Is that the all-singing, dancing, and acting Paris Hilton who has several lucrative business deals going (perfumes, jewellery, nightclubs, mobile phone games, etc, etc)? I don't like her much, but she can hardly be accused of not doing anything.

Nicole Ritchie.
Those annorexic twins with big eyes.

Brian "Kato" Kaelin

Michael Jackson.

Paris Hilton

I'd disagree. His album "Thriller" is one of the highest sold of all time. In recent years he has done nothing but his music was very popular in years past.

I don't know how Donald Trump got lumped in with these two. He's done quite a bit with his life. Lately he's let himself become a bit of a joke but that doesn't take away from what he has done.

They're not celebrities, they're "personalities".

Oh I know. It was an attempt at sarcasm.

Can't think of any. I guess anyone who they put 'socialite' after their name when they write about them.

I don't know how Donald Trump ended up in that mix, but he's done a lot in particular. More than most people! He might not have a stellar personality, but he's proven his worth.

Charles Nelson Reilly

What would you consider Donald Trump's greatest work? His masterpiece? His magnum opus?

You've got the right idea. I've never heard of her, but then again I'd never heard of Anna Nicole Smith until she was dead...

You've got the right idea!

I'm actually a little surprised that most people don't seem to "get" this. Maybe I didn't explain it very well...

> Paris Hilton

I wish I'd thought of that!

Seriously, she is the only one I could think of.

> I don't know how Donald Trump got lumped in with
> these two. He's done quite a bit with his life.
> Lately he's let himself become a bit of a joke
> but that doesn't take away from what he has done.

I can't help but notice that you failed to mention any of these great achievements.

Well, at least you tried...

As a consolation prize, you get a lifetime supply of Jiffy Pop!

That Richie girl comes to mind.

Anybody who has ever appeared in a "reality" show.

Mary Kate and Ashley? I guess they were actresses and make clothes but is that what they are known for? I can't think of anyone else. Donald Trump is famous for real estate and making money, isn't he?

George Bush is famous for doing nothing in particular........in a sense.

Kevin Federline comes to mind.

It's kind of hard to come up with people... Most people did something, though often it's kind of lame or was a long time ago.

hm... how about Quentin Crisp? He's dead now, and I know he did some writing, but mostly he was just a fun personality for talk shows and parties.

Hmmm.... I didn't write "great achievement" what I wrote was he has done quite a bit with his life. If you really don't know what he's done http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump
I'm not a particular fan although I did read The Art of the Deal years and years ago.

Mary Kate and someone (Ashley).... I think you mean The Olsen Twins. Last photo I saw of them they looked more like The Heroin Twins.

I can't think of anyone...everyone's done something
But...Nicole Ritchie or whoever she is..I guess would fall under there...

Paris, Paris, and Paris. How bout that? Can't stand her.

I love Michael and he's done plenty to be famous. He basically started pop.

Tori Spelling, Kevin Federline... why am I drawing a blank?
Ooo! Edit... Kimberly Stewart!

Yes! He did write a book though.

I guess part of what I'm looking for is people who seem to be way more famous than their achievements would lead one to expect. Or people who's claim to fame seems to be appearing as a "celebrity" on a game show or whatever and they milk that for so long that everyone forgets how they became one in the first place.

I also think that being famous just for being rich is kind of lame. Okay, Bill Gates. Fine. Everyone else?!! How is that interesting? It seems just as well to have people being famous for being fabulously poor!

Celebrity homeless guys!

I know there's more. I'm having trouble thinking of them too.

I just know him as this guy who started getting a lot of media attention back in the eighties for no particular reason other than he was supposed to be really wealthy, although no where near the Forbes list or anything.

Then a few years later, it turned out that he bought all that from a press agent. The idea was to gain a reputation so that he could bank on it. Then he went bankrupt or close to it. Then everyone forgot about him until this reality show thing hit.

And Gawd he has an awful hair style!

Lots of people do "quite a bit" more with their lives. I suppose I don't understand why someone like him should be so famous. What contribution has he made to society, culture, history etc.? Nothing that I'm aware of.

> Celebrity homeless guys!

Like Kato Kaelin!

> Well, at least you tried...
>
> As a consolation prize, you get a lifetime supply of Jiffy Pop!

Yaayy!

Actually, pop was invented LONG before Michael Jackson was even born.

1798 The term "soda water" first coined.
1810 First U.S. patent issued for the manufacture of imitation mineral waters.
1819 The "soda fountain" patented by Samuel Fahnestock.
1835 The first bottled soda water in the U.S. 1850 A manual hand & foot operated filling & corking device, first used for bottling soda water.
1851 Ginger ale created in Ireland.
1861 The term "pop" first coined.

http://inventors.about.com/library//weekly/aa09169...

> Actually, pop was invented LONG before Michael Jackson was even born.
>
> 1798 The term "soda water" first coined.
> 1810 First U.S. patent issued for the manufacture of imitation mineral
> waters.
> 1819 The "soda fountain" patented by Samuel Fahnestock.
> 1835 The first bottled soda water in the U.S. 1850 A manual hand &
> foot operated filling & corking device, first used for bottling soda
> water.
> 1851 Ginger ale created in Ireland.
> 1861 The term "pop" first coined.
>
> http://inventors.about.com/library//weekly/aa09169...

She's the daughter of Lyonel Richie (I mispelled her last name).

I used to be into celebrities. Now I don't bother, unless it's about someone I truly like.

Them!

They were so cute when they were little. I adored them. But yeah, the Heroin Twins describes them now.

Laying in bed last night, I thought about 4 or 5 more. Now I can't remember who it was. It's driving me nuts. Damn you, Zang!

They must have done something interesting or they wouldn't be celebrated.

Yeah!

Oh, I thought of another one last night; Fabio!

Yeah, I checked wikipedia. I never cared for him.

He's a famous romance novel cover model!

Really? You mean when they were on that sitcom? I thought they were ugly kids. I feel bad for saying a kid was ugly but I thought then when the show was on. I was actually surprised they grew up to be pretty- well, the potential to be pretty. Seems they are going more for trashy.

> He's a famous romance novel cover model!

I thought he was a bird catcher

Meh. For some reason I have one of his songs on repeat in my head.

No, I never liked the sitcom. I adored all the home movies they made.
I thought they were cute as tweens.

Ah, as tweens. I was thinking of when they were like 3.

Exactly! His magnum opus was getting hit in the face by a goose on an amusement ride!

What about "Carrot Top"?

I think he just qualifies as a stand-up comic that some people like, some people are indifferent to and a lot of people hate.

I mean, I could say "Pauly Shore" or "Sinbad", but just because I don't like what they do, doesn't mean that they haven't done anything. Although they're both kind of borderline...

I really only know Carrot Top from commercials... like Fabio.

Oh. I saw him on HBO or the comedy channel or something years ago, in the '90s. I don't really remember his act. I think he does "prop-based" stand-up. Sort of like Howie Mandel used to do years ago...like in the '80s.

Donald Trump famous for nothing in particular? Um, maybe cause he's a multi-billionaire businessman. By that standard ANYONE who is famous ever, other than politicians and scientists is famous for being famous.

Ok, allow me to start. Carrot Top, Marilyn Monroe, half the women in playboy, Tyra Banks, half of every model ever, Britney Spears, Kevin Federline, that Dell Kid, Princess Dianna, some more people I can't think of.

Buy a magazine.. there you have it..

> You've got the right idea. I've never
> heard of her, but then again I'd never
> heard of Anna Nicole Smith until she
> was dead...

That's because you don't watch TV.

> Charles Nelson Reilly

Now that's a good one!

David Hasslehof
John Elway
George Bush
Me
You
Carmen Electra
Hillary Clinton
Bill Gates
George Washington
Garth Brooks
Survey Central
Dallas Cowboy's
Madonna
Howard Stern
Britney Spears
George Lucas
Fidel Castro
Fabio
Larry King
Mel Gibson

Even if I did, I probably wouldn't watch the kind of shows that would encourage familiarity with such things.

Well that might be true, but if you watched any news you probably would have seen her.

All I ever remember him doing is a game show.

Barbie and Ken giggle and spout propaganda? No, I don't watch that.

Exactly! I believe he also did voice-overs on Saturday morning cartoons.

I really don't watch it either. Just now and then for a few minutes at a time.

Oh, I think your right there. His voice was a little distinctive.

Sometimes I listen to the news on the radio. If I hear anything interesting, I'll check it out online. Usually it's just more of the same kind of crap.

Hanna-Barbera villains I think.

Yep and they just keep repeating the same crap over and over again.

Probably.

Anna Nicole Smith was actually a model so she did do something unless you think all models are famous for doing nothing. I'm not a fan especially but I think she did do something.

Donald Trump, Paris Hilton, Anna Nicole Smith are famous for not doing anything in particular? But they are all famous for something; Trump for his rebounding real estate success, Anna Nichole Smith and her stripping career and subsequent, messy probate legal issues, her son’s death, her death and the most accomplished one of all, the actor, author, singer, party hostess, and vixen; Paris Hilton. Not only can I not think of any Celebrities who aren't famous for doing anything in particular, I don't agree with the ones used as examples.

Lady Isabella & Victoria Hervey, Kimberley Stewart, Nicole Richie, Tara Palmer Tomkinson, Calum Best

Paris Hilton, Nicole Ritchie and the Olson twins.

Donald Trump, Paris Hilton, ..............................

Jade Goody