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The purpose of going to college is...

Why do people REALLY go to college/university?? (Multiple Choice: my favorite kind of test!)



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32To get a good paying job.
28To have specialized knowledge about a specific subject.
19To develop critical thinking skills.
19To raise your awareness and/or alter your consciousness.
14OTHER
13To learn things that will allow them to be of benefit to all of humanity.
10To avoid going out in the real world/hide in an ivory tower.
10To get your parents to pay for more stuff for a while longer.
9To have one-night stands with sorority girls or fraternity boys.
7To see how much beer you can drink in 4 to 6 years.
3To stick it to "The Man"!
3To have something to do until the government reinstates the draft.
3Free Internet Access!!
3To learn how to buck the system.

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FordGuy Bronze Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
posted 11-Jun-2004 2:05pm  
To develop critical DRinking skills.
thevelvetcure
posted 11-Jun-2004 2:14pm  
...the honourable answers
Jody
posted 11-Jun-2004 2:22pm  
*My* purpose was to get a good-paying job. I'm sure there are people out there who'd fall into lots of these other categories.
kaleb777 Bronze Star Survey Creator
posted 11-Jun-2004 2:32pm  
To have feminazis and environuts to indocrinate you.
Enheduanna Survey Central Subscriber
posted 11-Jun-2004 2:49pm  
I would say of these, developing critical thinking skills is the most important one. Also getting a good job, learning about a specific subject, learning things that will benefit all humanity (this one I would say is the rarest), and raising one's awareness are likely to be among the benefits of a college education. It's also an important stage in a person's socialization; it helps teach independence and responsibility, but in a safe environment..
Biggles Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
posted 11-Jun-2004 2:50pm  
All of these and more. I think some people may do it to avoid actually going out into the world, but I think it's a great way to actually edge out there slowly. Living away from home, but still going home for the vacations means that you get a taste of independence but your mum is never too far away! I think among some people there is a real sense of bettering yourself and improving your family. My brother and I are the first in my family to go to university, and I do believe it makes a big class difference. My children are now extremely likely to go to university whereas with my parents it just so happened to work out that at least 2 of their 3 children went.
judgescratch
posted 11-Jun-2004 3:49pm  
Other. To learn about life issues first, then academic issues (undergraduate level).
Graduate level is a whole 'nother story.
Zang
posted 11-Jun-2004 4:55pm  
I suspect it varies with the individual. Getting a piece of paper that allows you to make more money is a popular reason. I suspect that a lot of kids don't even make the decision as such. Their parents simply make like there isn't any other possibility.
moviesnob
posted 11-Jun-2004 5:11pm  
All of the above plus a zillion other reasons.

I went because it's the only way to get the kind of jobs I want.
Biggles Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
(reply to Zang) posted 11-Jun-2004 6:00pm  
Is it really like that in Canada? I do associate it with America - anyone who isn't really working class seems to go to college there. I didn't think Canada would be the same. Here, you'd have to be very middle class before it was just assumed that you would go to university. Not that you can really get a good job without a degree - not something with a chance of advancement. Even traditional trades (like electricians or plumbers) are easier to get into if you have an appropriate degree. You could do well in the police force or the armed forces without a degree, but that's about it. Now anyway. When my parents left school having failed their exams they both walked into jobs that you now need a degree, if not a masters degree, to do.
Dino
posted 11-Jun-2004 6:03pm  
To get the qualifications needed to get a better paid job.
caviartaste
posted 11-Jun-2004 6:56pm  
to develop critical thinking skills - inside and outside of the classroom.
dora
posted 11-Jun-2004 6:57pm  
Knowledge and in some cases to get a job (maybe not super-well paid) that matches up your knowledge.

-drinking beer...nope, that's high school  * raspberry *
-you can use a computer, but you can't really use to do anything but , not that I know anyway.
-the raise your awareness/and alter your consciousness thing makes me think of drugs more than university.  * wry smile *
-not everybody's parents pay for college though most do.
-we don't really have fraternities/sororities. We have like Goliards, but it's not the same thing.  * wry smile *

-the benefit for all humanity sounds good, but maybe it's a dream.

so basically you go to college so that you can finally study whatever you want, the way you want, and can finally put to use all those boring high school times. Or something.
 * wry smile *

Most courses are interesting, and it there's a *chance* that *maybe* you will find a job that matters to you, though probably only in certain faculties. Like most of the law school students don't become lawyers. Most arts/humanities students become teachers... * wry smile *

some people believe that the point of university is becoming a teacher at university.
 * wry smile *


dora
(reply to judgescratch) posted 11-Jun-2004 7:03pm  
You should know about life issues already at 18.  * wry smile *
If you mean how to live by yourself etc...well most people here don't really leave home when they go to university.
A student can barely afford to pay for an apartment. So unless they really need it, because their parents live in another city or country, they will stay at home until they graduate. Some of them even longer, but that's another story.  * wry smile *

There's some people that gets beds at the dormitory, but they are mostly foreign and you have to run to get a place, places are limited. Most people share an apartment with others, there are lots of ads, but they all are people whose parents don't live in the same city and so they couldn't do in another way. Some others can't do it even if they live in a different place, because they don't have enough money.
EddieT321
posted 11-Jun-2004 8:26pm  
Education...education...education. There can never be enough of it.
EddieT321
(reply to dora) posted 11-Jun-2004 8:28pm  
Though you must agree some well paid positions require little formal education.
dora
(reply to EddieT321) posted 11-Jun-2004 8:48pm  
yes, but as I said it's not a matter of well-paid jobs, more of jobs you want to do,probably a trained factory-worker (if he's trained to do something specific) earns more than a book editor (or about the same), but if you go to college probably you will be more happy to work in a publishing company than in a factory.
Iseult Survey Central Subscriber Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
posted 11-Jun-2004 9:05pm  
So you can gain the knowledge. It's far much easier when they present it for you then when you have to do your own research.
Iseult Survey Central Subscriber Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
(reply to FordGuy) posted 11-Jun-2004 9:05pm  
I don't know, most of us develop those in High School.
heyzeus1
posted 11-Jun-2004 9:40pm  
to learn stuff, if you want.
southernyankee Bronze Star Survey Creator
posted 11-Jun-2004 10:13pm  
PURPOSE OF:

GOING: $$ jobs, NETWORKING, beer, procrastination, hopefully avoiding the draft just in case, meeting a SO, freeload from parents, learn survival skills (especially those living in the dorms), buliding up your immune system (mostly for those living in the dorms), an opportunity to pretend to yourself that you are making a difference in the world, and to learn speciallzed knowledge about a specific field (tsp, yeah right, learn new *usefull* skills my ass).

EXISTING: Its mostly an exuse for the government to take more of peoples $$, but hey, at least they use it to research crap.
southernyankee Bronze Star Survey Creator
posted 11-Jun-2004 10:15pm  
opps, forgot to mention, an opportunity to get the hell away from your parents.
bill Survey Central Gold Subscriber Gold Star Survey Creator
posted 12-Jun-2004 12:54pm  
My main reasons for going: Job, people's expectation of me, desire to learn, nothing better to do
What I actually got out of it: Job, good general understanding of my major, good friends, maturity, and a wife
ElvisFan67
posted 12-Jun-2004 5:03pm  
Good-paying jobs and one-night stands, I believe.
Zang
(reply to Biggles) posted 12-Jun-2004 6:21pm  
Yeah, it's pretty much like that...
cerealkiller Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
posted 12-Jun-2004 7:34pm  
Drink beer, avoid the real world, one night stands, have parents support you longer. I think going straight into college after high school is a mistake. You're too young to really know why you're in college, what you want, etc.
dora
(reply to cerealkiller) posted 13-Jun-2004 2:44pm  
If by 18 you don't know what you want you're a fool.
cerealkiller Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
(reply to dora) posted 13-Jun-2004 3:08pm  
I think very few in the US know what they want or who they are by 18.
pandora
(reply to dora) posted 13-Jun-2004 3:58pm  
I only know a handful of people who knew what they wanted (as far as big life choices) by age 18.
dora
(reply to pandora) posted 13-Jun-2004 4:24pm  
Hmm.
Well maybe they don't know exactly what they want, but they should be aware of who they are and generally of what they want to do. If they don't I would think they're really immature.
You should know about general life choices as the career you would like to have when you leave school. Actually you should know that way before, since probably at school you already studied what you were interested in the most.

It's strange how from a certain point of view your youths seem to be more mature (leaving home early, economic independence etc.), and on another side they seem (on average) more childish than us.

Violet
posted 14-Jun-2004 4:11am  
I went to university to learn and to avoid the "real world." I guess that could also be why I'm still in Korea. If it's all temporary, it's all good.
judgescratch
(reply to dora) posted 14-Jun-2004 8:41am  
Most 18 year olds haven't a clue.
Biggles Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
posted 14-Jun-2004 8:48am  
Sitting exams apparently  * frown *
Biggles Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
(reply to judgescratch) posted 14-Jun-2004 8:56am  
That may be a product of the American education system. 18 year olds haven't specialised sufficiently to know what they love and what they hate. How on Earth can they then choose a major? I studied Biology, Chemistry, Politics, Sociology, Archaeology and General Studies between 16-18 - most people in the UK only do 3 or 4 subjects. We studied those subjects to a high level - probably the equivalent of the first couple of years at a US college. We knew what we wanted to do by the end of it. Well, most of us did. I wasn't certain where my degree would take me, but I knew that I wanted to take Biology and I knew I wanted to aim towards aid work or work for charities. I have a better idea now of what I want to do and it's not that dissimilar to what I wanted to do at 18. We can also study medicine, veterinary science, law, dentistry etc. straight from school - if you're going to take a vocational course, you have to know that's what you want to do. Not to mention that we all applied for our courses and universities when we were just 17. I had to have an interview and convince my interviewers that I really did want to do Biology before I ever turned 18. That's the way it works here. It seems strange that 18 year olds could be so aimless there.
ASB Bronze Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
(reply to dora) posted 14-Jun-2004 10:07am  
I had no clue at the age of 18 really who I was or what I wanted. I don't think the majority of US kids do.  * wry smile *
judgescratch
(reply to Biggles) posted 14-Jun-2004 10:28am  
I know what you mean about having to choose a major so young, and the difficulties which accompany that decision. I know because I struggled, and compensated for my (not so great) decision by eventually earning a graduate degree several years after my undergraduate degree. I digress.

My comment was not directed at the decison of school majors and the ultimate professions which follow. My comment was more about life experience, learning about navigating through different professional environments, from corporate environments to factory/plant environments and everything inbetween. Learning about group and social dynamics, where one stands within the dynamic, how to retain one's sense of self with others, how to confront difficult personalities, how to not take the knocks the business world hands us personally, and how to choose your battles, and how it feels when you lose.

How can someone who hasn't any (or only a little) practical work experience begin to understand the coping and survival tactics required to stay sane in the world of making money (the business world)? Well, many interpersonal scenarios play out amongst the social groups at college. I know that I got my first big dosage of the gamut which personalities can manifest in college. I did a lot of trial and error (I didn't know it at the time) in terms of dealing with them, and I brought those personality experiences with me into the working world. My pursuit of graduate school was the result of my life experiences indicating to me that I will need more academic training to have the quality of life which I want. I was much more academically focused in graduate school.

So, anyway, that's what I meant.  * wink *
Biggles Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
(reply to judgescratch) posted 14-Jun-2004 10:35am  
That seems to have less to do with what you want and more to do with what you know. I don't think the two are the same.
judgescratch
(reply to Biggles) posted 14-Jun-2004 10:58am  
I was modifying my message to you when someone walked into my office and interrupted my valuable SC time! The gall!  * wink * What's there now is more than before, and that's why.
So there we go! We all strive to achieve our goals in life, and the late teens is where many of us start.  * smile *
judgescratch
(reply to dora) posted 14-Jun-2004 11:04am  
...to be fair, and clear as to my meaning, and that no slights were intended, please see my note to Biggles above.
Biggles Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
(reply to judgescratch) posted 14-Jun-2004 2:05pm  
Fair enough  * smile *
dora
(reply to ASB) posted 14-Jun-2004 3:49pm  
Hmm....maybe we're just too cool for school  * raspberry *
ASB Bronze Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
(reply to dora) posted 14-Jun-2004 4:19pm  
It took a few years of learning the hard way for me to figure it all out.
dora
(reply to ASB) posted 14-Jun-2004 6:09pm  
Were you kind of confused as a teenager?
I was really confused about who I was between 8 and 13, but after that it was pretty easy as far as self-identity goes.
LindaH Survey Central Gold Subscriber Gold Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
(reply to ASB) posted 14-Jun-2004 7:55pm  
U.S. kids aren't given enough guidance and direction as far as their future goes. Adults expect them to know exactly what they want to do before going to college, but don't help them try to develop a marketable interest in high school. There's no encouragement for their practical interests. Some kids are lucky enough to have parents who help in that area, but a lot aren't.
ASB Bronze Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
(reply to dora) posted 14-Jun-2004 9:40pm  
No I was just very rebelious
ASB Bronze Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
(reply to LindaH) posted 14-Jun-2004 9:41pm  
Most US kids would not take the help was it offered.
LindaH Survey Central Gold Subscriber Gold Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
(reply to ASB) posted 14-Jun-2004 9:45pm  
If it were offered by parents they probably would, because those particular parents would have raised them to care. If it was offered by the schools they wouldn't.
dora
(reply to ASB) posted 15-Jun-2004 4:15am  
That's kind of normal and healthy at every age, especially when you're a teenager, unless of course your rebellion is completely out of control.
kitti_723
posted 15-Jun-2004 10:55pm  
i'm not sure. i know alot of people who went to college and graduated w. a degree and make less $$ than me and i quit in 10th grade
EddieT321
(reply to dora) posted 17-Jun-2004 4:42pm  
I'm not sure I understand your reasoning. To a factory work who knows little about educational opportunities, this person can only be as content as his/her knowledge allows. But the publisher, who is aware of the endless sea of educational venues, how can he/she then be content to be a factory worker. Or a publisher, for that matter. Your scope of knowledge depends on your ability to process opportunity potential.
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dora
(reply to EddieT321) posted 17-Jun-2004 5:09pm  
Everybody is only as content as his/her knowledge allows.

moonstone
posted 25-Jun-2004 3:11pm  
To hopefully get a good job/career that pays good $$$.
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