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Iseult  | | posted 25-Apr-2006 2:13am |
I don't think that. Unless you're a Scientologist. |
| Enigma | | posted 25-Apr-2006 3:28am |
Um... did I say they were? |
| Shadow_Matt | | posted 25-Apr-2006 7:32am |
i am not religious what so ever. |
| gsummers | | posted 25-Apr-2006 8:03am |
I am not so arrogant as to say my beliefs are 'correct' and others not.. just different to some and not a whole helluva different to others.. Some religious beliefs may seem peculiar to me, hell, I think all organized religion is peculiar in some ways.. but I wouldnt ever make a comment like the above question. |
bill   | | posted 25-Apr-2006 8:10am |
Because mine are more logical!
OK, busted... I'm sure I come off like an arrogant atheist prick most of the time. |
| micky21 | | posted 25-Apr-2006 8:16am |
Because I am ignorant of other peoples beliefs like many others are. you can only choose one faith really. |
Zang  | | posted 25-Apr-2006 8:25am |
I don't care for he word "spiritual". It isn't a word I would use unless I was trying to describe a tune like "Swing Low Sweet Chariot", or something like that.
I think that describing ones religious beliefs as "correct" is a bit silly. In order to have a workable philosophy, it should be well reasoned, consistent and logical. If one isn't sure, it is always good to engage in debates. I'm sure there are enumerable well reasoned, consistent and logical philosophies to choose from. I don't believe that any particular one is "correct" at the exclusion of all the others. Mine appeals to me and it works for me. Something else might work for and appeal to others. |
| MiniMary | | (reply to romkey) posted 25-Apr-2006 9:59am |
I do not know if 'correct' would be the word I would use to describe a spiritual belief. I have faith in my beliefs, knowing they are intangible. It is BECAUSE they are intangible that I have 'faith'. In terms of others, I am not looking for 'faith in their beliefs' as I am content with my own. I am not judging the faith of others as ';correct' or 'incorrect'. As Zang says above, 'correct' is a bit silly (and too simplistic). Faith goes deeper than 'correct' and 'incorrect'. My faith isn't as simple as grading a schhol paper.  |
Lahdee  | | posted 25-Apr-2006 10:04am |
Everyone's beliefs are the ultimate truth according to themselves. Otherwise why would they believe it? |
Galomorro  | | posted 25-Apr-2006 12:32pm |
Your own beliefs are more correct if and when they actually work for YOU, yourself. If they boost your spirits; help you treat other people fairly; give you satisfaction and hope when you practice them (pray, go to a church or temple, meditate, whatever); help you to get more out of life; help you think in a more positive way ... then they're right for you. |
| southernyankee | | posted 25-Apr-2006 12:43pm |
because they just are and because I know everything and everyone else is dum |
| Enheduanna | | posted 25-Apr-2006 12:47pm |
I wouldn't look at it this way. I may believe that there are no gods, and therefore, yes, I believe that people who do believe in gods are wrong in some way. But right and wrong aren't the point of religious belief (in a general theological sense, not in the sense of moral or ethical wrongs). I don't think it actually matters that much whether there's a God or not. It matters what people do with that belief. If they use it to hurt others, then I think they are wrong in their application of their belief. But the beliefs themselves aren't necessarily all wrong, especially not just because I don't agree with them. I don't judge people negatively just for having beliefs different from mine; I judge them negatively for using their religious beliefs to justify harming people. |
| Iseult | | (reply to Lahdee) posted 25-Apr-2006 1:47pm |
Unless you're an agnostic. |
| Melf | | posted 25-Apr-2006 1:56pm |
Other - because I believe in the evidence that supports them.
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| CGTREE | | posted 25-Apr-2006 2:02pm |
I have no spiritual or religious beliefs at all, And that's because religion is man made. It was made way back in the day to scare people in to following "laws". That's why way back in the day people from the church would kill anyone who either didn't believe or questioned the church and its beliefs in god. The commandments were of course the "laws" and with the punishment of death and roasting in eternal hell this is why most people followed the laws. This is why I do not have any religious or spiritual beliefs. |
| Melf | | (reply to CGTREE) posted 25-Apr-2006 2:09pm |
There's a few religions, such as Buddhism, that don't include a God, just a set of teachings. What's your opinion on them? |
| Jody | | posted 25-Apr-2006 2:10pm |
The Bible makes it clear that if you believe what the Bible says, then it can be the only true faith. I'm wrestling with some parts of the Bible, but not that one. |
| CGTREE | | (reply to Melf) posted 25-Apr-2006 2:19pm |
Actually I found Buddhism quite interesting and I found that it made a hell of a lot more sense than religions with a god. But I still wouldn't like to wast the time to learn about it and follow these rules or teachings. I like to follow what my own body/brain tells me is right. |
| Melf | | (reply to CGTREE) posted 25-Apr-2006 2:30pm |
Fair enough, I just didn't think it was right that you tarred every religion with the same brush. |
| CGTREE | | (reply to Melf) posted 25-Apr-2006 2:31pm |
Understandable. |
| iamdonte | | posted 25-Apr-2006 3:19pm |
This is not my belief...what I object to is the proselytizing of others who want to shove their belief down the throats of other people. I object to being subjected to their, IMO, bullcrap and rhetoric simply because I don't believe their version. If their religion was the only religion and their god was the only god, why are there so many religions to choose from and why do they have to go on a recruiting spree? If they were right, then they shouldn't have to recruit anyone.
I think people believe what they want to believe (sometimes even brainwashed into believing) because it is what they need or want. A woman who wants to be inferior and doesn't want to know any other way, will choose to be in relationships that will place her in that position. (And I use the feminine gender only as a point of reference.) People do whatever is comfortable for them and it provides them with whatever it is that they need. That is why there are so many flavors of the month for churches...people seek out what they need in a church/religion that fits closely to a preconceived idea that they may have and what they are comfortable with. They seek a pastor/minister/preacher/priest that is believable to them and will follow whatever rhetoric they are told to believe.
No matter what the reason that someone chooses a religion or chooses not to be a part of a religion is should remain a personal choice. No ONE is better than another. We were given "free will" for a reason. |
| iamdonte | | (reply to gsummers) posted 25-Apr-2006 3:20pm |
> I am not so arrogant as to say my beliefs
> are 'correct' and others not.. just different
> to some and not a whole helluva different
> to others.. Some religious beliefs may seem
> peculiar to me, hell, I think all organized
> religion is peculiar in some ways.. but I
> wouldnt ever make a comment like the above
> question.
Bravo!
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| iamdonte | | (reply to micky21) posted 25-Apr-2006 3:24pm |
> Because I am ignorant of other peoples beliefs
> like many others are. you can only choose
> one faith really.
Why can you only choose one faith? I am part of a, to use the term loosely, "faith" that teaches world religion - meaning we learn about the beliefs structures and systems of all of the religions in the world. There are things that I like about each one and there are things that I dislike about each one. I can use in my own personal life those aspects that make sense to me and or good for me personally. The rest of the congregation do the same thing.
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| iamdonte | | (reply to MiniMary) posted 25-Apr-2006 3:30pm |
> In terms of others,
> I am not looking for 'faith in their beliefs'
> as I am content with my own.
Beautifully put. If people were content in their "faith" they wouldn't need to "spread the word", recruit, or proselytize. If they needed to "witness" to others, actions speak far more loudly than words.
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| MiniMary | | (reply to iamdonte) posted 25-Apr-2006 3:43pm |
Absolutely, my faith is private and mine....totally opposite from wanting to 'spread the word'. If it comes to that, then I really don't think you're talking about 'faith' anymore. More like a debate. So cold and unfeeling. |
| they | | posted 25-Apr-2006 3:43pm |
I'll let someone else argue my point here. |
| iamdonte | | (reply to MiniMary) posted 25-Apr-2006 3:50pm |
True..."faith" is like a can of beans at the grocery store. How do we know that there are beans inside? We have "faith" that what the label says is correct. We could argue the correctness of the label until we are blue in the face and it will always boil down to one thing - they only way to know for certain is to open the can. With religion - the only way to know for certain is to die and by then it is too late no matter who is right. |
| iamdonte | | (reply to they) posted 25-Apr-2006 3:51pm |
> I'll let someone else argue my point here.
Chicken!  |
| MiniMary | | (reply to iamdonte) posted 25-Apr-2006 3:53pm |
Yes, true also. But, when I open a can of beans....I know I will see beans. When I die, I only hope for a better state of being and it is not up to be to pontificate on what that state of being will be. I have faith that it is beyond our 'human' imagination. |
| iamdonte | | (reply to MiniMary) posted 25-Apr-2006 3:57pm |
Ahhh, but when you open a can of beans you may get peaches (it happens more often than people know with companies that put labels on more than one product).  |
| they | | (reply to iamdonte) posted 25-Apr-2006 4:41pm |
 Nope... just lazy... and strapped for time.... answering surveys while on break.  |
| ultamate | | posted 25-Apr-2006 6:05pm |
I wouldn't say that my beliefs are more correct than the beliefs of others. And that would be the very reason I don't associate myself with any denomination. |
| ultamate | | (reply to bill) posted 25-Apr-2006 6:08pm |
> Because mine are more logical!
>
> OK, busted... I'm sure I come off like an arrogant
> atheist prick most of the time.
Only "most of the time", is that all?
jk |
| Lahdee | | (reply to Iseult) posted 25-Apr-2006 6:36pm |
Is that a belief or a lack of one? |
| RGirl | | posted 25-Apr-2006 7:00pm |
My spiritual/religious beliefs are only correct for myself. I can't say it is for anyone else. There some bizarre religious beliefs out there that I roll my eyes at or laugh at - Scientology, or get angry with - Christian Scientists. Then there are the one's I feel sorry and embarrassed for, anyone who takes what another has told them as the truth and answer for everyone on Earth without weighing in the possibilities that oppose those beliefs. Not being able to openly look at all sides then making a decision for themselves and acknowledging that it may not be the 'correct' answer for anyone else. |
| JessicaWoman99 | | posted 25-Apr-2006 8:14pm |
Yes my spiritual beliefs are correct because I believe in having Love for each other, and accepting people for who they are whether or not a person is Muslim or Hindu or in a wheelchair and just other people who are different then I am, and not everybody not every human being is the same person we are all born different into this world, and there are so many kinds of Faith and Denominations and many religions out in the world. The Lord Jesus came into this world not to judge and condemn and send us all to hell, but Jesus came down to earth and became one of us and take away sin from this world, and we are all given a choice between Heaven or Hell it is our choice where we desire to go? I mean no other Christians have that right to tell us what to do and how to live our own lives. And I say that other Christians that judge others wrongly and accuse us of this, and that, they are no better then we are |
| LuridHope | | posted 25-Apr-2006 8:48pm |
I feel really limited by these the options.
Spirituality, religion, and theology have such a vast human spectrum.
I sometimes wonder if religion is man's attempt to comprehend a very real spiritual world.
Many interpretations of the same the same same thing.
You will find christianity and islam to be the most forceful and militaristic religions, they are also the worlds two leading religions.
The foundation of these religions is the old testement. It's a passionate battle cry against all who do not believe in the God of Abraham.
I love christians, the ones who have a selfless heart for humanity, but it's no coincidence that christianity has always followed European conquest and Islam, Arabic conquest.
The more passive philosophies of other cultures cannot compete. This is a general statement, I don't think anyone is free of exclusionary spiritual beliefs. Even atheism can be used as a way to exclude others socially and politically. |
| Amanda | | posted 25-Apr-2006 8:53pm |
I don't think anyone's beliefs are superior to anyone else's. I think that everyone should believe in what they feel is right for them. |
| iamdonte | | (reply to they) posted 25-Apr-2006 8:59pm |
Ahhhh, I see. |
cerealkiller  | | posted 26-Apr-2006 1:33am |
I think the whole subject of one's beliefs are private and should never be discussed with anyone else. That also includes inquiring about someone else's beliefs or preaching to others without invitation. Keep to yourself and I'll keep to myself. |
| cerealkiller | | (reply to Zang) posted 26-Apr-2006 1:36am |
> I don't care for he word "spiritual". It isn't
> a word I would use unless I was trying to describe
> a tune like "Swing Low Sweet Chariot", or something
> like that.
>
> I think that describing ones religious beliefs
> as "correct" is a bit silly. In order to have
> a workable philosophy, it should be well reasoned,
> consistent and logical. If one isn't sure, it
> is always good to engage in debates. I'm sure
> there are enumerable well reasoned, consistent
> and logical philosophies to choose from. I don't
> believe that any particular one is "correct" at
> the exclusion of all the others. Mine appeals
> to me and it works for me. Something else might
> work for and appeal to others.
I went to a Lutheran grade school. Every Monday the teacher would call off names and you responded yes or no if you went to church on Sunday or not. Once one kid said he went to church but to the local Catholic church with a friend. He got marked as not attending church because the Lutheran church was the only 'correct' one.
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| Enigma | | posted 26-Apr-2006 2:39am |
I like to learn about other peoples faiths. I have met an awful lot of nice people doing so. When I'm trying to educate myself I am usually not preached at for some reason. When I ask questions I don't do so rudely either. Maybe that's why. |
| bill | | (reply to ultamate) posted 26-Apr-2006 7:32am |
What can I say.... I have an agenda! |
| Zang |
Never heard that one before. I can't say it surprises me though. |
| MiniMary | | (reply to iamdonte) posted 26-Apr-2006 9:43am |
I would be content to know that there is something 'better' inside the can...regardless of the beans or peaches. THAT is where my faith comes in. |
| hypersky | | posted 26-Apr-2006 6:12pm |
I wouldn't say that my beliefs are more correct than the beliefs of others
I fudge up from time to time, and others do as well. Being dogmatic and single-minded is a dangerous thing because you tend not to see or acknowledge the mistakes you make, and that prevents you from correcting them and improving yourself. Am I making sense? |
| dilfreak | | posted 26-Apr-2006 7:50pm |
Other.....I wouldn't even say that they're my beliefs. Faith is basically belief put into action. Faith is a gift from God. The only way we can have any kind of belief is for God to give it to us. That's the only way we can know the truth. Revelation is essential for spirituality and belief, etc. I believe I know the truth because God has revealed it to me as such. It's personal and for me and only me. Some might find that arrogant, but I say, it's only arrogant to the ignorant. The truth is infinite, eternal and never changing, but God may reveal it differently to each individual. Everyone can have the truth revealed to them on a personal level. You just have to make the decision and Git 'r dun. |
| dilfreak | | (reply to MiniMary) posted 26-Apr-2006 7:58pm |
> Absolutely, my faith is private and mine....totally opposite from
> wanting to 'spread the word'. If it comes to that, then I really don't
> think you're talking about 'faith' anymore. More like a debate. So
> cold and unfeeling.
What if you felt you had the truth. Wouldn't you want to share it with others. I'll admit I enjoy sharing my beliefs, but i don't do it to force them on others or tell them they're wrong. I do it to invite them to learn and possibly grow.
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| iamdonte | | (reply to MiniMary) posted 26-Apr-2006 8:33pm |
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| cloudhugger | | posted 26-Apr-2006 9:10pm |
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| JessicaWoman99 | | posted 26-Apr-2006 10:27pm |
And nobody has the right to force what they believe in on other people, it is wrong! to go around judging others and being so critical of others and thinking that you know it all, and forcing somebody into your standard of thinking and trying to ram the bible down their throat or trying to convert so and so into what you believe this is deadly wrong |
| cabinfever | | posted 27-Apr-2006 12:11am |
I wouldn't say that my beliefs are more correct than the beliefs of others. None of us will truly know who was right until it is too late. |
| cabinfever | | (reply to hypersky) posted 27-Apr-2006 12:40am |
You make great sense. What drives me nuts about a lot of religious types is that when they do make a mistake, they say it's "God's will". Dammit, stand up and take responsibility for your own actions!
Another problem I have with religions like Catholicism and Mormonism is how they treat women. "Keep 'em pregnant and therefore submissive.... and making more little followers!" Makes me want to puke sometimes. |
| autumnlight | | posted 27-Apr-2006 8:38am |
Because I don't believe anything that was made up by some guy years ago. even a year or so ago I called myself Wiccan until I took a course at university that is about the history of the occult and I researched the basis of Wicca and realised that Gardner, the guy who founded it really just wanted a way to live out his little fantasies and call it a religious experience. So now I'm just pagan - I believe what feels right without the boundaries of an organised religion - that's why it's better than yours! So there! lol |
| MiniMary | | (reply to dilfreak) posted 27-Apr-2006 1:52pm |
If I were asked, yes...of course, but only if I were asked to share my beliefs. The preachers, more or less, who want everyone saved by Jesus are solicitors...which means they voice their beliefs to people who want to hear it and those who don't. That is the difference. |
| MiniMary | | (reply to iamdonte) posted 27-Apr-2006 1:52pm |
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LindaH  | | posted 27-Apr-2006 1:54pm |
Because, although we both may be right, I'm more right than you!  |
| hypersky |
Amen, sister!!! |
gambler  | | posted 27-Apr-2006 6:55pm |
wouldn't say that my beliefs are more correct than the beliefs of others |
| RGirl |
I believe more in the natural world around us. I enjoy Greek 'mythology' with it's stories that tie into naturally occurring events. Like the blacksmith god Hephaestus. His forge is in a mountain- volcano. Demeter, the goddess of agriculture gets depressed every fall when her daughter leaves- winter. The gods and goddesses have equal power and actually have checks and balances. Zeus may be king of the gods but not even he can mess with the 3 sisters the Fates who say when you are born, how long you live etc. And they have personality flaws we can relate to. They have flaws and are still gods. Jealousy, lust. And in particular there is a god or goddess for everyone or any occasion. For example, you're a 15 year girl and you are having issues say about sexuality or something. Are you going to be more apt to 'communicate' with a female goddess that understands and is her self assigned job? This would be Artemis. Or a male, paternal, all knowing, intimidating, god? It just makes more sense. And no, I don't think people REALLY believed there were this big human like things walking around on top of a mountain & in the sky. I do believe that ------------------- dammit!!!!!  completely lost what I was going to put here. |
| Halifax | | posted 27-Apr-2006 9:36pm |
This is the wrong sort of forum to ask that question. Most of us are more intelligent than that. |
| mve17 | | posted 29-Apr-2006 11:05am |
I have no beliefs |
| Gomezy3k | | posted 30-Apr-2006 11:48am |
Being an Agnostic, I don't have any set beliefs. I am still looking for some religion and God that I can believe in... |
| autumnlight | | (reply to RGirl) posted 2-May-2006 8:25am |
lol I kow what you mean. Polytheistic religions are a lot easier to relate to than one all powerful dude. People from all walks of life can pick one as their inspiration or whatever. I used to like the stories too - I liked the story of Persephone who had to go down into the underworld for six months because she ate pomegranate seeds. And of course Pandora's Box. |
| RGirl |
There are so many stories I like it would be ridiculous to try to list them. Echo, Narcissis, Psyche...As far as the one I most identify with I'd say Artemis. And don't try to go the way of the Romans, thieves & lazy too. Stole the Greek myths, just gave the players different names, and the Roman Empire twisted the system to their advantage. The head honchos claiming to be descendants of the gods. |
| CynShar |
I wouldn't say that my beliefs are more correct than the beliefs of others
Just my personal preference |
| Biggles | | posted 30-Jun-2006 4:01pm |
Mine are rational. |
| romkey | | (reply to Biggles) posted 28-Apr-2007 11:05am |
Yes |
