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| single | 8-Apr-2006 | politics/religion | metalhead123 | by votes | 48 | 10 | 46.3% |
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| Iseult | posted 8-Apr-2006 12:07pm It would still be illegal. |
| romkey | posted 8-Apr-2006 12:31pm I don't think that immigration issues are specifically about whether people speak English. That's just a convenient target for people's ire. I also don't agree with the sentiment that "the US is just flat our tired of all these immigrants coming to the US".
First, often people are scared of what they don't have experience with. Not so bad probably with one immigrant but if you have dozens, hundreds... many people are just uncomfortable. People are concerned about losing jobs. Because illegal immigrants are illegal, they usually can't have the protections and benefits that citizens have, and they usually don't have access to the education that citizens have. You see illegal immigrants washing dishes, not teaching calculus (even if they have a math degree, which some do). When you have a population living in enforced poverty you end up with a lot of crime in that population. "People" don't like that. I would hope that the any attempt to end illegal immigration by the US government would be because it's just bad all around for everyone. Almost everyone in the US is an immigrant or the descendant of an immigrant. Not by very many generations, either. It would be good to remember that. |
| Enheduanna | posted 8-Apr-2006 12:40pm It's a nice thought that the only issue is that they don't speak English. I don't think the government--which ultimately deals with this--sees it as simply a problem of language. |
| silvercity | posted 8-Apr-2006 1:54pm Illegal immigration is just that, illegal, and it doesn't matter if the person speaks English or not. |
| gambler | posted 8-Apr-2006 2:48pm I am not sure........ the speaking the language is a valid point though |
| hypersky | posted 8-Apr-2006 4:45pm My guess is that the American government is more tolerant of immigrants from English speaking countries. Canadians can immigrate to the US much easier than Mexicans (I think.) Having said that, I'm not sure whether the issue is purely one of language or whether it's the level of despair that many immigrants from poor Latin countries bring with them to the US. |
| LJD | posted 8-Apr-2006 10:03pm I am against any amnesty for the illegal immigrants, they should all be deported. They are burdens to us to the tune of billions of dollars. They are taking jobs from our people. I believe that 26% of the people in our prisons are illegal immigrants from Mexico. They have no regard, no respect for our laws, our language, our culture.
Personally, I am against, always have been against immigration from peoples from third world countries…pluralism leads to discord between the peoples. I believe in CONTROLLED immigration, and very little, if any, immigration from third world countries. Continued illegal immigration will lower our standard of life. Ask yourself, if you overspent, invited many people into your personal home...what would happen? In your home there would be strife, discord, you wouldn't be able to afford to take care of your home, couldn't communicate, you'd go bankrupt...this is what the enemy within is trying to do to this country, bankrupts us, destroy our economy...it's a well laid plan. The reason the gates were opened to the third world countries approximately 40 to 50 years ago is to cause problems for the Americans, to lower the standard of living, cause slavery to our people. The enemy within has and will continue to use immigration from third world peoples to stir up racial strife…it’s on their agenda. I know there will be a blood bath on this country’s soil in the near future, planned by the enemy in our government. Many, many years ago I had a beloved friend that came from Hungary/Germany LEGALLY…they had to have a sponsor, so they didn’t become a burden to the American taxpayers, they had wonderful health checkups, learned the English language impeccably, learned our Constitution, were responsible law abiding citizens. And there were time limits in which to do all this. I ask all of you what ever happened to all the foreign aid that we as tax payers have been giving to these third world countries for years and years? I don't see any improvements in their countries, only set up shops for our large corporations to help create a one world order, to spend, spend our taxpaying dollars. The foreign aid I thought was for the common people not the dictorial governments. We have been duped I believe. The problem in this country is the people, in their drug crazed minds, have become apathetic to the problem, the enemy has created diversions, kept people too busy to pay attention to what was and is a serious problem. Check out the below sites Click here: The Political Pit Bull: South Park's Take On The Mohammad Cartoons (Video) http://www.thepoliticalpitbull.com/2006/04/south_p... See how the illegal Mexicans feel about us...they have no regard, respect for a law abiding society....they want America to become a slum.... http://www.mexica-movement.org/granmarcha.htm |
| RGirl | posted 9-Apr-2006 12:11am I think some would understand it is the immigration issue & not being invaded by 'aliens'.. This would be a good thing. I think a lot of people that use language as an argument are really racist types latching on to that because it's a little reasonable. If people from Mexico suddenly started speaking English, those people would come up with something else. |
| Iseult | (reply to LJD) posted 9-Apr-2006 12:18pm > Personally, I am against, always have been against > immigration from peoples from third world countries…pluralism > leads to discord between the peoples. I believe > in CONTROLLED immigration, and very little, if > any, immigration from third world countries. If not people from third world countries then who? |
| JB98 | posted 9-Apr-2006 1:43pm I'd say other. I don't mind immigrants coming into the country, as long as they enter legally. |
| Bilateralkitty | posted 9-Apr-2006 11:09pm The problem is not language. It's the lack of domestic jobs INSIDE of Mexico for Mexican Citizens. Business in Mexico is fraught with corruption. Far worse than that in the USA. The pay scale in the USA is far higher also. A Mexican working 6 Months in the USA can go back to his/her family inside Mexico and realize an immediate financial gain as the USD is worth more than the Peso. It's all about money and exchange rates, plus they can get healthcare here also, unlike in Mexico, which when you get down to brass tacks, is just 2 steps above a 3rd world shi+hole. |
| LJD | (reply to Iseult) posted 10-Apr-2006 2:04am Europe, England, Canada, Australia, generally speaking, people with a culture, and faith close to ours. ...less turmoil. Years ago, most of our immigration was from Europe as it should have been, less turmoil. |
| Iseult | (reply to LJD) posted 10-Apr-2006 2:11am See, the problem with Europe is Europe itself doesn't have enough people to sustain itself through natural increas (births minus deaths). Countries like Italy are on a brink of losing population and Russia is already losing people. I totally agree with you with the immigration issue, it's just that only countries that have surplus of people are third wold ones.
And even Canada - our population would be shrinking if it wasn't for everyone we let in. |
| RGirl | (reply to LJD) posted 10-Apr-2006 3:02am Or do you mean just the Christians? |
| LJD | (reply to Iseult) posted 10-Apr-2006 6:53am The problem is Iseult, many years ago when I had my children, we were made to feel guilty if we were to have children. They know that we are an obedient people, so women started NOT to have children, and then abortion came onto the scene. This is a long laid plan to get rid of us to move the third world peoples in to elminate us. We are an obedient people, but we're feisty, they want people they can enslave as they do in the third world countries. I read recently that by sheer numbers they'll wipe us out, and also of intermarriage eliminates our inheritage. .It's a type of genocide. They've done to Europe as they've done to us. The only women I see here having children are the third world people they've purposely allowed in.
The elite, the international bankets, have to have volume in order to support their coffers, and people they can control. |
| LJD | (reply to Iseult) posted 10-Apr-2006 6:53am The problem is Iseult, many years ago when I had my children, we were made to feel guilty if we were to have children. They know that we are an obedient people, so women started NOT to have children, and then abortion came onto the scene. This is a long laid plan to get rid of us to move the third world peoples in to elminate us. We are an obedient people, but we're feisty, they want people they can enslave as they do in the third world countries. I read recently that by sheer numbers they'll wipe us out, and also of intermarriage eliminates our inheritage. .It's a type of genocide. They've done to Europe as they've done to us. The only women I see here having children are the third world people they've purposely allowed in.
The elite, the international bankets, have to have volume in order to support their coffers, and people they can control. |
| LJD | (reply to RGirl) posted 10-Apr-2006 6:56am Generally speaking, I do believe there would be less turmoil. |
| cerealkiller | posted 10-Apr-2006 3:09pm The question makes no sense. There will NEVER be an end to "illegal immigration" unless the U.S. just opens all the borders and lets anyone and everyone in.
I say enforce the laws. Anyone coming in illegally is a CRIMINAL, plain and simple, deserving NO amnesty, benefits, aid or the right to permanent status or citizenship. If that takes building a wall along the border manned by snipers with automatic weapons to pick off the bums, then so be it. |
| cloudhugger | posted 10-Apr-2006 5:39pm What does speaking English have to do with taking up space, earning money and not paying taxes or not investing in the American dream? |
| RGirl | (reply to LJD) posted 10-Apr-2006 8:39pm So, do you think it would be best if no Jewish people, no Muslims, no Buddhists, no any one other than Christians should be let in?
Now, I said, do you think it would be best. |
| LJD | (reply to RGirl) posted 10-Apr-2006 9:24pm This is a Judeo/Christian nation...the Jewish people and our roots are the same. I believe there will be an endless war between the Islamics and us. Yes I do believe our immigration policies should allow only the peoples I mentioned. But the traitors in our govt. opened the gates to peoples that will cause a lot of turmoil in this country...for instance, the current problem with the illegals from Mexico and South America...we have a security problem in this country. I love peace, am a law abiding citizen...but our govt. and business has allowed people in that are a drain on our economy, legal system, medical, and school system. |
| dab | (reply to LJD) posted 10-Apr-2006 9:35pm If you consider the Jews and Christians to have the same roots, then Muslims should be included in there too as also having the same roots. |
| LJD | (reply to dab) posted 11-Apr-2006 12:07am Actually, the war between Ismael (Islam, Muslims) and Israel is a forever war, there will never be peace.. Ismael and Israel are half brothers. God gave the birthright to Israel, Ismael was not blessed with it, but given the land of Arabia. The land of Israel to the Israelites. The Arabs will forever want the land of Israel because they feel like they should have been given the birthright, they're jealous. But Ismael was the bastard son of Abraham, not to receive the birthright. God had other plans. |
| mve17 | posted 12-Apr-2006 10:35am What |
| longhaultrucker | posted 12-Apr-2006 12:35pm I don't know |
| LuridHope | posted 12-Apr-2006 5:09pm Not exactly, this is a really good question, I hate to say is but if south Americans spoke English we would settle a lot of political differences and Mexico and latin America would become "civilized" economic powers. |
| Zang | posted 12-Apr-2006 11:50pm I don't believe that language is the issue. |
| LindaH | posted 13-Apr-2006 12:14am No. If they are somehow able to earn their keep or can be supported by a willing and able earner who is earning an honest living, there's no reason they need to know English as a prerequisite. |
| jennyo | posted 15-Apr-2006 6:33pm I don't think that language is the real issue here. I think the real issue is the fact that people are coming into the country illegally, no matter what their native language is. |
| Enigma | posted 18-Apr-2006 4:10pm Being Canadian, I don't know how Americans think about their immigration. I have read about it because it seems to be a big deal but I don't know enough about it to have an opinion. People are really divided aren't they? Some of these "illegals" have been in the US for a huge amount of time, have jobs/businesses and extended families born in the US. |
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