think anyway... I don't care who is in the public restroom with me. There are stall doors.
Jasmine
posted 1-Sep-1999 1:49am  
eris: yep, sure is, at least in California, USA but it might vary in each state.
Thank you all for answering. So far since I had library security escort me out of a womans room once, I choose the mens room, and yet whenever I ask for a key, it always turns out to be the womans. It is seriously the biggest downer about being TS, being reluctant to use public restrooms.
Jasmine
posted 1-Sep-1999 2:00am  
eris: However, the olympics uses the standard of genetic gender, though that's always under debate. Hormones do reduce muscle, increase thighs and hips, soften the skin, stop male pattern baldness, thin body hair, and develop breasts. If taken before puberty they will prevent adams apple and deeper vocal chords, but only surgery can change that later in life. The oddest thing is they radically increase the number of dendrytes, which might explain why women think more ambient, and men more focused. Of every psche med I've taken, estrogen has actually been the most notably effective. No studies have yet been published on this application.
supplicant
posted 1-Sep-1999 4:19am  
Brian: could this be due to the fact that people hate them and so there are less people using them to make them dirty in the first place? :)
wynkin
posted 1-Sep-1999 6:40am  
If the perceived problem is males seeing women undressed or urinating, then the problem is voyerism, not transexuality.
Jasmine
posted 1-Sep-1999 9:50am  
Wynkin: That never occurred to me. I don't like disturbing people, unless it's a friend and I'm trying to make a point. I hate having to hide in a stall till the coast is clear to wash my hands, so that my appearance does not shake up and worry some anita bryant tractor repairman or little old lady. I thank God when i find those unisex private restrooms. If unisex ones with multiple stalls exist, I've never seen them, but I'd be comfortable there too, I think.
Jasmine
posted 1-Sep-1999 9:52am  
I think I'll switch to the ladies room. I am really tired of having to wipe the seat clean all the time.
romkey Survey Central Gold Subscriber
posted 1-Sep-1999 9:54am  
has someone seen Better Than Chocolate recently? :)
bill Survey Central Gold Subscriber Double Gold Star Survey Creator
posted 1-Sep-1999 5:24pm  
We should make all bathrooms unisex.
bill Survey Central Gold Subscriber Double Gold Star Survey Creator
posted 1-Sep-1999 6:04pm  
jen, is "m-f" = mother-fudgeer?  * smile *
romkey Survey Central Gold Subscriber
posted 1-Sep-1999 9:51pm  
then "u-f" would be Uncle Fudgea?
miykal
posted 1-Sep-1999 9:59pm  
bill, unisex bathrooms.....you get my vote. I never use the urinals if I can avoid it. I feel urinals demean the male homo sapiens. Only dogs pee against a wall. With unisex bathrooms perhaps we can be rid of urinals.
Jasmine
posted 2-Sep-1999 12:07am  
Architects have to plan on 6-1 stall ratios in public facilities because women have so many things encumbering them.
My: Are you telling me men didn't pee standing up before the urinal was invented? But yes, i agree, then we could install those drinking fountain - hair dryer combos the French use, I think they're called bidet's. I started my ladies room policy today, & feel so much more comfortable, having made a decision and sat down for my right to use a restroom without fear. I asked at the library where the restroom was. She recommended one then changed her mind to the womans as I said thanks.
romkey Survey Central Gold Subscriber
posted 2-Sep-1999 10:14am  
Lilith Fair!
Jasmine
posted 2-Sep-1999 12:29pm  
What about it? Was it a facility planning disaster?
drdt
posted 2-Sep-1999 4:56pm  
miykal: How can you say 'only dogs...' when people do it all the time? I do it and I'm not a dog, at least I don't think I am. Peeing against a wall increases the altitude of your target, resulting in a shorter stream and, as a result, less spray and less noise on impact. Very civilized.

In a unisex bathroom there would be both urinals and tampon dispensers, not neither.
kristalynn
posted 19-Sep-1999 10:17pm  
Whichever they want.
SueBee Survey Central Subscriber
posted 26-Sep-1999 12:19pm  
I suppose they ought to use the ladies room, because I'm afraid they'd have a good chance of getting the crap beaten out of them if they go in the men's room...depending on the type of establishment, of course. It'd probably be a good idea to pee sitting down, so as not to freak out the women.
Mariah
posted 29-Oct-1999 7:01pm  
I guess whichever they feel most convenient with.
ILJ
posted 11-Nov-1999 2:17pm  
For their own sake, I say the ladies' room. They're less likely to get their ass kicked in there.
Avocado
posted 5-Dec-1999 6:33pm  
Jasmine - Womens' rest rooms can get pretty dirty, too. Honestly, how some women manage to pee on the seat and not clean it up is beyond me... and it happens soooo often! :(

I like how in California it's standard to have those paper seat protectors in each stall...

I like the rest rooms at Grendel's Den in Cambridge, Mass: "Either" and "Or." I always had the urge to take a marker and make 'em into "Neither" and "Nor"... ;)
ajr
posted 18-Jan-2000 8:18pm  
I said ladies room, but really whichever they prefer.
they Bronze Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier This user is on the site NOW (6 minutes ago)
posted 18-Jan-2000 10:55pm  
hmm.. wonder what's going on with good ole Jasmine.
w_wanderers
posted 1-Jun-2006 8:37am  
Why don't they just have public restrooms (as in some places) where males, females, disabled and transsexuals can use with privacy. Where I live I'm sure a detectable transsexual would get the sh;t beaten out of them if they came into the male room.
LindaH Survey Central Gold Subscriber Bronze Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
posted 25-Jul-2008 11:29pm  
Whichever one isn't going to make them look out of place. Really.
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