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| essay | 17-Jun-2004 | politics/religion | kaleb777 | unsorted | 46 | 10 | 50.0% |
| User | Comment |
|---|---|
| ASB | posted 18-Jun-2004 10:38am its an oxymoron |
| Enheduanna | posted 18-Jun-2004 11:05am I don't believe in God, so I think it's meaningless. I also don't believe in the biblical account of creation, so I don't need to reconcile it with science, which is what statements of this sort try to do. If people want to believe this, it's fine with me. I see no reason why a hypothetical God couldn't arrange for evolution to happen. Although it seems more likely that God-the-Hypothetical would just set things in motion and let evolution take its course, that being the whole point of evolution, after all. |
| dora | posted 18-Jun-2004 11:42am Hmm.
It makes more sense than "God did all and no evolution took place at all!", it's not what I believe in, but I can get along with those who have such opinion more than with creationists. |
| bill | posted 18-Jun-2004 11:59am This implies a compromise position some people take (including many scientists, I think). I think it also implies that God is the creator, but not really an entity who screws around with creation on a daily basis. Perhaps, he created and wound up the clock, now he just sits back to watch it go.
My response to this statement would be something like "Who created God?" ...to which, most will say "God always existed.", to which I reply "Then evolution always existed, and God isn't needed." |
| Jody | posted 18-Jun-2004 1:19pm I think it's possible. I'm really not sure whether God created the world and set it in motion (absentee landlord theory) or whether He continues to have a hand at all times now in what happens on a cellular level in His many species. Given that He is omniscient and omnipotent, He could just as easily have done either and known it would work out exactly the way He intended. |
| Dino | posted 18-Jun-2004 2:41pm It would make sense if there was a God.
Its the most sensible solution. But I don't acknowledge the existence of God so this question is mute. |
| cerealkiller | posted 18-Jun-2004 2:53pm Evolved persons created God.
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| judgescratch | posted 18-Jun-2004 2:58pm Dunno. |
| Hans | posted 18-Jun-2004 3:36pm Rubbish. God created the world. "Evolution" is a human theory. Does anybody believe that God created Newton's laws in mechanics?? |
| heyzeus1 | posted 18-Jun-2004 5:36pm heh!
I havent heard that one. at any rate, i dont think anything of the statement on way or the other. |
| heyzeus1 | (reply to Hans) posted 18-Jun-2004 5:37pm if there is a god, then why wouldnt he be responsible for newton's revelations? |
| pandora | posted 18-Jun-2004 6:45pm It makes me giggle.
I did see a bumpersticker today that made me guffaw: Jesus is my best friend. Sure, fine sentiment and all, if that's your thing, but to see it plastered on a big old SUV just sent me over the edge. |
| darkshadowsseeker | posted 18-Jun-2004 6:48pm Well God created all life on Earth and much of this life has evolved, at least to a certain extent, so while I can't say for certain that God created evolution, it appears that it was built into at least some living beings bodies. |
| justjulie | posted 19-Jun-2004 7:23am if i can ever get past the name 'god', then it would make 'perfect' sense |
| Iseult | (reply to ASB) posted 19-Jun-2004 8:38am I don't really see it an an oxymoron. I see it as a way to incorporate science discoveries into religion. |
| ASB | (reply to Iseult) posted 19-Jun-2004 11:43am Well, might as well add to the fairytale since thats what I see religion as anyway |
| romkey | posted 19-Jun-2004 12:45pm If you believe in God and you believe in evolution then I don't have any problem with you believing this. |
| Hans | (reply to heyzeus1) posted 19-Jun-2004 4:38pm Sciences develop systems of explanations of the phenomena in this world. This is fascinating, useful, admirable. But it must not be confused with revelations of eternal truths. God gave us the mental power to develop scientific theories which serve as most subtle forms of orientation in our world. Instead of being grateful for this gift, people prefer to question God's existence as a consequence. A close study of the history of science would help to correct this sad error, and so would a careful reading of the philosophical views of some of the scientific giants (Bohr, Einstein, e.g.). |
| heyzeus1 | (reply to Hans) posted 20-Jun-2004 1:07am there are ideas held by some, that all ideas and creations float in the ether waiting to be plucked by an individual. by that idea, the individual did not really think of the idea, but found it. not saying that i think that, who knows what's true? not you or i. |
| kaleb777 | posted 20-Jun-2004 7:07am I think it's more likely than either the belief in creation coming up with the final design of all animals or the hypothesis that life just popped into existence.
An omnipotent God would have forseen the need to have his creations adaptable. |
| kaleb777 | (reply to pandora) posted 20-Jun-2004 7:09am Why? |
| dab | posted 20-Jun-2004 8:41am I've never seen any contradiction between evolution and a belief in god. So for people who believe in god, of course he created evolution. I also think that a God that would create such an amazingly elegant mechanism as evolution is far more awesome than one who'd just create everything in place as we see it today. |
| pandora | (reply to kaleb777) posted 20-Jun-2004 11:05am Why what? |
| kaleb777 | (reply to pandora) posted 20-Jun-2004 11:11am Why do you think the phrase "Jesus is my best friend" is so hilarious? |
| pandora | (reply to kaleb777) posted 20-Jun-2004 11:50am I haven't really sat down to analyze it, since I don't usually break down why I think certain things are funny. To me, it just is. Aside from the humor I find in it, I also think it's ridiculous, but that's just personal philosophy. |
| kaleb777 | (reply to pandora) posted 20-Jun-2004 12:10pm Do you find bumperstickers that say "Guns don't kill people - abortion clinics do" funny? |
| pandora | (reply to kaleb777) posted 20-Jun-2004 12:36pm Most likely not. Why? |
| kaleb777 | (reply to pandora) posted 20-Jun-2004 12:45pm I do. |
| pandora | (reply to kaleb777) posted 20-Jun-2004 1:04pm Alright. I don't know if I've ever actually seen that one. Is it popular in your area? |
| kaleb777 | (reply to pandora) posted 20-Jun-2004 1:26pm Very |
| pandora | (reply to kaleb777) posted 20-Jun-2004 1:51pm I got the impression that you were surrounded by those of the liberal persuasion. |
| kaleb777 | (reply to pandora) posted 20-Jun-2004 1:58pm I generally avoid them. They seem mentally ill to me. |
| pandora | (reply to kaleb777) posted 20-Jun-2004 2:06pm Probably good that you limit your interactions then. |
| bombill | posted 20-Jun-2004 7:55pm I don't have a problem with it, though I imagine there are many who would say that such a statement tries to marry two opposing sides but doesn't succeed. Non-believers would remain equally skeptical, while believers might actually be offended by it. A lot of people need to believe that God works miracles, and spontaneous creation is as miraculous as it gets. I do think a few of those who are struggling with their faith in regards to science might be comforted by the idea, that religion and science are not in opposition and therefore not a threat to each other (which I would agree with).
I'm content to understand evolution as a natural sequence of adaptations. "God created evolution" implies a master plan, which is not essential to my understanding of the process. If anything, I see it more as "let's wind this thing up and see where it goes." |
| bombill | (reply to dab) posted 20-Jun-2004 8:03pm I agree that evolution is a more impressive feat than the Genesis story, which is why I think some believers are coming around to the idea. For most, I think the traditional view is so ingrained that they are very conflicted with scientific views. |
| caviartaste | posted 21-Jun-2004 2:49pm It's not true. |
| mimind | posted 21-Jun-2004 6:10pm way to broad a comment to start this debate |
| mimind | posted 21-Jun-2004 6:14pm besides who fudgein cares who made us ....weve got enough to worry about just being able to make it through one day without treating each other like crap...my point is, worry about how to get "living life" right instead of how what where when and why |
| iamdonte | posted 21-Jun-2004 11:56pm Well, one would have believe in God, right? And/Or evolution? Or both? I think that this statement for me leads into arguments of religion and religious beliefs and I don't care to go there. |
| iamdonte | (reply to heyzeus1) posted 21-Jun-2004 11:58pm Now, who said God was a "he"? |
| heyzeus1 | (reply to iamdonte) posted 22-Jun-2004 1:11am did i say that?
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| iamdonte | (reply to heyzeus1) posted 22-Jun-2004 10:44am |
| Zang | posted 22-Jun-2004 3:51pm Whatever works for ya... |
| thevelvetcure | posted 23-Jun-2004 5:54am "This is evolution, the monkey, the man, then the gun"
...think about it |
| moonstone | posted 23-Jun-2004 12:52pm |
| Biggles | posted 24-Jun-2004 3:53pm I'd turn it on its head and say evolution created God or even evolution is God/God is evolution. |
| kitti_723 | posted 24-Jun-2004 10:13pm I don't think there for I'm not. |
| RICES5 | posted 29-Jun-2004 12:40am yes and so much more |
| Zen | posted 3-Jul-2004 2:20am I not believe in God. Its very very not logic if God created the evolution. If the God created the evolution, i am sure all the old testament talk none sense ! Its logic the Five Niyama (Utu niyama, Bija Niyama, Kamma Niyama, etc) created the evolution. |
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