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| single | 4-Jan-2007 | opinion | MiniMary | by votes | 41 | 7 | 59.5% |
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| User | Comment |
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| Melf | posted 5-Jan-2007 4:57pm I don't know. |
| cerealkiller | posted 5-Jan-2007 5:05pm It's DUI here, and I have no idea what the penalties are since it's not an issue for me. I know it's expensive though.
But I do think over $300 is a bit stiff for not wearing seatbelts. Anyone not wearing them though is a fool. The other day a mother, father and three teenage daughters rolled their minivan on I-5 not far from where I live. None of them was wearing seatbelts and three were ejected. Both parents were killed. Wonder if these stupid girls (one of them was driving) will wear seatbelts in the future??? |
| LindaH | (reply to cerealkiller) posted 5-Jan-2007 6:14pm I think it's foolish not to wear seatbelts too, but I don't think there should be a fine. Adults should be allowed to endanger themselves. |
| cerealkiller | (reply to LindaH) posted 5-Jan-2007 6:16pm Don't believe in motorcycle helmet laws either, eh? People not wearing helmets and seatbelts end up with more injuries, increased medical costs for everyone. |
| LindaH | (reply to cerealkiller) posted 5-Jan-2007 6:26pm Nope. I don't believe in any laws designed to protect people from injuring their own self. The medical insurance system should change, so that people's risky behavior doesn't affect other people's medical costs. Regulating their behavior is going at it from the wrong side. |
| cerealkiller | (reply to LindaH) posted 5-Jan-2007 6:40pm How can you 100% of the time not have risky behavior cost other people? It costs thousand's to treat someone in an accident that could have been prevented if wearing a helmet/seat belt. Not all of these people have medical insurance to pay for the bill. Hospitals have to spread out the cost to everyone else by increasing prices. To not do so would bankrupt hospitals in no time.
Only way your idea might work is if we had socialized government provided medical insurance for everyone. Never gonna happen and would be a nightmare like Social Security. So, I say yes, make people wear seat belts and helmets. But make prostitution legal. I should be able to buy some pussy if I'm not hurting anyone and am only risking my own health, eh?? |
| LindaH | (reply to cerealkiller) posted 5-Jan-2007 6:55pm Yes. I think prostitution should be legal. I'm also pretty comfortable with paying higher health care costs if it means people can enjoy more freedoms. |
| cerealkiller | (reply to LindaH) posted 5-Jan-2007 7:10pm > Yes. I think prostitution should be legal. I'm
> also pretty comfortable with paying higher health > care costs if it means people can enjoy more > freedoms. More freedom isn't always good. While I don't believe in stupid laws like what color you can paint your house, how many pets you can have, prostitution, etc. I do believe in discipline and laws in other ways - seatbelts, helmets, banning fireplaces, driving laws, drinking & driving, drugs, etc. |
| LindaH | (reply to cerealkiller) posted 5-Jan-2007 8:12pm I can totally understand laws against drinking and driving. Given the stats on how many innocent people are accidentally killed by drunk drivers, seems reasonable to keep that illegal. I think drugs should be legal, especially the ones that have benefits in moderation.
Do fireplaces significantly contribute to pollution? |
| paulyw | posted 5-Jan-2007 8:21pm No, I think OUI charges in my state should be a lot more stiff. We have people here who get stopped for DUI at least 5 times, and one person got stopped for the 11th time. |
| JessicaWoman99 | posted 5-Jan-2007 9:37pm Yes the law is the law, and drinking and driving there should be even tougher and stricter laws and really enforce them because in my opinion some people do not take driving and drinking serious enough and end up killing somebody else or themselves and driving is a responsibility and watching out for other cars and trucks, and most people seem to think that hey they can still drive after being in the bars all night long |
| JessicaWoman99 | (reply to LindaH) posted 5-Jan-2007 9:40pm > I think it's foolish not to wear seatbelts too, but I don't think
> there should be a fine. Adults should be allowed to endanger themselves. It is not only you but other more responsible adults who are sober and driving out on the road as well and the ones more likely to die in a car crash that innocent person who did no wrong |
| LindaH | (reply to JessicaWoman99) posted 5-Jan-2007 9:48pm Are you talking about drunk drivers? I think drunk drivers endanger others on the road. Sober drivers who aren't wearing seat belts are only endangering themselves. |
| JessicaWoman99 | (reply to LindaH) posted 5-Jan-2007 9:59pm > Are you talking about drunk drivers? I think drunk drivers endanger
> others on the road. Sober drivers who aren't wearing seat belts are > only endangering themselves. Yes drunk drivers who endanger other people out on the roads, and sober drivers should wear their seat belts they are going to kill themselves and anybody in the car with them if not using a seat belt, and drunk drivers are a menace to our roads and highways and hurt innocent people |
| RGirl | posted 5-Jan-2007 10:39pm I'm not too familiar with them. |
| RGirl | (reply to JessicaWoman99) posted 5-Jan-2007 10:41pm It is usually the drunk that comes out unscathed. They are relaxed and have slowed reactions so they don't tense up before they hit the other car or tree. |
| cabinfever | posted 6-Jan-2007 1:34am Nope... I don't think they are severe enough. |
| Zang | posted 6-Jan-2007 2:37am Sure. |
| ihatespiders | posted 6-Jan-2007 2:49am no my neighbor was killed by a drunk driver. It was a car full of kids,who had been drinking all night, It was 7:00 am, and they were going home,and she was going to I think someone's house, the drunk driver fell asleep at the wheel and hit her head on, shoved the steering wheel into her chest and she died from her injuries, the people in the other car came out with only cuts and bruises. I think the driver should have gotten life in prision, with no parole, but he did go to prision, just not long enough, I forgot how many years it was. |
| ROCKMAN | posted 6-Jan-2007 8:52am No, but I guess they are needed. |
| ROCKMAN | (reply to LindaH) posted 6-Jan-2007 8:54am > I think it's foolish not to wear seatbelts
> too, but I don't think there should > be a fine. Adults should be allowed > to endanger themselves. I won't wear one. It is to restrictive for me. This is my choice and I know the deal. |
| hypersky | posted 6-Jan-2007 10:15am Sure, I believe they're fair. If I've got this straight, you lose your permit for 3 months the first time, and it gets more sever after that. |
| Melf | (reply to LindaH) posted 6-Jan-2007 11:22am In your opinion, should they be fined if their children have no seatbelt on? I'm talking about aged... 10 and below. |
| LindaH | (reply to Melf) posted 6-Jan-2007 12:15pm Yes, they should, because kids don't have much choice in the matter. It's a parent's job to protect their kids. No one should have a legal obligation to protect their own self |
| Melf | (reply to LindaH) posted 6-Jan-2007 1:42pm Fair enough. That makes a lot of sense. |
| JessicaWoman99 | (reply to RGirl) posted 6-Jan-2007 3:14pm > It is usually the drunk that comes out unscathed. They are relaxed
> and have slowed reactions so they don't tense up before they hit the > other car or tree. Yes, the drunk person survives such an accident sometimes |
| mandy | posted 6-Jan-2007 5:37pm I got a DUI last year. I was jailed, fined, lost my license. To get it back I have to pay a high insurance and get a car breathalizer interlock device for a year plus pay a fine to the DMV. I had to pay for court ordered alcohol school and an alcohol evaluation. My lawyers fees were in excess of $2000. They are really cracking down on this. |
| RGirl | (reply to ROCKMAN) posted 7-Jan-2007 3:35am My dad won't wear a seat belt.. He says it is because he feels claustrophobic with it on and thinks if he drove into water he wouldn't be able to get out. |
| ROCKMAN | (reply to RGirl) posted 7-Jan-2007 8:01am That's a good piont. Water or fire would suck if you couldn't get out. |
| they | posted 7-Jan-2007 9:14am Yes. |
| they | (reply to cerealkiller, LindaH) posted 7-Jan-2007 9:17am I agree with seatbelt laws... The rescue workers that have to scrape these people off the sidewalks every day probably appreciate them as well.
Also, the parents of the three teenage girls should have been required by law to secure their children in the minivan at the very least. |
| they | (reply to cerealkiller) posted 7-Jan-2007 9:19am > But make prostitution legal.
> I should be able to buy some > pussy if I'm not hurting anyone > and am only risking my own > health, eh?? Exactly..... just as I should be allowed to rent mine out if I feel like it. |
| LindaH | (reply to they) posted 7-Jan-2007 10:22am I think people should have to secure their kids in seat belts. I just think adults should be able to decide what risks they want to take on their own lives. |
| filiasan | posted 7-Jan-2007 6:35pm It's DUI here. But I don't know much about it. This is because I don't drive. |
| cerealkiller | (reply to LindaH) posted 8-Jan-2007 11:59am > I can totally understand laws against drinking
> and driving. Given the stats on how many innocent > people are accidentally killed by drunk drivers, > seems reasonable to keep that illegal. I think > drugs should be legal, especially the ones that > have benefits in moderation. > Do fireplaces significantly contribute to pollution? Yes. Especially in the Central Valley where I live. Worst overall air in the winter for the entire country. |
| Jody | posted 8-Jan-2007 1:06pm I think they should be more harsh. |
| autumnlight | posted 8-Jan-2007 7:43pm No - people aren't punished enough here. You can kill someone and get two years in jail. |
| Enheduanna | posted 9-Jan-2007 7:00pm I don't know what they are. |
| cloudhugger | posted 12-Jan-2007 11:36pm I don't know, I have such mixed feelings aout this. A single beer efore I go home, can land me in jail, cost me thousands and ruin my reputation. Doesn't seem fair. They keep lowering it, I don't know what they are now, but it's really low. |
| cloudhugger | posted 12-Jan-2007 11:38pm I'm not talking aout being drunk, I am answering to the limit that is set y the state. |
| patarnone | posted 15-Jan-2007 6:46pm Yes. In Washington state we call it DUI... Driving Under the Influence. They even hit first timers with a vengeance. I would like to see more severe emphases on the repeat offenders. |
| shorty189 | posted 5-Feb-2007 11:22am They should be tougher. And on underage ever worst. |
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