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| Enheduanna | posted 13-Dec-2004 12:30pm Pablo Neruda, e. e. cummings, Billy Collins. I'm not a huge poetry fan, to be honest, but don't tell my mom--she's a poet! I think her poems are very good, though. |
| jettles | posted 13-Dec-2004 1:45pm hhhmmm, poetry........... i'm not a big poetry fan. |
| anoddoblivion | posted 13-Dec-2004 1:50pm Edgar Alan Poe! All the way! Poe!
The Bells, The Raven, Anabell Lee...Just awesome. His stories are great also. |
| pandora | posted 13-Dec-2004 2:21pm I can't get with poetry too often. I'll always have a soft spot for Alice Walker though. |
| cerealkiller | posted 13-Dec-2004 2:51pm I hate poetry so I would not be able to name anyone. |
| Jody | posted 13-Dec-2004 4:17pm William Shakespeare, John Ciardi, Sara Teasdale, Mary Oliver, Rainer Maria Rilke, Kahlil Gibran, |
| juliw | posted 13-Dec-2004 6:11pm Robert Frost
Emily Dickinso Edgar A Guest Christina G Rosetti Dorothy Parker Rita Dove Dr Seuss |
| ihatespiders | posted 13-Dec-2004 6:31pm Kahil Gibran
Robert Frost Edger Allen Pole William Shakespeare, I like to hear my uncle quote Shakespeare, hes as good as Ritchard Burton. Dr Seuss, My favorite is Green Eggs and Ham. |
| Irene007 | posted 13-Dec-2004 6:45pm I have none... I just like Khalil Gibran's The Prophet but I'm not sure that it's considered poetry. I don't like poetry - it's too flowery for me. |
| caviartaste | posted 13-Dec-2004 7:02pm hmmm.... poets...
William Cullen Bryant Samuel Taylor Coleridge e e cummings Robert Frost Maya Angelou Jerry Reed |
| ElvisFan67 | posted 13-Dec-2004 7:15pm Edgar Allan Poe--and I say that simply because he was a hometown boy. |
| judgescratch | posted 13-Dec-2004 7:26pm I respect the work of Wadsworth Longfellow.
I like what Rod McKuen did, and I'm curious if anyone here likes his stuff. |
| darkshadowsseeker | posted 13-Dec-2004 8:02pm Poe and Shelley are my personal favorites. |
| Galomorro | posted 13-Dec-2004 8:38pm Don't like or understand poetry. It's too abstract for me. If I was to stretch it to rock artists' lyrics, I'd say Bob Dylan; maybe Jim Morrison; maybe Eminem. But regular poets, nope -- never could get into any of that stuff. |
| autumnlight | posted 13-Dec-2004 9:12pm I'm not a poetry fan, but I do remember enjoying Ted Hughes' poetry at school. |
| Jemmy | posted 13-Dec-2004 11:31pm I'm not a big fan of poetry. Unless you count old poetry. I like the Odyssey, but that's not a poem it's a song. Dante's the divine comedy is a poem, and I loved that. I also love Dr. Seuss. Very intelligent, my favorites are The Butter Battle and Oh the Places You'll Go. |
| they | posted 14-Dec-2004 12:54am I like Poe's Annabel Lee, The Raven, and The Telltale Heart...
I usually don't like poetry though. |
| icurok | posted 14-Dec-2004 6:47am I'm not into poetry, but Phillip Larkin is ok. |
| Iseult | posted 14-Dec-2004 12:06pm Yeats is my absolute favourite, but I also like Earl of Rochester, William Blake, Sappho, Ovid (just the beginning of Metamorphoses makes it all worth it... in nova fert animus mutatas dicere formas corpora; di, coeptis (nam vos mutastis et illas) adspirate meis primaque ab origine mundi ad mea perpetuum deducite tempora carmen!), Chaucer, Donne, and Percy Shelly Bysshe. |
| spidertea | posted 14-Dec-2004 12:15pm Adrienne Rich! |
| spidertea | (reply to Irene007) posted 14-Dec-2004 12:17pm Not all poetry is flowery. Some is really honest and raw. I didn't discover good poetry unitl college. I hated the crap they had us read in high school, too formal. |
| moonstone | posted 14-Dec-2004 12:22pm Scott Jamerson and Colin Brown |
| thevelvetcure | posted 14-Dec-2004 3:06pm EA Poe
true haikus I typically don't read other's poetry, I'd much rather write my own |
| thevelvetcure | (reply to ElvisFan67) posted 14-Dec-2004 3:08pm Which home town? I know he lived in Baltimore and Philadelphia, I visited one of his homes in downtown Philly, VERY weird, 1 room wide, 3 rooms deep, and 3 stories high, was the original structure. |
| ElvisFan67 | (reply to thevelvetcure) posted 14-Dec-2004 7:36pm I think he was born in my hometown of Charlottesville, VA--at least, there's a statue of him on the University of Virginia campus. And I think I've read somewhere that he was born in Charlottesville. You can Google him up and see if that's actually his hometown and let me know if you wish. |
| ElvisFan67 | (reply to caviartaste) posted 14-Dec-2004 7:39pm Are you talking about the Jerry Reed (Guitar Man/Cledus Snow/Snowman/"When you're hot, you're hot")? |
| caviartaste | (reply to ElvisFan67) posted 14-Dec-2004 9:47pm why yes I am! My favorite is Today is Mine: When the sun came up this morning I took the time to watch it rise. As its beauty struck the darkness from the skies. I thought how small and unimportant all my troubles seem to be, and how lucky another day belongs to me. And as the sleepy world around me woke up to greet the day, and all its silent beauty seemed to say: So what, my friend, if all your dreams you haven't realized. Look around, you got a whole new day to try. Today is mine, today is mine, to do with what I will. Today is mine. My own special cup to fill. To die a little that I might learn to live. And take from life that I might learn to give. Today is mine. With all men I curse the present that seems void of peace of mind, and race my thoughts beyond tomorrow and vision there more peace of mind. But when I view the day around me I can see the fool I've been. For today is the only garden we can tend. Today is mine, today is mine, to do with what I will. Today is mine. My own special cup to fill. To die a little that I might learn to live. And take from life that I might learn to give. Today is mine. |
| ElvisFan67 | (reply to caviartaste) posted 14-Dec-2004 10:37pm I remember that one, too. It was used as the theme song for the fishing show Bill Dance Outdoors. Another good one he wrote was "A Thing Called Love", which was recorded by Johnny Cash and by Elvis on his He Touched Me album. |
| thevelvetcure | (reply to ElvisFan67) posted 14-Dec-2004 11:35pm you lazy bum Actually all sources are pointing towards Boston, he attended the University of Virginia. |
| caviartaste | (reply to ElvisFan67) posted 15-Dec-2004 7:33am yes, it was.... I used to watch it every saturday morning with my Dad. He's a big fisherman. I remember hearing that song in my head jillions of times as I saw the sun come up over the water...watching the mist roll away. Feels like I know exactly what he meant... lol. You know he and Bill Dance have been good friends for a long time too....
Yeah - he's written some incredibly gorgeous lyrics, and some people don't know it but Jerry was discovered and studied directly under Chet Atkins himself, and performed with him as a duet in Nashville before recording albums on his own. He is heavily influenced by him, despite his own unique finger-picking style. I don't really like country music - but Jerry Reed is in a class all by himself as far as I'm concerned. His talent is amazing. |
| ElvisFan67 | (reply to caviartaste) posted 15-Dec-2004 10:25pm Yeah, Chet discovered virtually everyone who recorded for RCA. He was the producer on a lot of country stars' RCA albums. |
| ElvisFan67 | (reply to thevelvetcure) posted 15-Dec-2004 10:28pm Yeah, I knew he had some type of connection with UVA and Charlottesville.
And yes, I'll admit, I do get a little lazy at times. |
| caviartaste | (reply to ElvisFan67) posted 15-Dec-2004 10:43pm yeah - he was truly an awe....the einstein of guitar |
| Irene007 | (reply to spidertea) posted 15-Dec-2004 11:01pm What can you recommend to enlighten me? |
| Iseult | (reply to thevelvetcure) posted 15-Dec-2004 11:43pm > I typically don't read other's poetry, I'd much
> rather write my own Show me some. |
| Iseult | (reply to Irene007) posted 15-Dec-2004 11:46pm Try Jewel's poetry or Leonard Cohen's poetry. That's the best advice I, an English Minor, can give you. If you don't like them, tell me, I'll find you someone you'll like. |
| Irene007 | (reply to Iseult) posted 15-Dec-2004 11:54pm I'll count on it! Not too long k? Just in case I don't like it! |
| spidertea | (reply to Irene007) posted 16-Dec-2004 12:28am Adrienne Rich
Justin Chin to name a few |
| Iseult | (reply to Irene007) posted 16-Dec-2004 12:30am Leonard Cohen:
http://members.tripod.com/%7ERaincloud771/poetry/c... http://members.tripod.com/%7ERaincloud771/poetry/c... http://members.tripod.com/%7ERaincloud771/poetry/c... http://members.tripod.com/%7ERaincloud771/poetry/c... http://members.tripod.com/%7ERaincloud771/poetry/c... Jewel: http://www.foolishgames.com/jewel/poetry/nightwith... They're all short, your majesty. |
| thevelvetcure | (reply to Iseult) posted 16-Dec-2004 4:53am Actually it's on my computer of which the hard drive has been scrubbed. The lastest few have been traditional haikus...go figure. |
| moviesnob | posted 16-Dec-2004 5:43am Byron |
| Irene007 | (reply to Iseult) posted 16-Dec-2004 7:47am I dunno... It all sounds like song lyrics to me...
I have much imagination and I love to read but somehow poetry requires too much imagery between each line to follow the thought. All of those sounded like so many "bedroom poets", wiling the time away and writing out of loneliness and/or a broken heart. Got anything with a little more "meat"? |
| Irene007 | (reply to spidertea) posted 16-Dec-2004 7:56am > Adrienne Rich
> Justin Chin > > to name a few OK... I tried. What the hell does this mean? "Orion plunges like a drunken hunter over the Mohawk Trail a parallelogram slashed with two cuts of steel" What's it got to do with Emily Dickinson's house? Taken from "This is my third and last address to you" http://www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/poets/m_r/rich/on... |
| Irene007 | (reply to spidertea) posted 16-Dec-2004 8:15am I just read some Justin Chin. I guess I just don't get it... "Surrealist Bookmark", "Apocryphal Medicine"? Seems to me that I have a lot more important things to do and read. http://www.frigatezine.com/bio/biojchin.html Somehow I imagine good poetry to be something from the past or has poetry always been but someone's muse? The more I read poetry, the more it resembles the "artsy-fartsy" part of the artists' world. One lucky strike of a brush and a balanced, eye pleasing harmony of colours is created. This type of artist didn't plan the painting, it just happened yet admirers will stand and coo, patting them on the back. Modern art is too often an escape for untalented people who can't really draw just like poetry is too often the escape for people who can't really write. Good modern art is out there just as surely as good poetry is. One must sift through all the garbage in order to find it though... |
| Iseult | (reply to thevelvetcure) posted 16-Dec-2004 2:03pm Can I read one of those? |
| Iseult | (reply to Irene007) posted 16-Dec-2004 2:09pm Well, I recomend Yeats to everyone, because he's my absolutely favourite poet, but I don't know if you'd like him. http://www.online-literature.com/yeats/818/ and http://www.online-literature.com/yeats/816/
However, Keats is more down to earth. http://englishhistory.net/keats/poetry/humanseason... and http://englishhistory.net/keats/poetry/chapmanshom... My two favourite poems are Marlowe's "The Passionate Shepherd to his Love" http://www.rjgeib.com/thoughts/shepherd/shepherd.h... and Releigh's reply to it, "The Nymph's Reply to the Shepherd" http://www.englishverse.com/poems/the_nymphs_reply... I'd find you some Earl of Rochester stuff, they're hilarious, especially when he insulting stuff in his poems, one of those things being his penis, but I searched, and I can't find any of his poetry online (at least not any good ones). |
| caviartaste | posted 16-Dec-2004 10:48pm I had melancholy soul last night
I saw my future in your past When I would meet you and things were not so wrong anymore But I have seen the past before Through so many other eyes And I never knew until your heart spoke to mine Love could be so pure - without words Your eyes see me like no other I had a melancholy soul last night When I saw my future in you passed The realization that I would come to know life without you Threw me so far backward in time To the pain I knew Before I ever looked into your eyes And loved you so.. ~caviar |
| thevelvetcure | (reply to Iseult) posted 16-Dec-2004 10:49pm As soon as I get to my parents and find the disk that I saved them to sure. Let me see if I can find my ancient website for you. |
| Irene007 | (reply to Iseult) posted 17-Dec-2004 12:29am This is the one thing that really bugs me (and throws me off tract) about poetry; the lack of punctuation - this is the way it is written;
WHY should I blame her that she filled my days With misery, or that she would of late Have taught to ignorant men most violent ways, Or hurled the little streets upon the great. Had they but courage equal to desire? What could have made her peaceful with a mind That nobleness made simple as a fire, With beauty like a tightened bow, a kind That is not natural in an age like this, Being high and solitary and most stern? Why, what could she have done, being what she is? Was there another Troy for her to burn? Could it not be written with proper punctuation and still be called poetry??? WHY should I blame her that she filled my days with misery? Or that she would, of late, have taught to ignorant men most violent ways? Or hurled the little streets upon the great? Had they but courage equal to desire? What could have made her peaceful with a mind that nobleness made simple as a fire? With beauty like a tightened bow? A kind that is not natural in an age like this, being high and solitary and most stern? Why, what could she have done, being what she is? Was there another Troy for her to burn? This lack, which is not always so obvious, is what throws me and makes me loose my interest because I have to re-read it to get the message. It's often like so many personal thoughts just strung together without consideration for the reader... |
| Irene007 | (reply to Iseult) posted 17-Dec-2004 12:31am See? Look above! Even Caviar can write the stuff!! (Hers made more sense than most published stuff I've read! Does this make it bad poetry?) ... I'm so confused! |
| Irene007 | (reply to Iseult) posted 17-Dec-2004 12:35am Four Seasons fill the Measure of the year;
Four Seasons are there in the mind of Man. He hath his lusty spring when fancy clear Takes in all beauty with an easy span: He hath his Summer, when luxuriously He chews the honied cud of fair spring thoughts, Till, in his Soul dissolv'd they come to be Part of himself. He hath his Autumn ports And Havens of repose, when his tired wings Are folded up, and he content to look On Mists in idleness: to let fair things Pass by unheeded as a threshhold brook. He hath his Winter too of pale Misfeature, Or else he would forget his mortal nature. This is the kind I consider too "flowery". Being bilingual, I choose to read English books, labels, directions etc. and never the French versions. Why? Just because written French is not really the way we speak it but the English version is. So I tend to use the English because the French is so convoluted! Just like poetry! |
| Zang | posted 17-Dec-2004 1:09am Greg Corso
Dylan Thomas William Butler Yeats Arthur Rimbaud Guillaume Apollinaire Charles Baudelaire Allen Ginsberg Lawrence Ferlinghetti E.E. Cummings Samuel Taylor Coleridge Edgar Allan Poe Leonard Cohen |
| heyzeus1 | posted 17-Dec-2004 3:18am ed vedder.
neil young |
| heyzeus1 | (reply to moonstone) posted 17-Dec-2004 3:19am ha! see how vain i am? i only answered this survey to see if anybody mentioned me. |
| Iseult | (reply to thevelvetcure) posted 17-Dec-2004 10:53am Most of the times you do have to re-read and re-read and re-read. I've read No Second Troy myriad times and I still read it over and over and I'm still not fully sure what some lines mean. The reason the lines are broken down is to suit the rhyming patterns and because of the meter. Notice how at the end of each line each line is marked with a stress so even though when you read the poem, you read it as few big sentences, but you still know it's the end of the line.
If you want something REALLY non-flowery, then check out Emily Dickinson (http://www.online-literature.com/dickinson/), she's what you'd call a 'minimalist'. I am not as knowledgable as I should be about Modern poety, mostly because I think 99% of it is crap, but you'd like it. Maybe. |
| Iseult | (reply to Irene007) posted 17-Dec-2004 10:53am If you want, I'll show you some of my poetry. It's better than Shakespeare's, but shh, tell no one! |
| moonstone | (reply to heyzeus1) posted 17-Dec-2004 11:04am hehe..well, its true! |
| moonstone | (reply to heyzeus1) posted 17-Dec-2004 11:05am hehehe...not vain, it's being 'confident', right? |
| thevelvetcure | (reply to Iseult) posted 17-Dec-2004 1:28pm |
| thevelvetcure | (reply to Iseult) posted 17-Dec-2004 1:30pm I'd also like to give credit to Beowulf, though there is no single author identified. |
| Iseult | (reply to Irene007) posted 17-Dec-2004 5:51pm Most of the times you do have to re-read and re-read and re-read. I've read No Second Troy myriad times and I still read it over and over and I'm still not fully sure what some lines mean. The reason the lines are broken down is to suit the rhyming patterns and because of the meter. Notice how at the end of each line each line is marked with a stress so even though when you read the poem, you read it as few big sentences, but you still know it's the end of the line.
If you want something REALLY non-flowery, then check out Emily Dickinson ( http://www.online-literature.com/dickinson/ ), she's what you'd call a 'minimalist'. I am not as knowledgable as I should be about Modern poety, mostly because I think 99% of it is crap, but you'd like it. Maybe. |
| Iseult | (reply to thevelvetcure) posted 17-Dec-2004 5:54pm Oh yeah, I didn't notice. It's because I got both yours and Irene's reply at the same time, and I forgot to change the little thingy.
Yes, it's always the older stuff that sucks really badly, eh? But not recently. When I got back home, I went through my folders where I document all the things I've ever written, and I read some stuff, and it's really, really good, and it's not really, really good just because I wrote it. Even before I learnt about meter, I would adhere to the rules uncousciously. Guess it's in my blood. |
| spidertea | (reply to Irene007) posted 18-Dec-2004 12:50am Poetry like art is extremely subjective. There is probably someone out there that you'd like, it's a matter of finding it. I actually like very few poets.
I thought Surrealist Bookmark was funny. I didn't like that Rich poem either. I like her books "Diving into the Wreck" and "Your Native Land, Your Life" much more. She has SO much work (writing for 50 years) that I care LOVE some of her stuff, others I'm not so hot for. So, what do you read? |
| Irene007 | (reply to Iseult) posted 18-Dec-2004 8:46am So show me!
Thanks for the Dickinson link - I think it's the first time I've read any... Frankly, it's not bad at all. Like spidertea says; poetry is extremely subjective. I guess it's not really my cup of tea... |
| Irene007 | (reply to spidertea) posted 18-Dec-2004 9:03am > Poetry like art is extremely subjective. There is probably someone
> out there that you'd like, it's a matter of finding it. I actually > like very few poets. I just read some Emily Dickinson (thanks to Iseult's link) and liked the first one I read! There is no frigate like a book To take us lands away, Nor any coursers like a page Of prancing poetry. This traverse may the poorest take Without oppress of toll; How frugal is the chariot That bears a human soul! I read just about anything. My whole family likes to read and have different interests so since we trade books - the gamut of subjects really varies. My brother is into ships and arctic explorers, I like history and many of his books are interesting to me because of the historic content of past explorers. I read all the time, lunch break at work is sacred to me; I have both my favourite things right under my nose - my book and my plate! If I have to wait for anything without a book, I'll find something, anything to read. I am prepared for emergencies though; I have 2 miniature books in my wallet - Homer's "Iliad" and "Odyssey". They're only 1 1/4" x 1" x 1/4" so they're obviously condensed versions! It's no wonder I like Dickinson's poem up above! My brother says that I read so much in order to escape reality. There may be some truth to that... |
| Iseult | (reply to thevelvetcure) posted 18-Dec-2004 12:44pm I like Shards of Glass at My Feet. I often use that imagery in my poems, too. I don't have my current poem writing book with me, it's in Charlottetown, but as I can remember, this is how one of the lines goes 'distant broken glass / through sanity it does pass / through my feet and up to my heart / where death begins the bleeding starts'. Willow is also beautiful. I can't help it, but poems have to rhyme. Reincarnation is kind of philosophical. It reminds me of Lucretius' De Rerum Natura. Hallowed is also beautiful. You should revise it and rework it, though. Maybe add punctuation? But what I realized not everybody likes using punctuation. I use to in order to help me say things more clearly, to add emphazise, and not everybody wants to do that. One might want to totally get rid of it.
Your early poetry is very mediocre, however, it shows potential. You have a way with words and you're not bad either at grouping your thoughts. Personally, I find your language to be too monotone, very minimalistic, and minimalism is a movement I appreciate in every kind of art EXCEPT writing. You can always use that to your advantage in painting a livelier picture of today's society, in the way which you see it. The thing about poetry is not to adopt yourself so you adhere to what the norms of poetry are, but rather to take your stranghts, your style, and things your love, and adopt them to the reader, make them beautiful. |
| Iseult | (reply to Irene007) posted 18-Dec-2004 12:58pm Okay, I'm picking these out specially for you:
I AM I am created from the humid earth, morther Nature gave me strenght for rebirth. And mother natured gave me all the charm though it's not charm, but blistering harm. I was blessed with acidic stones, which formed my skeleton and my bones; And to be blessed on the well-nigh grave which, physically, nobody does crave. I will be flying through highest branches and scarring my body as though they were whipping lances, to scar me from ever feeling inner peace, to threaten my full-hearted decease. Can you identify the allusion of the next one: LUCRECE'S DISTRESS Which is, of course, the part of the whole problem the wind which is seething through me can only be describe as a quasi-strong currency. And then they try to rip out all that is left from her; the jealous bastards from the end of the world. They try to kill the last hope buried deep in Lucrece's den. VERMILLION ROSE Vertical grace upon a vermillion rose rises as clouds choose to close over my head, spitting towards the sky, from my grave and hence to where vermillion lies; To stricken the veil of shimmering doubts boundaries extend to follow you around, where earth touches shimmering ground, where hyacinth grows to fill our graces that last so long to knock our faces. Parody Queen Club cages and hyacinth, that's all that I mean, that's all that I want, Many a wont to persuade you from the 'Don't!'. Mortal gages and methamphetamine, monolith to crash your scene, monolith to break you down, Take away your never-earned crown. Many days of year to pass, our inaffection finally does last, but it reflects from the first time from the dullness of your eyes. Screaming through the podium many words, all odious, screaming through hyacinth, killing us, or so it seems. ECHONIA'S WAYS In her dark, erotic ways she chooses to say: 'That all that is blessed can be carressed but under the gossomer veil.' My teacher pulled me after the class last year and asked me whether I'm suicidal because of this poem: MAYBE Maybe I should stop Living in a moment, Living up a whole life's aim In a second’s worth - Maybe they’re after me But I don’t even know it. Air is fumes And fumes do hurt. Maybe I should stop Recognizing my value And let the rest Show me the score - Maybe I should pay Some free-spirited valour, Let them enjoy, Ask for nothing more. Okay, just two more, and I'll stop. LISTEN TO MY HARANGUE Listen to them: Those faithful chums of frigid air. That ensnare my soul of the Midian, but beware, That I have wronged and sinned in the past But through such atrocity I could not last. I have born a veil and played a cheerful dirge, Opposed to all that tried to rejoice and surge, But have I sinned?, wicked spell have I cast?, Through such atrocity I could not last. And there you are, beaten and acerbic. No Midian can help me get through this. Such a lie I choose not to trust, Through such atrocity I cannot last. You are singed: beaten and churlish; I'll reason you, we'll go through this. Together to segregate what's left of dust - through such atrocity could I not last? Listen to them, those faithful chums of frigid cold. Listen to them, high, mighty and bold, They shall on your terrible lies cast but through such atrocity I shall not dare last. And my ABSOLUTE favourite: TRESSPASS THE SEVEN GATES My hatred is engulfing me, Robust hammer given to thee, To bludgeon my heard, since this doctrine Is as bad as love supreme. To fight up there in Elysium, Myriad battles, summoning gloom, To let crows pick at your grave, Observe your face at how they behave. With hammer and sword and gloom. To smell your noxious perfume. In smirched blood to fight many battles, To die not in shame but with sound of rattles. Abandon faith in God absolutely, Love has taken life out of me, Vapir rumours, death supreme, Cutting the frills of her bloody seam. |
| thevelvetcure | (reply to Iseult) posted 18-Dec-2004 3:50pm I'm in agreeance with you, the latter grouping listed are much better, granted I've somewhat done completely done away with all rhyming scheme, it all depends on how something feels to me, which is th emost important factor in my opinion, Expressing myself, and getting it out there. |
| Irene007 | (reply to Iseult) posted 18-Dec-2004 7:34pm gosh darn! That's as good as any poetry I've ever read!!
Can you identify the allusion of the next one: LUCRECE'S DISTRESS Rome? I read all of these (in fact, read and re-read them all) and gathered my own conclusions and/or allusions from them. I'd like you to tell me where you're mind was or what you were alluding too when you wrote them. Like I mentioned before, poetry to me is like modern art; you can look at it and find your own emotions/interpretations or be lucky enough to interview the artist and see if he has any depth/talent at all. Frankly, with my poetic ignorance; I think you really have something! |
| Iseult | (reply to thevelvetcure) posted 18-Dec-2004 10:57pm You are a true modern poet. Modern literature it all about personalification and breaking the rules, and making it work for you. And I just love how you use some archaic words. Although many people consider it a faux pas of poetry, I don't think so. |
| Iseult | (reply to Irene007) posted 18-Dec-2004 11:02pm I'm flattered. My ego is already over-inflated, compliments just make it bigger.
Yes, Lucrece's distress is an allusion to Rome. However, Shakespeare wrote a long, long, long poem on the act of rape of Lucretia (you know the story, seven kings of Rome, Tarquinius Superbus the last one who was expelled from Rome by Lucius Junius Brutus and Tarquinius Collatinus for raping Lucretia, who later killed herself). Although I prefer Lucretia, I was honouring Shakespeare in this one by saying Lucrece. |
| thevelvetcure | (reply to Iseult) posted 19-Dec-2004 1:19am Words or spelling? If it's the spellings, it's my draw towards medieval times |
| Irene007 | (reply to Iseult) posted 19-Dec-2004 7:38am So... Briefly; where was your head or what were you alluding to when you wrote them? (Besides Lucrece's Distress) |
| Iseult | (reply to thevelvetcure) posted 19-Dec-2004 12:34pm Well, it's both really. Like naught. I like that word. So... archaic |
| Iseult | (reply to Irene007) posted 19-Dec-2004 12:34pm I felt cheated at that time, and I compared myself to Lucretia. |
| Irene007 | (reply to Iseult) posted 19-Dec-2004 4:35pm Cheated? By a guy? |
| Iseult | (reply to Irene007) posted 19-Dec-2004 7:21pm No, just as a person. |
| Irene007 | (reply to Iseult) posted 20-Dec-2004 7:51am I hate to sound so condescending but you'll grow out of those feelings!! |
| spidertea | (reply to Irene007) posted 20-Dec-2004 12:35pm Dickinson is excellent. I have her comeplete works. She inspired a lot of poets.
I'd go crazy too if I couldn't read! |
| Iseult | (reply to Irene007) posted 20-Dec-2004 1:15pm Oh, I already did. That's how I get back at people - I write hateful poems about them. Or if I'm really pissed, I'll write them in a book or a story and have them go through a hell. |
| Irene007 | (reply to spidertea) posted 20-Dec-2004 7:02pm Hey! I'd even read poetry if nothing else was around! |
| Irene007 | (reply to Iseult) posted 20-Dec-2004 7:04pm > Oh, I already did. That's how I get back at people - I write hateful
> poems about them. Or if I'm really pissed, I'll write them in a book > or a story and have them go through a hell. Hmmm... I'd better keep you on my good side! |
| ghettoman | posted 22-Dec-2004 9:07am i would have to say my own work....i write poems and even though i am only 15 that doesnt mean anything....i have shared alot of my poem to family members and friends and people i dont know and everybody gave me nothing but compliments about them so i am just going to keep writing..................................... |
| Iseult | (reply to ghettoman) posted 22-Dec-2004 8:46pm Would you care to share some here? |
| ghettoman | (reply to Iseult) posted 23-Dec-2004 9:32am This is one of my poems that i wrote after my best gurlfriend dumped me.........its called "It's All Over"
Theres one phrase Id like to say to you and nobody else and todays the day How you made me feel how you left me alone seemed like on my head, i was wearin' a cone Theres nothing left between us so why not run back to Phil and when your done with that ill be in the mood to kill that nite was a dark one so dark i couldnt see but now the light has come bak and bitc**n' at you helps me see i dont care about you anymore and now ive come out from under this cover an say what i needed to say... ...ITS ALL OVER... written by :GhettoMan |
| quackabook | posted 23-Dec-2004 4:09pm Humorous American poets are my favorites. Here are a few samples.
Jane Wagner, From The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe "But my fears are more subtle. Like I fear being out of work, and yet when I'm working, I have this constant fear of being fired. The worst fear I have is that this feeling I once had may come back." -------------------------------------------------------------- Ishmael Reed, Sermonette a poet was busted by a topless judge his friends went to morristwn nj & put black powder on his honah's doorstep black powder into his honah's car black powder on his honah's briefs tiny dolls into his honah's mind by nightfall his honah could a go no mo his dog went crazy & ran into a crocodile his widow fell from a wall & hanged herself his daughter was run over by a black man coming home for the wakes the two boys skidded into morning all the next of kin's teeth fell out gimmie dat ol time religion it's good enough for me! -------------------------------------------------------------- Charlotte Perkins Gilman, Queer People The people people work with best Are often very queer, The people people own by birth Quite shock your first idea; The people people choose for friends. Your common sense appall, But the people people marry Are queerest ones of all. -------------------------------------------------------------- Judith Viorst, From Self-Improvement I've finished six pillows in Needlepoint, and I'm reading Jane Austin and Kant, And I'm up to the pork with black beans in Advanced Chinese Cooking. I don't have to struggle to find myself For I already know what I want. I want to be healthy and wise and extremely good- looking. -------------------------------------------------------------- Shel Silverstein, Friendship Ive discovered a way to stay friends forever-- There's really nothing to it. I simply tell you what to do And you do it! |
| lyrical_miracle | posted 2-Jan-2005 4:44pm nikki giovanni , maya angelou , antwone fisher , pablo neruda , emily dickinson , ernest hemingway , william shakespeare...to name a few. i write poetry and like some i feel i can never really get my point across and i conitnue to ramble. here's a short one that came to me just now...
my thoughts hav now bcome backwards twistd along w/ tha thoughts of a socializing society i tried 2 go and get my own getaway but it bcame invaded so i had 2 get away i was 1nce and mayb still am a poet but i let 2 many people know it and they slowly wantd 2 c tha very thing that had bcame a part of me i wantd some thing 2 call my own but i realized i wasn't alone she haunts my every daydream and i can't get away it seems after i thought i had given all i could give i found out she was tha very reason i lived so mayb i was and didn't know it a modern day hip hop punk rock urban/surburban poet lyrical miracle |
| regis | posted 6-Jan-2005 7:34am amy lowell
edna st vincent millay (plus a bunch of folks who've already been listed) |
| Biggles | posted 10-Jan-2005 3:52pm Ralph Hodgson, GK Chesterton, my brother, William Shakespeare, Rupert Brooke, Wilfred Owen, Robert Louis Stevenson, Rudyard Kipling, William Blake, Samuel Coleridge, John Donne, Alfred Tennyson, Ted Hughes, Walter de la Mere...there are others but it's so hard to just list them. My tastes generally lean towards 19th century and early to mid 20th century English poetry but that may be because that's what I've been mostly exposed to rather than a reflection of what I'd think of other periods/countries. |
| Updown | posted 11-Jan-2005 3:31pm William Blake, William Shakespeare, and Mark McLaurin. |
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