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Which of these 'work at home' jobs have you tried?

If you have tried one of these jobs, I would like to hear your experience with it.



VotesAnswer
1Envelope stuffing
8Surveys for cash
2Craft making or other assembly
0Newspaper clipping
2Internet research
0Claims processing
4A pyramid scheme
38I have tried none of these
9Other

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judgescratch Survey Qualifier
posted 7-May-2004 11:44am  
Nope, none of these, I've never worked from home.
darkshadowsseeker
posted 7-May-2004 12:21pm  
I've babysat in my home, but that's all.
mandy
posted 7-May-2004 12:44pm  
Avon
I also worked from home calling customers of a local car dealership and asking them how their service experience was.
Enheduanna Survey Central Subscriber
posted 7-May-2004 12:57pm  
None. Being a student is mostly a work-at-home job; I was also a proofreader for a Hebrew Bible project a few years ago, and I did that work at home as well. I enjoyed it for the most part, although it was a little tedious.
moonstone
posted 7-May-2004 1:46pm  
I haven't tried any of them, I've thought about doing some of them, though.
moonstone
posted 7-May-2004 1:46pm  
I know someone who tried the envelope stuffing thing, it was a crock of crap.
Dino
posted 7-May-2004 2:33pm  
No, I have tried none of these.

I hear there is one where you work a call-line. Like phone this number for 'psychic advice' or 'sex line' and the phone just converts to yours when you log on and then you clock up a certain amount of hours and get paid on that.

That'd be cool.
freebird
posted 7-May-2004 3:35pm  
none--aren't they all scams? If I had a computer at home, I might.
heyzeus1
posted 7-May-2004 3:42pm  
i got ripped off on the stuffing envelopes one, and on a selling items on ebay business, but i got my money back in both cases by filing a claim with my bank and threatening to sue. unfortunately i still want to work at home and am still searching for something real.
heyzeus1
(reply to moonstone) posted 7-May-2004 3:42pm  
yeah, that was me.
moonstone
(reply to heyzeus1) posted 7-May-2004 3:52pm  
A girl I used to work with did it...  * smile *
Kristal_Rose Survey Central Subscriber
posted 7-May-2004 4:12pm  
I'm working on my online tarot reading business again.
I've spent a lot of time trying to create businesses at home, but I don't even recall what they were now, things like making colored flame candles, web design, etc.
Kristal_Rose Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to Dino) posted 7-May-2004 4:20pm  
I did that for awhile. It doesn't pay much at all, like $0.20/min if you even get calls, since new-comers are only get call overflow, and yet when you log on, you can't do much else because you have to be set-up and answer within two rings. The interview is doing a reading over the phone for your boss. My interviewer was able to identify over the phone that I was flipping cards end-over-end, not side-over-side.
It may sound cool, but I've never seen in your comments here the qualities which make for a successful reader. Doing it could bring out new aspects of you though.
Biggles Bronze Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
posted 7-May-2004 4:30pm  
I've never worked properly.
SueBee Survey Central Subscriber
posted 7-May-2004 4:42pm  
None, but I've always been curious about the envelope stuffing one. I certainly wouldn't suggest trying any of these if you have to pay something in order to get started, because it's most likely a rip-off.
SueBee Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to freebird) posted 7-May-2004 4:44pm  
Where is your computer?
SueBee Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to Biggles) posted 7-May-2004 4:46pm  
How about improperly?  * winking raspberry *
Biggles Bronze Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
(reply to SueBee) posted 7-May-2004 4:47pm  
I do that *all* the time  * wink *
freebird
(reply to SueBee) posted 7-May-2004 5:05pm  
Only at work  * frown * that's why no one 'talks" to me on weekends. Unless I go to the library.
SueBee Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to Biggles) posted 7-May-2004 5:32pm  
Yeah, I figured as much with the likes of you.  * winking raspberry *
SueBee Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to freebird) posted 7-May-2004 5:33pm  
Well, at least be happy you don't have to be at work on weekends!  * smile *
Dino
(reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 7-May-2004 5:47pm  
I don't imagine it would I would be very good. I thought those psychic lines were fake anyway.

Perhaps I was more thinking of the sex-line. I imagine one would get very tired and bored very quickly. "ooooh, ahhhhh, guess what I'm wearing?"

Very tiresome
freebird
(reply to SueBee) posted 7-May-2004 6:45pm  
OMG: thankfully not yet. I am looking for a weekend job at a fast food or k-mart or something until we get out of this financial mess we are in. I think if I found something I could handle working my reg. 40 and another 8-10 per day on weekends for at least 6 months.
Maarten
posted 7-May-2004 7:41pm  
None of the above.
iamdonte
posted 7-May-2004 9:43pm  
I haven't tried any of these.
Kristal_Rose Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to Dino) posted 7-May-2004 9:58pm  
Maybe that would be more appropriate.
I do free readings for readers to troubleshoot issues of which subjects they are accurate at, what they're missing, how well clients absorb wisdom, which theosophical ideologies they are unresponsive to, etc etc.
I had a as month guest one of the gypsy sort of readers. My reading showed that he was good at match-making readings, yet brought out only the darker sides of their spiritual path. I haven't yet run into a totally ungifted or fake professional reader, though I'm sure they must exist, just as embezzlers pass themselves off as accountants. There are hundreds of tarot decks available, and it's apparent that not all tarot artists are aware of the metaphysical properties of the cards. Most tarot readers are tarot readers for life, just like engineers and administrators tend to remain such. I've probably owned 30 books on the subject of tarot, in addition to the rest of my spiritual library, and my study started as teenager. As a profession, one usually starts outs relying upon reputation and return clientale. At the moment now, my neighbor is playing "Sorry I'm a woman now, I'm walking in a spider web, ... No matter who calls, I gotta screen my phone calls" That song appeared the week I both started living as a woman, and employed as phone tarot reader. At the time, the reference to now being a womas was apparent, but I only now got the reference to tarot calls. I realize now though that the neighbor started playing this song recently while I've been working on bringing back my tarot business project.
Zang
posted 7-May-2004 10:41pm  
None. While I was unemployed, I heard some ad on the radio for a "work at home" job. It was supposed to be something requiring a computer/Internet connection. I checked out the website and it wouldn't tell me anything without me giving them my email address. That was my first clue. Then the website consisted of pages and pages of vacuous bluster with zero information about what the "job" was supposed to entail. The last page asked me to buy a $35 information package. I correctly deduced that legitimate employers don't sell information packages to potential applicants so I gave it a miss. Then the spam started. Every day for the next couple of weeks I would get these stupid spam emails taunting me with insults about my lack of drive and ambition. I did a little research and found out who they were coming from. It turned out that it was a pyramid scam AKA multi-level marketing. The "product" is Herbalife. Here's a very interesting webpage about this:

http://www.cockeyed.com/workfromhome/workfromhome_...

Dino
(reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 8-May-2004 5:47am  
I remember when I created this survey

http://surveycentral.org/survey/12705.html - "Pick a Tarot Card"

There were some interesting things said on that. I was pleased with that survey as I put a lot of effort into it. Researching the pictures. Linking the images. etc.

As for the readings - well there wasn't much I could say. I guess I just wanted to share the beautiful images.

Tarot has always fascinated me. Not so much the readings and what they can do. That is an area I respectfully leave for the time being while I explore my childish wonder at the images.

I can gaze at them and be awestruck with their beauty. The very direct form of communication to the mind.

Someone once said that if you are going to communicate with French people its best to speak French to make yourself fully understood. And thus, to speak to the unconscious mind it best to speak in the language of the unconscious mind - symbolism.

I love that - and am happy (for now) to sit in wonder and awe.

ROCKMAN
posted 8-May-2004 8:16am  
None of these.
Cain
posted 8-May-2004 9:06am  
I used to do catalogue delivery and order processing from home. Nice job when it was sunny, not so pleasant in the rain.
romkey Survey Central Gold Subscriber
posted 8-May-2004 9:40am  
software development...
romkey Survey Central Gold Subscriber
(reply to mandy) posted 8-May-2004 9:43am  
now I'm imagining the Avon lady showing up, pierced, tattooed, with purple hair and in leather...
bill Survey Central Gold Subscriber Gold Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier This user is on the site NOW (36 seconds ago)
posted 8-May-2004 10:12am  
These all feel scammy to me.
mandy
(reply to romkey) posted 8-May-2004 1:37pm  
That was before I was cool * raspberry *
SueBee Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to freebird) posted 8-May-2004 2:47pm  
I worked two jobs several years ago. My second job was at another retail store where I had previously worked full-time. Not having much free time gets old after awhile, but the extra money sure is nice. I've considered doing that again to pay off some bills, but first I want to spend some time writing music and see where that takes me. Besides that, I'm hoping to hear from the post office. I took the postal exam a couple years ago and got a pretty good score, so I'm on their register for one more year, and could be called for a job interview. That would most likely start out part-time, so I would keep my present job and probably be working a lot of hours. Then I could pay off some bills faster and start saving for a down payment on a house.

My sister has a good job with the state, and she took on a second job at Burger King several years ago. I think she did that for about a year, and is really glad she did because now she and her husband are in great shape financially.

Good luck with your endeavors!!  * smile *
SueBee Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to romkey) posted 8-May-2004 2:58pm  
Actually, I can imagine Mandy pulling in a whole new demographic for Avon and increasing their market share substantially! Especially if she influenced them to make some new products like bright hair coloring and goth jewelry. The Dark Side of Avon.  * smile *
romkey Survey Central Gold Subscriber
(reply to SueBee) posted 8-May-2004 3:15pm  
heh  * grin *
Kristal_Rose Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to Dino) posted 8-May-2004 7:07pm  
Some of us use symbolism, others use associatiot or stick to the purely tangible. Those thoughts could be organized by concept, subject matter, or sentiment. Those thoughts can be processed through words or images. It's a faulty presumption most people make that others think with the same faculties they use themselves. I was amazed to find that even the act of two person teams reading off forms and entering them into the computer, which I thought would have one most efficient fail-safe procedure, varied considerably to suit the relative cognitive strengths of each individual. Some used visual memory, numbers, names, placement, sequence, different memory recall, different communication synchroniztion, etc etc. Even the most basic tasks are being being processed by each mind in a quite unique fashion. I find it fascinating.

That's cool that you relate to the cards. Many people get them solely for contemplative meditations without an interest in readings. For some people it is their body, and indeed, codifying the sum of biblical wisdom was at it's origin.
Kristal_Rose Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to mandy) posted 8-May-2004 7:18pm  
Yeah, I can see you as the Amazon Lady, going door to door, selling piercings, tattoos, and leathar fetishes. Of course some neighbors would cringe in silent fear behing their doors as you knocked on it with a cat-of-nine-tails to show off the latest line Wagnerian bathing and battle attire.
heyzeus1
(reply to Dino) posted 8-May-2004 8:08pm  
remember my i-ching survey? i think it was called 'let me read your fortune'
that was a LOT of work.
heyzeus1
(reply to SueBee) posted 8-May-2004 8:10pm  
thanks for wishing me luck. to be honest i am just trying to figure out what to do, so many of my past jobs have made me miserable to the point of insanity. now, 3 months unemployed, and i am having a real difficult time being around people (panic attacks), so i cant find work.
ElvisFan67 Bronze Star Survey Creator
posted 8-May-2004 9:32pm  
I've never really tried any "work-at-home" jobs, but I've kinda looked into them and done some research. I was always skeptical of these ads, fearing that there was some sort of scam involved.  * wry smile *
Kristal_Rose Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to heyzeus1) posted 9-May-2004 2:19am  
I've sought work alone because I couldn't focus in the midst of any distraction, but I found without other people, my batteries drain too. Social anxiety I find is like a muscle which needs exercised. So are things like he sort of concentration required to critique paintings.
One can do an hour twice a week, and work their way up to feeling comfortable doing it full time.

For myself, I find I alawys have to be ahead of the game, or in an environment where all tasks are done in the moment without expectation. As soon as I start working 'have to catch up' mode, I'm heading for a nervous breakdown in which I can't do anything. I've had to avoid careers that I have excellent creative skills in, like computer graphics, because they also are always tied in with deadline stress.

What sort of work are you looking for, and why that sort?
heyzeus1
(reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 9-May-2004 10:00am  
my unemployment runs out in july, so like most years past i have to work full time whether or not i find a job i can stand. i havent had any job yet doing something i liked, although i have had one or two i could stand (i like to drive, so these jobs involved driving forklifts or making deliveries in trucks). as far as working from home, i dont know, i was looking for anything real that paid because i could stand it just because i would be at home. most of what i cant stand about jobs is dealing with people face to face. i've always been good on the phone, but i cant sell. i'm absolutely no good in any salesman job or direct public service (waiter, etc) because i am not able to pretend to like people if i don't. more than likely ill end up in another factory job i hate.
SueBee Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to heyzeus1) posted 9-May-2004 2:37pm  
I'm not sure if that reply was really meant for me, but I do wish you luck! Have you considered some kind of schooling that would give you the training you need to get a good job? There are some things that don't take a really long time, that just teach you job skills without having to take a bunch of unrelated classes. For example, I know someone who learned to be a welder. I'm pretty sure it took less than a year and then he was certified and able to get a good paying job. Maybe that sounds like a drag, but there could be something out there that you could stand to do. At least welding you get to wear a big mask and I don't suppose you have top deal with other people a lot.  * smile *
JessicaWoman99
posted 9-May-2004 3:35pm  
You better have a huge bank account because envelope stuffing and surveys for cash are looking for your wallet and are very expensive and a big rip off is all they are and it is a scam? so buyer beware of this and you will not make any money so watch out"
Kristal_Rose Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to heyzeus1) posted 9-May-2004 5:10pm  
I find sales reperehensible, and just had a minor back relapse riding or carrying my new bicycle up the stairs, not sure which, although I was hesitant to ride without swapping over my suspension seat post and riser handlebar stem. Welding was great fun, just meditating on the flow of liquid metal and flame. I got myself a torch recently, and just a couple nights ago a neighbor gave me a job repairing her ring. Do you like to build things? When I worked at the census bureau, although at moments, I was the hottest clerk they had, familiar with all of the stations, my job there often ended up being to do tarot readings, share vacation photes, play harmonica, and iron out grudges between employees. I came there to prove to myself that my mytical and psychic faculties could be just at home in a conventional work environment. Set your sights on something higher that running yourself ragged until you break. It's a delusion that income is proportional to effort. I find that work flows better for everyone when I remove all the expectiaons of income and profit and productivity. That doesn't mean lately, that just means being flexibly helpful at any moment without stress. Likewise, I found I could hang out with administrators and talk to other COO's just by redefining who I was to myself.
When can't you be face-to-face? If you do it with friends, you can do it at work, because if you find honest work, all you have to do is negotiate a reasonable way of making both party's happy. If it's a screw or be screwed where your sincere and capable responsibility isn't taken for granted, you're in the wrong place, or more probably have something to learn. Even as an employee talking with a boss, you should be able to carry yourself as the president of brazil speaking with the premier of canada. As long as you were hired, you were hired to represent the work you were charged with, not them, and it's your duty to honestly represent objectively what can be done about it, without feelings of relative worth getting in the way. Do you have social anxiety, such that you are unable to look others in the eye because you are ashamed of being sad and not fitting in? If so, you need a change of philosophy, a forgiving of yourself, (after all, there are millions in the same boat), and some practice being the person that's reasonable with your history for you to be. I find that situations that one would expect to be sell-outs, can get very quirky, enjoyable, and productive when your objectiveness comes from the heart, and not a sense of societal protocol. When I create a website for someone, I don't try to sell them more than they need. I show them all the cool stuff I can do, but explain to them that they should stick to so much, and it's they that try to talk me into a larger contract. I don't use people, and I don't let them use me. If either were happening, I couldn't look them in the face.
not sure if I hit on any of your issues or not.
anonymous
posted 9-May-2004 6:32pm  
I was a phone sex operator for about a year. The funny thing about it was the fact that about half of my callers where just loney, isolated people who just wanted to hear a human voice.
heyzeus1
(reply to SueBee) posted 9-May-2004 6:50pm  
oh, i have plenty of skills!
i guess i just dont like work.
heyzeus1
(reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 9-May-2004 6:59pm  
It's a delusion that income is proportional to effort
i think it is, but backwards, in my experience, less work = more money. its the ditch diggers who get $5 an hour, after all (been there done that)
ive always been anti social, but social anxiety is new, and its not shame. it is a different reaction the the same old feelings (feelings of not wanting to be around people or playing social and making small talk). previously this just made me aloof, now something seems to have gone wrong and there is a new pathway in my brain connecting these unwanted situations to the 'fight or flight' response. it is wholly out of proportion, and entirely uncomfortable. actualy, if you want to know, i think paxil did it to me. i took paxil for depression, and was left with panic attacks after the horrible withdrawls from that drug.
denise804
posted 9-May-2004 7:49pm  
none
Kristal_Rose Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to heyzeus1) posted 9-May-2004 10:12pm  
Exactly. It seems to be inversely proportional. Ooh. That seems to be a response to both subjects. You have to titrate down carefully from anti-depressants because they replace your own chemical/neural wiring, and you have to wait for a new one to grow. Still, you don't want to be in such a social condition. The term 'small talk' itself suggests that you never learned how to find generic social situations to be mutually uplifting. Small talk is the medium, not the underlying purpose, just as a kiss is not about manipulating lip muscles. Social involvement requires a world changing outlook; that it can all be mutually uplifting, and everyone, especially yourself, deserves it to be. When you believe in that world, it will happen, but it requires practice. Like my examples of gallery critiquing, one can need to get into their own time zone where they are in the control flow of their environment, recharging the contemplative attunement, and yet active responsive exchange of new swift vibrant energy info also needs recharged, or your destination will be that of a statue in a cave. The fight or flight is an example of needing that contemplative recharge, but you also need to psyche yourself up to put out the energy required for new life exchange. I've been in that place where choosing vegetables with the risk of an encounter with a stranger was a weary ordeal, but I later learned to be in a place where I could reach out to people in such a place and teach them how simple and rewarding cooking could be, and be called an angel. With practice, you'll find that the fears which keep you from being an angel amongst others are unfounded. Part of that though is knowing that you always have the opportunity to be given opportunities for service to humanity rather than being exploited in employment ways and other situations which crush your spirit. A call to service though must be one joyous giving, and not of somber duty, or it will be no different than other soul crushing exploitations. Get on the right track, and your universe will prosper.
Don't dwell on your depression, even trying to cure it; that only amplifies it. Be objective that your shortcomings still exist, but abide in what does work, and nourish and amplify that.
heyzeus1
(reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 9-May-2004 10:38pm  
i always felt that talking with people or doing anything social was work. its very hard. so, i have been practicing for years. but, who knows...only recently i stay at home and dont see anyone. i spent the winter snowed in for the most part. i know nobody in this part of the state except my inlaws. but even going back to colorado last month and seeing my old friends and family was really hard work.
mandy
(reply to anonymous) posted 9-May-2004 11:28pm  
#1
How does that work? How well did it pay? I'm looking for a second job so I can afford to survive out on my own....I think I'd be great at that!
How do you get into that "field"?
freebird
(reply to SueBee) posted 10-May-2004 11:02am  
Thanks, SueBee I think I will get hired at K-Mart, I used to work there. I think they will hire me because I don't really need to be trained. I work for the State of NM right now and the pay is okay but right now I need more to help us. My house payment is not too high so I am basically okay there, but it's the things like diapers, milk, and the like that are giving me the problems. But things will work out I am beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel? Is that lame or what?  * smile *
heyzeus1
(reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 10-May-2004 11:38am  
so about paxil, i know you are sposed to taper treatment to quit. i ran out of money to pay for it (that crap is waaaaay expensive), and went through a month of horrible sweating shaking withdrawls. but that was over a year ago, do you think it would still be screwing me up?

anyway, i am fully aware that my problem is an energy blockage in the throat area, communication. i can feel it. so, i have decided to go to an acupuncturist. what do you think?
Dino
(reply to heyzeus1) posted 10-May-2004 4:35pm  
I do remember that one - it was an excellent survey. And the time and effort was clear (and appreciated)
heyzeus1
(reply to Dino) posted 10-May-2004 6:53pm  
thanks. that was fun too. but i dont think i have the time to do another one like that, even when i spend so much time on here.
SueBee Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to freebird) posted 11-May-2004 1:20am  
I bet K-Mart would be delighted to hire you again. What's lame? "The light at the end of the tunnel"? I guess things become clichés for good reason. It's a good way to get your point across.  * smile *
freebird
(reply to SueBee) posted 11-May-2004 11:01am  
You are such a great person, Sue. You sure know how to make me feel good. I hope one day I can return the favor. Just your words have been a comfort for me in the last few weeks. Thank you for that. Yeah it was the "Light at the end of the tunnel thing was what I thought was lame, but yes it kinda does get the point across.
leahdoll
posted 11-May-2004 6:56pm  
Mary Kay. I realized I love makeup (as I already knew) but I hate selling.
Kristal_Rose Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to heyzeus1) posted 11-May-2004 8:50pm  
I suppose that could help; I'm not really into acupuncture. I believe our physical symptoms will respond to our metaphysical understandings, and not so much the other way around.
My point is that you need to learn to align the perspective/philosphy/understanding/expectations you flow through situations with. If a battery in a series of batteries is put in backwards, it will drain the other batteries a bit, and itself completetly. Identify and remove all the definitions, ideologies, and philosphical obligations which make interacting a chore. If necessary, imagine what must be going on in the head of a four year old kid tossing daisies, and imagining everyone to be their cousin or uncle. I'm guessing you are introspectiive, and all conversation is a trigger for more introspection. I've been in a place where 90% of my thought was ethical deliberation or other forms of self-analysis, to the point of burnout. Eventually, you have to come to the conclusion that such inquiry has infinite bounds, that you rarely have the answers anyhow, and that they will more likely come to you when you weren't striving to seek them anyhow; and morever, that it's simply a bleak mental state to live one's life in. I know I suggested 'identify and remove', but this is not so much an analytical process as a feeling senitivity. Become aware of when your current type of thought processes add joy or misery to your life. Other people probably merely compound your own own self-fabricated complications. If it makes anything easier, know that the motions of our bodies are orchestrated from a source beyond our egos (which get the curious role of taking credit themselves), and that our consciousness is free during any sort of physical or intellectual activities to rise beyond these automated levels we imagine to be causative. Your consciousness may be trapped for now residing on those levels, but it may be somewhat liberating to know you don't have to take them so seriously. They only appear to be your responsibility. It's often the self-justifying self-identity-creating behavior of the ego to make it's life miserable in order to perpetuate it's distinct identity; 'I suffer, therefore I am'. Making an enemy of your own ego is disastrous too (too many religions ask you to find this out the hard way); just find it some greener pastures.

After being on paxil for a couple of months, a year later it could still be screwing with you. I recall conditions which only appeared after taking a sucession of psyche meds, and it took a couple years for me to feel entirely rid of such conditions. Come to think of it, I still have some conditions that didn't exist before meds, for instance, especially when I'm weary from the days exhaustion, I suddenly feel like crying for no particular reason. That may have something to do with my sweet coffee addiction though (even though I've always had that addiction). Whatever's going on with you, the part of you which is trying to figure it out may not know, but another part of you within your reach does. Practice not deep somber contemplative meditation, but a light-hearted sensitive meditation, which can identify when somber energies accompany it, and their origin.

I just had another theory/thought which is tangentially related. Perhaps you don't relate well in company because your mind currently exists in deep abstract locales. If that is the case, try living on the surface of your body, uncluttered with thought, with refreshing free-flow-through consciousness.

Oh wait, you mentioned a critical clue, 'snowed in'. That indicates what was once meant by SAD, seasonal affective disorder, which means you simply need to spend time out in the sun, and deny your compulsion stay up long nights with the computer. I hve to frequently remind myself that if I don't use some discipline when I wake up and turn my computer on, that the vibrancy of my day will be desroyed. I did it today, It's 6pm, and I'm not dressed yet, even though I woke up at 7am for the first time in months, and even celebarted by playing Joni Mitchell's 'Chelsea Morning'. Now, without exercise from physical activity, I will have to have the counter discipline to not stay up late and get back on a sun robbing schedule.
heyzeus1
(reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 11-May-2004 11:20pm  
i know all this, at least have read it, been told, or felt it in the past. but knowing doesnt always help, if you see what i mean.
i am suprised you dont think much of acupuncture, i never considered it a physical therapy but a working of the chakras and energy circuits through physical pressure points. still, i've never done it. i have been meditating more, and it is helping. my meditations are the light ones, such as driving or walking alone, and taking moments to think positive on purpose.
how does one live on the surface of one's body uncluttered with thought. if i could do that, i would be ok.
coffee is another thing, i've been a coffeehead all my life. my body thinks i have just become hypersensitive to it, and that may be the simple answer. i havent been able to test it by waking up withought a cup, or a pot. that is going to be a hard test.
today, i did work outside all day, which was nice.
as far as waking up and turning my puter on, thats taken care of for me, noah gets it at least until noon. he's the one i've got to get out in the sun. he's not 3 yet, and can already 'dig' through the windows folders to find all my games. he follows the menus and loads the saved games. jeez. i only taught him to use the mouse like 4 months ago.
heyzeus1
(reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 11-May-2004 11:32pm  
i was very together as a teen, i had been through all the philisophical wanderings as a young child and came to rest in a sort of zen. i was very much at peace, and i think everybody around me felt it, at least people told me i fascinated them. i held control of my life and all i sought was enlightenment. but then i was bored, and started playing with drugs...for 15 years. well, you see what i've got to undo...
SueBee Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to freebird) posted 12-May-2004 12:45am  
> You sure know how to make me feel good. I hope one day I can return the favor.

You just did. Thanks!  * smile *
freebird
(reply to SueBee) posted 12-May-2004 10:45am  
 * smile *
Kristal_Rose Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to heyzeus1) posted 12-May-2004 5:58pm  
Awesme kid.
I have to work on the same stuff. Be good to yourself. Don't let procrastination add to your misery (and end up wasting your life in contemplation while unfini-shed business weighs on you). If you are quick and responsive, without hang-ups, you won't have those 'I should's piling up to think about it, then, when your body says it's time, really relax, and do what comes naturally to that state. The work and the play and meditation are all good for you, but your body has a schedule for them which might not be the same as your conception of when to do them. If you're like me, this 'work hard / play hard' strategy does not come easily, because we have mastered over the years a meditative life in which all things have become the same to us, and worse yet, has lost meaning. Choose to have experience during your experience. You can sleep during your shower, or smell the flowers in the window, sing with the birds, and psyche yourself up for a day in the sun. It requires identifying that you are sleep-walking, knowitng you can feel any way you want to, and putting out the energy to get he energy returns. In other words, choose to live, and be glad to be alive. The 'glad to be alive' experiences will follow this active ongoing decision. It's always 'you first'. You can't coast merely trailing your experiences and expect to feel alive. At this stage the joy of a child requires the wise discipline of a sage. Plan to have good things happen. Write a script that keeps you jazzed. Don't wait for the world to rescue you, or it will only bring you hardships which remind you to take control yourself. Don't fall under the wrong yoke.

Not working also brings on that 'all experience is the same'. It's not like working hard five days, and being suddenly free to enjoy the weekend, rather it feels like friday never arrives, and you aren't morally worthy to freely enjoy the weekend. ..and so, you have to have more sensitivity and self-control of what you are free to do and think. Circumstance doesn't spell it out so clearly, yet you still need te diversity of experience others are prescribed automatically. It's a bit like having breathed all your life autonomically, not having to think about, and now having to take conscious responsibility for it yourself, but having to do it in a way that feels natural, not in some artificial complication.

To live on the surface, engage yourself in your senses, taking in sound, music, and all your sights and interactions (satori), living in appreciation, yet cling to nothing, meanwhile, your only thoughts should be that of the moments project. Instead of trying to consciously manage a million potential details to do, let your spontaneous hidden memory suggest when those things are appropriate.

I went on a ride on my new tandem with my neighbor, and we discovered a state park right next door that we never knew about all these years (and neither does anyone else). Returning from a day doing jury duty, a whim told me I had time not to hike the other 'official' state park, but (to treat myself well) , at least visit the lotus pond. I discovered a huge tortoise there who must have been hiding for years (I'd been thinking of tortoises lately). Choose to pragmatically enrich your living experience, going with the flow. Don't get paralyzed with an obsessive contemplation of what should be happening, just do it.

I was together as teen too. We didn't have hang-ups back then. We could participate or day-dream, and had years to find out if we were really on the right path or not. Now time is short, and we wish to know if we should be participating or daydreaming.

Tell jokes to your houseplants. The joy in your life is a choice.
anonymous
(reply to mandy) posted 15-May-2004 1:13pm  
http://www.adultjobs.com/ It pays like one to three dollars a minute.
nasale
posted 22-May-2004 12:32pm  
I sort of did a little bit of surveying for my mother years ago when she worked for Pro-Life. People can be so nasty at times! * wink * (Can't says I blame them. Touchy subject, that)
KiraNarice
posted 1-Jun-2004 10:35pm  
I do online surveys, and I make decent money doing it (though certainly not full-time income). There are good free sites out there like http://www.surveyfairy.com . Be warned - if you ever are prompted to pay to take a survey or buy a list of survey companies, you're being scammed.
heyzeus1
(reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 6-Jun-2004 8:29pm  
i want to know if my moon-distance calculation idea works, but no one seems to know.
what do you think?
http://surveycentral.org/#New
Kristal_Rose Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to heyzeus1) posted 7-Jun-2004 12:08am  
Don't know what you're talking about.
I take it that wasn't supposed to be a link to new completed surveys I've done.
heyzeus1
(reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 7-Jun-2004 12:11am  
no im referring to a question on my survey called how did we do it?
Kristal_Rose Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to heyzeus1) posted 7-Jun-2004 12:25am  
Even the ancient greeks were able to do it. It's basic trigonometry.
heyzeus1
(reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 7-Jun-2004 12:45am  
so my little example works?
Kristal_Rose Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to heyzeus1) posted 7-Jun-2004 2:01am  
If that was the intent. Did you create a survey about moon distances, or was that just a rouse. S'pose I could look for it.
heyzeus1
(reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 7-Jun-2004 2:20am  
what? no, i am serious.
the survey is called how did we do it?
and i tried to use geometry to calculate distance to the moon.
Kristal_Rose Survey Central Subscriber
(reply to heyzeus1) posted 7-Jun-2004 2:36am  
Well what a lousy name for a survey. I never visit surveys in which I can't identify the subject matter from the title, unless the title appears to be some sort of conceptual art.
heyzeus1
(reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 7-Jun-2004 11:19am  
i see
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