Are your beliefs predominantly more pantheistic or deistic when you ponder our existence, and why ?

Neither. I don't have beliefs.

in these terms, my beliefs are more atheistic. No master plan, no external meaning, no big "why". These are more human qualities than qualities of the way the world works.

I am neither because Paris Hilton is marrying someone named Paris.

Given the choice between those two, I would describe my beliefs as being more pantheistic. Why? That's a hard question to answer within the confines of this forum. It goes to the root of my beliefs. If I were to explain what my beliefs are and how I've arrived at them, I'd be up all night typing and I doubt that anyone would be interested enough to bother reading it.

If I go to the questions in the "explanation", I would say that it is all of the above. Yes there is destruction, natural disasters, war, hunger, illness, hope and faith. Is there a master plan? I think so. What does it all mean? You have to figure that out for yourself. That is a big part of the meaning as far as I'm concerned. Yes, I think there is "someone" out there. In fact, I think there is lots of someones out there. I view our existence like this:

The universe is infinite. Life is infinite and fills the universe. The universe is God and every speck of matter in the universe is God. God's love pours toward me from every place in the universe. This is bliss.

i dont believe in god

It would take me way too long to explain where I am with my beliefs after 44 years of growing.

O, God? ??

My belief is Christian.

As an atheist, I'm neither. However, I'd be more inclined to believe that the universe is deistic rather than pantheistic. I imagine God in a pan-dimensional rest home for retired deities playing pan-dimensional Scrabble and moaning with other deities about how their respective creations hardly call anymore and how universal constants just "aren't what they used to be".

deistic; pantheistic almost seems as if there really is no higher power

Pantheistic.

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> If I were to explain what my beliefs are and how I've arrived at them,
> I'd be up all night typing and I doubt that anyone would be interested
> enough to bother reading it.
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Don't be so sure that there would be ' no one' interested in reading it. dude, you've been at this site for a long time and people care about what ya say or think.

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> The universe is infinite. Life is infinite and fills the universe.
> The universe is God and every speck of matter in the universe is God.
> God's love pours toward me from every place in the universe. This
> is bliss.

Well said!

Those definitions, neither. I could be described as pantheistic in the way that I believe that the God and the Goddess are everything - part of nature and that includes everything - but I don't include the universe in that, just Earth. So, not really. I'm confused now.

Atheistic.

I think pantheistism makes a bit more sense. I picture that the universe is a self-sustaining blob.

Thank you!

Pantheistic. Everything makes much more sense to me that way.

God couldn't have possibly abandoned the earth because there are miracles every moment of every day. God is the universe, therefore the universe is God. There is a "master plan" but it is never without free will to make choices and changes. There is always another path. And what one may see as tragedy, another may see as a new beginning. Without light, there is dark, without dark there is light. The universe is always going to find balance and it is our choice to either flow with it without compromise or go through life kicking and screaming. When we meet our challenges, we have free will to make choices and to understand we are never alone and we can choose our friends wisely . In a nutshell the universe is what we make it to be and our higher source is what we choose it to be.

YES!!! (The second part)

> Those definitions, neither. I could be described as pantheistic in
> the way that I believe that the God and the Goddess are everything
> - part of nature and that includes everything - but I don't include
> the universe in that, just Earth. So, not really. I'm confused now.
>
Keep it simple, sweetie!

Why just Earth?

> God couldn't have possibly abandoned the earth because there are miracles
> every moment of every day. God is the universe, therefore the universe
> is God. There is a "master plan" but it is never without free will
> to make choices and changes. There is always another path. And what
> one may see as tragedy, another may see as a new beginning. Without
> light, there is dark, without dark there is light. The universe
> is always going to find balance and it is our choice to either flow
> with it without compromise or go through life kicking and screaming.
> When we meet our challenges, we have free will to make choices and
> to understand we are never alone and we can choose our friends wisely
> . In a nutshell the universe is what we make it to be and our higher
> source is what we choose it to be.





"amen" sista!

Neither. Nobody abandoned universe.

that's probably best

I think of the Goddess being the embodiment of our natural cycles and ecosystem - symbolising the fragility of, and being the protector of the earth and I never really imagined it going past that. All of the other planets have their own systems and cycles, and along with that their own Gods and Goddesses. I know that we are all connected by being part of the same solar system, galaxy, universe etc - I do believe that these can influence our lives, but not play a focal part. Hmmm I;ve never really thought about this as deeply before...I probably need to sort this out in my head!

I see

Going by the explanations in the question, I am none of the above.
Pantheism = God is the Universe.
Nup, God created the universe so He cant BE the universe.

Deism = God created, then abandoned the universe.
Nup, God never abandoned what He created.

i am opimistic

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