There is no good nor bad, no holy nor evil, in absolute terms.

I voted right, because when I look at the universe and at nature I see no evil nor holy, or good and bad. Take the mind of man out of the picture and what have you got? However I guess its like asking if a tree falls in a forest does it make a sound if there is no-one around to hear it? It appears to me that holy and evil, good and bad, are inventions of homo sapiens................................michael.

There is good...There is evil. You do NOT have to choose to be one or the other. Both are distinct and natural facets of human nature. Ride the grays baby....

Right, in the most absolute, because it is all the single embodiment of God/mandy. But unless you are one with the directors seat on every level, evil is an issue.

Wrong. I believe good and evil both exist. It's just rare to find the two extremes undiluted.

holy and evil aren't opposites to me.

I don't believe that "good", "evil", "bad" and "holy" have anything to do with the fundamental mechanisms of how the universe operates.

Every decision is based on the current circumstances. Even if you accept that certain activities are inherently 'good' and certain activities are inherently 'evil', there will be times when doing one 'good' thing will result in an 'evil' thing happening elsewhere.

'Holy' is a completely different concept and doesn't belong here.

They're all constructions of human minds

my: So what's your point? Let's kill each other off or torture each other? Fine from the absolute viewpoint, but not what i'll be spreading through the planet.
drdt: To the extent that I am good, the evil around me increases.

I would rather be famous, then righteous or holy, any day, any day, any day...

Let's talk about good and bad, but please leave words like "holy" out of it.

Jasmine, my point is that we cannot know the "mind" of "God". Hopefully all the homo sapiens at this site are all endowed with the human trait and none have the inhuman trait. Its my hypothesis that humaness is greater than mankind. It is the meme of memes. The human race will outlive homo sapiens. Humaness is an intangible. Only the acts of humanity can be witnessed. Humaness is the Godly likeness within the shell of homo sapiens if we choose to believe that "God" exists and that "God" cares about the human race.

Are you trying to say Human-ness or Humane-ness?
We can too know the mind of god. But it is generally meant to be experienced from personal human vantage points. Just like 'Myst' brings little more joy than 'pong', so for God, what is the difference between being all knowing, and having a single experience. There is no point in being all knowing; self-experience is Gods motive.

Miykal - "Meme of memes"? What is a meme?

btw/ God is the human race. Caring is just a favorite pastime within the pastime.

Who the hell knows?

Fooyun - Miykal knows...listen and learn.

SueBee: "meme" is a term coined by Richard Dawkins, it refers to any self-replicating unit of culture. It is a take-off on "gene".

Shouldn't that be "True" and "False"?

Very, thank you, I enjoyed reading your definition ......michael

good: Clinton/Blair
bad: Milosevic

holy: God
evil: devil

Wicksy-why?

any anonymous comment: evil

Ask under username for answer!!

Wicksy, a Serbian might give the opposite answer.

Wicksy: Quiz - Describe the devil as a creation of God and man and the role lucifer fills in the lives of either.

I feel a sermon coming on - prepare to filter.

Jasmine: why did you ask for a sermon if you were going to filter it anyhow?

drdt: I was preparing to embark on a sermon; others may wish to filter.

Jasmine: Whatever you were hoping, I am not going to answer!!!

Everything is relative. There will always be another viewpoint, condition or result.

wynkin.......BRAVO...obvious, but so true.

Glad you say right, cause i think i'm working for the other man for awhile.

Jasmine, I heard that you can continue to collect social security for the first 6 mos. that you work... is that true?

I'm on SSDI, so I'm considered a disabled worker. If I were on SSI I would be considered working disabled. The rules are much different. Here are my rules:
1) Employment catches their scrutiny
2) More than $200 /mo. is considered work
3) More than $500 /mo is considered SGA (significant gainful activity)
4) More than 9 months of SGA in 9 months of working within 36 months means I am recovered.
5) After recovery, I am dropped from the system 3 months later. Until then I receive full benefits as well.
In other words, I have financial incentive to prove I am well.

In contrast SSI deducts nearly half your earnings from your benefits.
I expect to be getting off the system myself, but I have 9 months to prove that out.

So if you work for 8 mos, quit... wait a month, then work for 8 mos again... you can completely screw over the system?

This much organized thinking could almost make a person a responsible member of society

7: It had occured to me. Unfortunately (or fortunately) I am getting used to the idea of society. I still haven't stooped to lying on paperwork for credit cards or social services, though I'm finding even my honesty can annoy office people.
they: No, I couldn't do more than 9 total in every 36 months, not merely 9 consecutive. I am getting so organized at work, it's great. But then I always good at optimizing systems, just not making decisions. Being a secretary, and leaving my engneering as a hobby is such a wonderful compromise. Come to think of it, people recommended that a decade ago. But being so creative, I couldn't justify wasting my talents on routine work. Too bad this job will never pay as much I make on SSDI. I like doing this, so I have 9 months to find another part time income to make up the difference.