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| multiple | 4-Jan-2006 | opinion | ogre | unsorted | 53 | 7 | 49.0% |
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| User | Comment |
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| romkey | posted 4-Jan-2006 9:35pm I probably tend to disciminate more in favor of people who are unconventionally dressed and more against people who are traditionally dressed.... |
| darkshadowsseeker | posted 4-Jan-2006 9:54pm Other, I can't speak for others. However, I don't do this. |
| darkshadowsseeker | (reply to ogre) posted 4-Jan-2006 9:56pm What the heck is/are "chavs"? |
| dab | posted 4-Jan-2006 10:50pm Your answers seem more extreme than how I look at it. I'll notice some things and have an immediate negative reaction. Then I suppress that and try to remember not to judge based on it, even though I may still think it looks bad. |
| Iseult | (reply to darkshadowsseeker) posted 4-Jan-2006 11:01pm |
| FauxLo | posted 4-Jan-2006 11:09pm |
| darkshadowsseeker | (reply to Iseult) posted 4-Jan-2006 11:09pm Thanks. That's not a term I've heard before. Back when I was in high school, a lot of U.K. youth were called Mods & Rockers. They sound a lot like what some around here refer to as "ghetto punks". |
| LindaH | posted 4-Jan-2006 11:24pm I'm not bothered, but I do recognise there's a big difference between people who go out of their way to look like oddballs, and people who look odd by their nature and fail to go out of their way to look normal. I don't blame people who discriminate against the former. People who discriminate against the accidental oddballs/outcasts are morons. |
| Iseult | (reply to darkshadowsseeker) posted 4-Jan-2006 11:36pm they are generally equated to white trash here |
| darkshadowsseeker | (reply to Iseult) posted 4-Jan-2006 11:37pm That term has been used around here too, but it's generally aimed at adults, not teenagers. |
| FauxLo | (reply to darkshadowsseeker) posted 4-Jan-2006 11:41pm No... I aimed it at Shorty189, I think. |
| darkshadowsseeker | (reply to Iseult) posted 4-Jan-2006 11:45pm If you want to get an eyeful as to "alternative" clothing styles, piercings, tattoos, etc., all you have to do is visit the place where I work. They hire people that have trouble getting jobs elsewhere because of their piercings, tattoos, the way they dress, etc. Two of our supervisors are twin brothers, but it's hard to see that because one of the twins has his entire face tattooed (to the point that you can't tell that he's a twin) and sports a mohawk which he generally dyes a different color every so often. Last time I saw him, it was a sort of parrot-green. His twin brother has almost no tattoos, his hair is shortish and undyed, but he has piercings everywhere. One of my co-workers has dreadlocks that brush the floor. Most of the younger female employees have dyed hair in a rainbow of colors and more piercings that you can shake a stick at, and we have our fair share of anarchists as well. I think I work with some of the nicest people around, but, of course, I don't judge a book by its cover. |
| darkshadowsseeker | (reply to FauxLo) posted 4-Jan-2006 11:47pm |
| cabinfever | posted 5-Jan-2006 12:06am None of these. How did this get past qual? Anyways, I am normally not bothered by people's dress, unless they have cracks hanging out, or rolls hanging over the edges of their hip-hugging jeans under their crop-shirts. |
| YukonGold | posted 5-Jan-2006 12:47am Young people should express themselves. Dressing in a way I might think is weird should mean nothing to you. You go girl. Remember, your style may not meet the workforce standards. |
| patarnone | posted 5-Jan-2006 1:53am Hey different type person out there, I like all kinds of people! I appreciate the differences and that goes for tats, piercings, and especially dress. Out here in the music business, we see all sorts of personalities expressed in adornment.
I'm quite fascinated by it, personally. I'm the type that will sit next to someone on the bus because I like the Goth look, or their hair is really cool, and then tell them that I like their look. I wasn't so much different back in my day. , |
| darkshadowsseeker | (reply to FauxLo) posted 5-Jan-2006 2:02am I posted a thread in Forum with your name on it. Just for you. |
| bill | posted 5-Jan-2006 8:25am You and your whiny political correctness can bite me. Goth = someone with issues that I don't have time to fudge with. Come back when you get over yourself. Then, maybe we can talk. |
| Galomorro | posted 5-Jan-2006 9:34am Peoples' appearance doesn't usually bother me. I am ALSO one who has always preferred to dress differently -- I am a strong individualist and lifetime nonconformist. To me, clothing, hairstyles, piercings, etc. are benign forms of self-expression. I think the REAL prejudice is from stuffy employers and job counselors that get on someone's case because they prefer to dress more casually than said stuffy employer/job counselor, etc. thinks is "proper" for a job or job interview. I never could figure out WHY it is so important to people for a guy to wear that silly piece of cloth around his neck called a "tie" nor could I see the shiny black loafers (I mean, wear whatever kind of shoes or color of socks you please -- what difference does it make?) -- or the baggy, ugly "suit" one is supposed to wear. I think jeans and casual T- or sweatshirts (or hoodies and tees with logos or sayings on them, as I like to wear as a form of self-expression) should be fine, as the more comfortable you are, the better you are going to feel about work, and the better you will probably DO at work. I know there are some people who DO like to dress more formally for work, etc. and some people are going to say that dressing up for an interview is a "form of respect." But what if you think YOU do not look as well in a suit and tie or other business wear as you do in a more casual shirt and pants outfit? When I hear the job counselors say stuff like, "Dress one step better for an interview than you will at the job itself," WHY -- if they all know people are doing this on purpose ANYway, and it's all a big fake and put-on, why not just relax this custom? I myself will NOT wear a tie -- they bother me -- and I have never owned a "suit." When it comes to goths and other people who dress differently than I do, or what I'm attracted to personally, I do not judge them to be evil people if I do not KNOW them personally. (I do, however, I must admit, actually dislike the style of superbaggy jeans like some young guys wear today. However, I would never try to deny them the right to wear them.) Even though I myself no longer run around on weekends wearing crushed purple velvet wide bellbottoms with ties at the knees a la Jimi Hendrix, I respect other peoples' styles of the moment and think that goth styles SHOULD be allowed at school and work. I mean, who's it hurting? If it offends someone to look at a certain style of makeup, hairstyle, clothing, etc. -- let them get over it and viva la difference! And as for piercings or tattoos, if you want to get these, it is YOUR choice because it is YOUR body, and bosses, etc. should not discriminate against your right to self-expression. So there! You GO! |
| FordGuy | posted 5-Jan-2006 10:17am It happens every day. The extent? It's in the mind of the beholder. |
| Enheduanna | posted 5-Jan-2006 12:11pm People choosing to dress a certain way are choosing to project an image. It's not shallow to judge them based on it, if by judging you mean making certain basic conclusions about them. I believe that someone's dress tells you a lot. It shouldn't be the only thing you judge them on, but it's often a useful and accurate first clue. I think it's obnoxious to say "I'm going to dress this very particular way, because I want to project my feeling of difference, but I'm going to be pissed if you think I'm actually different." If I assume you are a serial killer based on your clothes, then sure, you have something to complain about. But it's not shallow to pick up on the social cues that people project through their choice of clothing. |
| cerealkiller | posted 5-Jan-2006 1:24pm You needed an "Other" choice.
I also don't think your question has anything to do with your answer choices. Your question should have been " Are you prejudiced against people who dress unusually?" or something like that. Your point has nothing to do with discrimination. I don't care what people dress like, but at times I have a hard time not laughing at some of the more strange ones out there. Only prejudice I would have is that I wouldn't want to be seen in public with someone with weird clothes, body piercings, blue Mohawk and rings on every finger. |
| mve17 | posted 5-Jan-2006 3:18pm I think everyone should wear bin bags |
| romkey | posted 5-Jan-2006 11:02pm Wow, you guys really didn't like this survey, huh? |
| Enigma | posted 5-Jan-2006 11:09pm Well you educated me, I had to look up chavs in the dictionary. I don't base my opinion of someone on appearance, it's attitude that is important to me. Having said that, I don't have time for people dressed alike hanging in groups with major attitude, doesn't matter if they are goths or a street gang. |
| southernyankee | posted 6-Jan-2006 12:37am Most of the time, I don't conciously discriminate or form opinions of others based on dress. I guess if I was an employer or something along those lines, that would be different though.
btw, I hate fashion consious people. I think that they're the scum of the earth. Or at least come close. |
| southernyankee | (reply to darkshadowsseeker) posted 6-Jan-2006 12:47am I think I read a New York Times article about a guy called the "loot loot" who won the lottery. He sort of had trouble with the law, and actually was wearing an ankle braclet at the time he picked up his winning ticket. And then he got arrested a few times after that as well. He did a demolition derby on his front lawn. Then they mentioned something about a thing called a chav, and went into detail.
They also had some controversy as to if this guy should light their some-kind-of-a-tree. |
| darkshadowsseeker | (reply to southernyankee) posted 6-Jan-2006 12:59am |
| they | posted 6-Jan-2006 2:15pm Other...
I do make some assumptions based on one's appearance..... but I'm not judging the person.... I'm just taking them in. I am discriminated against because of my clothing..... I dress a little bit differently than most people.... and have noticed that I am treated a little bit differently as well... |
| cloudhugger | posted 6-Jan-2006 5:29pm hmmm, if I say I don't go near anyone like that would be admitting I am very shallow *changes vote to: I am not bothered unless they appear to be evil. |
| ROCKMAN | posted 7-Jan-2006 10:26am Appearances don't bother me. I might look twice though. |
| CGTREE | posted 8-Jan-2006 12:17am I don't really care what people wear or what ever...I may not agree it looks good to me, but it's their choice. |
| CGTREE | (reply to Iseult) posted 8-Jan-2006 12:19am See those people look retarded....(In my opinion) but it doesn't mean there isn't a person in there some where. |
| Iseult | (reply to CGTREE) posted 8-Jan-2006 11:16am I'm sure there. I mean, I tend to blame most of people's problems on bad parenting... |
| Dino | posted 8-Jan-2006 12:40pm I don't have an answer here to choose from.
I do judge people by they way they dress. For example, if someone was wearing goth clothing I may assume a lot about them that may or may not be true, compared to someone in a suit. But I'm not saying I wouldn't talk to them. Just I would perhaps talk about music with the Goth. |
| CGTREE | (reply to Iseult) posted 9-Jan-2006 7:07am Me too. |
| mrtempler | posted 9-Jan-2006 3:27pm well the guys at my gym always make fun of my dress, its a really low cut old fashioned looking diddy with ruffled sleeves........its a real peach |
| RGirl | posted 15-Jan-2006 11:45pm If my German Shepherd says you are ok, you're ok in my book too. They have the ability to sense if a person is safe, regardless of dress. That is why the armed forces use them at check points. They sense when some one is trying to hide something or just isn't right, up to no good. |
| FauxLo | posted 16-Jan-2006 5:07am |
| xoxoYoUrMoMxoxo | posted 3-Mar-2006 9:10am lol so many ppl call me goth too but im really a kool person, yeah, i have problems, but then again who dont? the reason i voted on stayin away from ppl who look evil is b-cuz they're prob. pissed, so LEAVE THEM ALONE mess with them and ur prolly gunna get the shee-ot beat outta u lol |
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