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When you use Latin words and expressions in speech, which pronunciation do you employ?

Classical Latin - http://www.orbilat.com/Languages/Latin/Grammar/Lat...
Church (Medieval) Latin - http://www.metrosingers.org/latin.html



VotesAnswer
10It's all Greek to me...
9I am not aware the way I pronounce the Latin words
5Classical
4I am not aware of usage of any Latin words or expressions/I don't use any Latin words or descriptions when I talk
2I use whichever one is appropriate for the time the word or expression originates from
1Medieval
1I pronounce Latin in my own original way
1Other
0English pronunciation (sine die becomes sign dye)
0I pronounce them in a different way (not listed above)

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Pomeranian
posted 23-Aug-2004 12:23pm  
I use the pronunciation I learned in Latin class.
Enheduanna Survey Central Subscriber
posted 23-Aug-2004 12:31pm  
I think it varies. For instance, I say "venny veedy veechy" not "wenny weedy wikki." But I would also say "salway" not "salvay." I guess in part it depends on if it was something I learned in Latin class, or if it was something I learned somewhere else.
moviesnob
posted 23-Aug-2004 1:43pm  
???
Dino
posted 23-Aug-2004 3:30pm  
Sorry, you lost me!
Danger
posted 23-Aug-2004 6:38pm  
i'm not sure if i use latin words, but if i do, i pronounce them in my own way probably (aka Wrong)
Violet
posted 23-Aug-2004 10:50pm  
Classical, because that's the pronunciation I was taught when I studied Latin.
LuridHope
posted 24-Aug-2004 12:04am  
Me think me talk pretty good, me no have problem speak latin good too.
Emay inkthay athay ouyay aryay ootay artsmay orfay emay.
Biggles Bronze Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
posted 24-Aug-2004 7:01am  
I just open my mouth and out they come. And sometimes people look at me in horror. And laugh. Oh God, how they laugh! The problem with being at a university where a good half of all the students have studied Latin at school.
Iseult Survey Central Subscriber Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
(reply to Biggles) posted 24-Aug-2004 9:36am  
Oh, don't worry, I do that to people, too. But I don't just laugh, I try to help them, too. See, just yesterday, I was teaching my dad how to properly pronounce the law phrases in Classical pronunciation.
romkey Survey Central Gold Subscriber
(reply to Biggles) posted 24-Aug-2004 9:38am  
It's best if they laugh in Latin. If they forget to laugh in Latin, then you can be laughing right back at them for their faux pas.
ROCKMAN
posted 24-Aug-2004 9:57am  
I don't have a clue. It's all Greek to me. I like that choice.
Zang
posted 24-Aug-2004 10:26am  
I checked out the links when this was in qualification. I can't be bothered to go to all the work involved in figuring this out.
Biggles Bronze Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
(reply to romkey) posted 24-Aug-2004 12:26pm  
 * laughing out loud *
Biggles Bronze Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
(reply to Iseult) posted 24-Aug-2004 12:27pm  
I can do the basic ones that everyone knows, but if I just look at a line in Latin, I don't have a clue. Have you studied Latin in school, or just by yourself?
Iseult Survey Central Subscriber Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
(reply to Biggles) posted 24-Aug-2004 1:10pm  
I've studied Latin for last three years in school, but our teacher was not the best one. He was smart and everything, but he didn't apply right pressure on students to learn and his rules were too lax.
I'm studying Latin next year, too. I took Latin 101 and Latin 102 to have it throughout the year, not just in one semester.
Iseult Survey Central Subscriber Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
(reply to Zang) posted 24-Aug-2004 1:11pm  
I can help you, how would you pronounce 'veni vidi vici'?
Biggles Bronze Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
(reply to Iseult) posted 24-Aug-2004 1:13pm  
What else are you doing? You're focusing on English and Classics, right? But within that, do you get quite a bit of choice?
Iseult Survey Central Subscriber Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
(reply to Biggles) posted 24-Aug-2004 1:36pm  
I'm doing my major in Classics and minor in English. My courses:
Anthropology 101
Latin 101
Philosophy 101
English Lit (Survey of English Literature form the Beginning til 1785) 201
Classics (Mythology) 121

Second Semester:
History (Canadian History Post-Confederation) 102 (I am so changing this one, I don't know why the fudge did they give me that one since I specified that I want Pre-Confederation so I can learn about the Indians and the British)
Greek Civilizations 101
Academic Writing 101
English (Survey for LIterature 1785-Present) 202
Latin 102

What courses are you taking? I dunno waht I want to do for MA, I really like Byzantium, but then again I want to try to specify on the original Roman Monarchy, with Lucretia and Tarquinus.
Biggles Bronze Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
(reply to Biggles) posted 24-Aug-2004 2:12pm  
That all sounds really interesting  * smile * What's academic writing? How to write academic papers or studying old academic writing?

There's not much choice in my degree - I have certain subjects that I have to do and even the modules that I've picked have certain required courses within them, but I do get to pick some. I've narrowed down quite a bit now I'm in my final year (I can't believe I only have a year left!) but this is what I'll be doing this year:

Animal Biology
Entomology
The Origin and Evolution of the Mammals
Animal Behaviour
Biomechanics, Movement and Migration

Animal and Plant Disease (except, I'm not taking any plant disease options)
Parasite Genetics I
Parasite Genetics II
Mathematical Models of Infectious Disease
Mechanisms of Host Resistance (Immunology)
Vector-borne disease
Case-studies in Epidemiology

You'll probably get a much better idea about your MA as you get going with your course. I was convinced that I wanted to be a geneticist before I studied it at degree level! Yeesh!!! Instead, I've fallen completely in love with disease - I love all the nasty worms and arthropods that make people sick because they're just so fascinating. I would never have predicted that  * smile *

You're so lucky, being at the start of your university time - it's so much fun. I'm feeling all old and like a finalist which isn't all fun and games. A year from now, I will have left Oxford. I'm going to miss it so much  * frown *
Iseult Survey Central Subscriber Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
(reply to Biggles) posted 25-Aug-2004 7:59am  
That's a good question - let me check:
101 ACADEMIC WRITING
(Offered every semester)
This course offers an introduction to university writing and rhetoric, aimed at the
development of clear, critical thinking and an effective prose style.
Three hours a week
NOTE: THIS COURSE IS A GRADUATION REQUIREMENT FOR ALL UNDERGRADUATE
STUDENTS EXCEPT DVM AND BEd CANDIDATES.

Oh, you'll do just fine. What are you doing next year? MSc? Oh wait, you have Latin acronyms for degrees, don't you? My Classics teacher did his PhD on Oxford and all of his stuff was in Latin.

I remember when I wanted to do Biology... but I just strongly oppose genetic changing and fudging-up-with, even concerning making medicines (I am not against it, I just find it wrong) that I could not take it morally.
Biggles Bronze Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
(reply to Iseult) posted 25-Aug-2004 8:29am  
At one point didn't you want to genetically engineer your own children? I found that a little disturbing!

After my BA (it would be a BSc but Oxford calls every undergraduate degree a BA) I want to go and do an MSc - probably in London or Liverpool - in infectious disease.
Iseult Survey Central Subscriber Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
(reply to Biggles) posted 25-Aug-2004 9:54am  
Yeah, well, that was a long time ago. Before I gave it a bit of a thought. And it was probably when I was 14/15, and I still hadn't matured at that age.
Biggles Bronze Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
(reply to Iseult) posted 25-Aug-2004 10:25am  
How young we were when we first came to SC  * smile *
Iseult Survey Central Subscriber Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
(reply to Biggles) posted 25-Aug-2004 10:56am  
I was 14. I can't believe that I spent last four years on SC.
Biggles Bronze Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
(reply to Iseult) posted 25-Aug-2004 12:10pm  
I was 15 when I first came here - it's been about 5 years for me! Some of the most formative years of our lives  * smile *
Iseult Survey Central Subscriber Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
(reply to Biggles) posted 25-Aug-2004 1:42pm  
That's so weird when you think about it. I swear, 'How SC Helped Me Mature' and 'How SC Raised Me' would make a very good theses.
thevelvetcure
posted 25-Aug-2004 3:43pm  
I have difficulty reading phonetics anyways, so even if I knew, I couldn't tell you
Biggles Bronze Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
(reply to Iseult) posted 25-Aug-2004 4:00pm  
They really would, and it's so true  * smile * God, I love this site!
Iseult Survey Central Subscriber Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
(reply to Biggles) posted 25-Aug-2004 6:13pm  
Me, too.
Zang
(reply to Iseult) posted 27-Aug-2004 10:10am  
Rhymes with Penny, Kiddie, Itchy.
Iseult Survey Central Subscriber Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
(reply to Zang) posted 27-Aug-2004 10:42am  
It's Medieval/Church Latin.
In Classical latin, you pronounce c's like you pronounce them in Gaelic - as though as they were k's. So it's vikki not vichy.
Zang
(reply to Iseult) posted 27-Aug-2004 4:01pm  
Ohh!
dora
posted 27-Aug-2004 7:16pm  
I guess I use the Italian one originated in the middle age?. I dunno. I pronounce it the way I was taught in school, not classical (like in Caesar I say Chesar not Kaesar). and surely not English...I guess medieval.

 * wry smile *

Iseult Survey Central Subscriber Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
(reply to dora) posted 30-Aug-2004 11:36pm  
Just a question - how do you Italians refer to the Flavian Amphethreatre (popularly known as the Colosseum)?
dora
(reply to Iseult) posted 31-Aug-2004 7:38am  
Colosseo.

Or

Anfiteatro Flavio.

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