| User | Comment |
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Enheduanna  |
No; your statement is not an unfounded assumption. It is a well-founded fact. People often make assumptions, which do often lead to misunderstanding and strife, but not always. Sometimes unfounded assumptions may in fact be helpful. |
| dora |
It depends on the people and on the circumstances. Nobody does this all the time with everybody. I actually don't even think this is a survey...  |
| sonikJ |
In logical philosophy, I would have to say that you have made an unfounded assumption about unfounded assumptions.....I guess my comment is also an unfounded assumption, then.
But still, the statement is not a valid argument, because the conclusion does not follow necessarily from the premises. I would call it begging the question. |
LindaH    |
If in your own personal experience, people make unfounded assumptions a majority of the time, that you are correct in saying this, and it isn't hypocritical. |
| LindaH |
OH, and by the way, I happen to agree that people do this WAY too much. I could go on and on about all the times this has happened to me. Since I happen to be the exception to a lot of rules, I've seen people apply the 'rule' to me, like they probably do with everyone. I think people like to categorize everyone and everything to make life simple. |
| Zang | | posted 2-Dec-2003 10:32pm |
No. I think that is a very accurate statement. |
| thevelvetcure | | posted 2-Dec-2003 11:07pm |
To answer your direct question, no you aren't a hypocrite. If you had said "I never judge a book by its cover, however "the majority of the time..." then you would be. I fully agree with your statement 100%. It really sucks, but we all have our personal experiences with individuals that amongst most people (except maybe a rare few ie - Ghandi, Mother Theresa, etc) these biasses and prejudices (no matter how small) are there. Is it right? No, however I believe that it's a security measure that our sub-conscious uses because we've had limited interactions with...Indian women...or Asian men...or whomever else. |
bill   |
I think there's some truth to your statement, but only sometimes. |
| Dino |
I'm actually confused by these answers. Yes, they do. |
| ROCKMAN |
Yes, your statement is an unfounded assumption.  I rarely assume things, and most of the people I know rarely do. Definatly not "all the time". I might say something like "I assumed you meant that" (after the fact) so I don't count that. |
icurok  | | posted 3-Dec-2003 10:30am |
Your statement is somewhat correct. But that has no bearing on whether you're a hypocrite on not. |
| LindaH |
People who are slow to pick up on stereotypes are usually exceptions to that rule. |
| caviartaste | | posted 3-Dec-2003 12:33pm |
I think you are completely correct. I don't have to know you to know that this is a proven fact. That is not making an assumption, so how could it make you a hypocrite? |
| thevelvetcure | | (reply to LindaH) posted 3-Dec-2003 1:25pm |
To a degree, I agree with you. Yes I believe that you are correct because they don't actively view people in this manner. However, there are quite a few people who look at the big picture, you know, the "people watchers." Some people are much more in tune with how they act and analyze better than others, this is how I've come to determine that I'm prejudice. Do I hate any race, religion, etc, no! But the minor assumptions that I make does make me prejudice to a degree.
Take for example a woman walking home from the grocery store at night, back to her apartment, and a man walking in the same direction as she is, crosses to her side of the street, thus 'following' her. Is she going to be on her guard? Is she going to look back a few times? Will she either take an alternate route home, or change her destination? These small little suspicions are biases, prejudices. If they weren't there, then nothing would be thought of the situation. That man could live in the same building as she. He may be "looking" out for her due to the situations of it being dark and she's walking alone, etc.
It's truly a matter of perspective. I know I'm prejudice, like I said, I believe that everyone is to some degree, however, we must strive to see past these and treat everyone on an individual basis. |
| southernyankee |
no, because you're not telling us explicitly that its bad or not to do it. your'e just telling us that we are doing it. |
| southernyankee | | (reply to BrightBlue) posted 3-Dec-2003 7:10pm |
In order to be a hyporcry, you have to say that something is bad and that people shouldnt do it. For instance, if you say "dont throw taht trash on the ground, when you yourself are a literer, then thats hypocracy" But if you simply point out "did you just throw that thing on the ground?", thats not hypocracy even if you do it yourself. |
| mandy |
from gods ass to your fist |
| moonstone | | posted 3-Dec-2003 10:48pm |
No, you're correct because you're not saying 'everyone', you said the 'majority of the time, people...', and it's true, people judge books by their covers. Always have done, always will do, just the way it is. It's learning how to, or how NOT to read people and how to deal with knowing that people are making assumptions about you. |
| judgescratch | | posted 5-Dec-2003 12:36pm |
No, it is a true statement. |
| LindaH |
Some people don't need to 'strive' to see past prejudices, though. It's natural for me to see people as individuals, and take everyone (and everything) on it's own merit. |
| thevelvetcure | | (reply to LindaH) posted 5-Dec-2003 8:59pm |
Then you are much better than 99.99% of the world, and for that I commend you. |
| LindaH |
Thanks. I think it might have happened on accident though, if you want to call it that. I spent my whole childhood and teen years totally oblivious to prejudices. I think that's when they develop. |
| Enheduanna | | (reply to mandy) posted 6-Dec-2003 1:30pm |
 That's going to be my favorite new saying!!! |
| Irene007 |
No... Why?
It happens all the time, most people hate their philosophy classes in high school and never learn to think for themselves nor question their own thoughts as to why they make such judgements...
I believe that philosophy should be taught much earlier than it is - this society needs it. |
| LindaH | | (reply to Irene007) posted 6-Dec-2003 2:52pm |
I think logic and reasoning should be taught earlier. There's a lot of things society needs like that. It goes right along with my opinion that kids should analyse situations before jumping in and playing hero, or telling on someone. They should be taught to put pieces together and consider all the possibilities before deciding on the most guilty or scandalous one. |
| romkey | | (reply to mandy) posted 6-Dec-2003 4:11pm |
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| Irene007 | | (reply to LindaH) posted 6-Dec-2003 6:59pm |
Yes, yes... I agree, and not make their judgements from other peoples' opinions too. We have to teach them to think... |
