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  How would you protest being denied membership in a club?

Club trilogy, Episode 3. Say one of the clubs you really wanted to join decided you did not meet its defined criteria (see previous surveys for examples - sex, race, etc.). What would your reaction be?

VotesAnswer
27If there was another such club available, I'd join it instead.
13I would not dispute the denial.
12Other.
11It would matter more if the dispute was over the right of 'non-allowed' people to join (i.e. non-alcoholics being allowed into an alcoholic support group)
10I'd talk with the directors/board at this club to find a solution.
9I'd start a competing club of my own.
8It would matter more if the dispute was over my 'level of acceptance' (i.e. the club criteria was 'salary > $50k', they calculated your salary at $49,900 and you calculated it at $55,000)
8Like Bill, I would not join a club.
6It would not matter if the dispute was over my 'level of acceptance'
5It would not matter more if the dispute was over the right of 'non-allowed' people to join.
4I'd involve the media in my dispute.
3I am Bill and I would not join a club.
2Even if there was another such club available, I'd try to gain admittance to this one.
2I'd involve the legal system in my dispute.
2I would take other steps to dispute the denial.

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hunter
posted 26-Feb-1999 2:41pm  

I probably would not involve the legal system in my dispute unless I felt that I was being denied my legal rights or some calculable benefit and that a verdict in my favor would actually fix something.

I cannot say that I would not join a club, although the reality is that I do not join clubs (although I'm actually thinking about joining an interest-based club at the moment, I've been lame about sending in the sign-up sheet).
Jody
posted 26-Feb-1999 3:16pm  

How outraged would be depends on how strongly I believed I would be admitted, and how flimsy their reasons why I shouldn't be. I'm not much of a media-hound when it comes to fights like this - I tend to leave that kind of stuff to my mom (muckracker and fearless leader).
lara
posted 26-Feb-1999 3:36pm  

i suppose i'd just sulk for a while and then get over it. i'm not much of a joiner.
elijahblue
posted 26-Feb-1999 3:43pm  

This just seems silly. If you don't meet the defined criteria, what is there to protest about?
anonymous
posted 26-Feb-1999 3:55pm  

Elijah: so blacks shouldn't protest all-white golf courses?
Nyssa
posted 26-Feb-1999 4:25pm  

When I was a teenager I dated a guy who was addicted to cocaine. He refused to talk to anyone about it. I wanted to talk with people about the addiction, how it affects a person and likely ways to break the habit. I was told by the group I approached that I could not join because I personally was not addicted, and that I would have to convince the guy to go. I felt disappointed, because I was actively trying to get information and would have been able to participate at some level. They could even have said "you can listen to us, but not contribute since you don't know what it's like to go through this" - I would have been OK with that.
bill Survey Central Gold SubscriberSilver Star Survey Creator
posted 26-Feb-1999 9:54pm  

I gotsta gets me ah seekrit I den titty!
dab Survey Central Gold SubscriberSurvey Qualifier
posted 26-Feb-1999 9:58pm  

I've found all of these club questions very difficult to answer. I've tried to answer them in the spirit asked but I've never been unable to join a club or organization that I _wanted_ to join and find it hard to imagine. Were it to happen I don't think I'd do much more than gritch about it to friends.
elijahblue
posted 26-Feb-1999 11:17pm  

anon: If the golf course is privately funded, I believe it should be allowed to be whites-only, blacks-only, men-only, women-only, whatever. If it's publicly funded I don't.

But it's interesting that you should choose the usual example of a whites-only club. How about all the black-only clubs? Do you have a problem with those?
elijahblue
posted 26-Feb-1999 11:18pm  

bill: I thought you were a SNAG. What is all this blatant talk of titties? *smile*
lara
posted 27-Feb-1999 9:43am  

bill belongs to the society of north american goldsmiths???
bill Survey Central Gold SubscriberSilver Star Survey Creator
posted 27-Feb-1999 11:05am  

That would be a club - and it's a well know fact that I don't join clubs.
they Survey Central SubscriberBronze Star Survey CreatorThis user is on the site NOW (8 minutes and 34 seconds ago)
posted 28-Feb-1999 3:36am  

I don't do clubs... I am, however, interested in starting a cult. ;)
Catsmeow23
posted 1-Mar-1999 11:32am  

it would all depend on how badly I wanted to be in the club and if it were worth the battle
Lady
posted 2-Mar-1999 11:38am  

I don't know exactly how I'd take action, but I wouldn't want to be in a club with people who were prejudice (against my income, area I live in, gender, race, etc.) and superficial anyway. I'd just write it off as their loss.
mandy
posted 6-Apr-1999 8:55pm  

I'm NOT a joiner!!!!



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