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Take me to your leader...

It is time to elect a world leader, and your vote counts.
Here's the scoop on the three leading candidates.



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6Candidate A: associates with ward heelers and consults with astrologists. He's had two mistresses. He chain smokes and drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day.
5Candidate B: was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used opium in college and drinks a quart of brandy every evening.
31Candidate C: is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke, drinks an occasional beer and hasn't had any illicit affairs.

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jefff
posted 29-Jan-1999 10:23am  
Candidate A: Franklin D. Roosevelt

Candidate B: Winston Churchill

Candidate C: Adolf Hitler
Jody Bronze Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
posted 29-Jan-1999 10:33am  
Didn't Hitler have a mistress, Eva Braun? Or was that his wife?
Jody Bronze Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
posted 29-Jan-1999 10:34am  
Oh, and it would have been a more fair selection (although I got the point) if Candidate C said "Candidate C is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke, drinks an occasional beer, hasn't had any illicit affairs, believes in Eugenics, and wants to purge the world of anyone different from him."
Gamera
posted 29-Jan-1999 11:08am  
very nice, jefff. Jody, I think the point was that the bit about eugenics and purging wasn't clear until much later and it behooves one to look more deeply at candidates than the press initially offers.
jefff
posted 29-Jan-1999 11:18am  
I cannot take credit for the wording of the question - it was lifted shamelessly and verbatim from a bottomless forward. Statements as to any of the individuals' declared philosophies appear absent.
hunter
posted 29-Jan-1999 11:41am  
And otherwise their policies are identical? In that case, probably A.
hunter
posted 29-Jan-1999 11:46am  
It's a nicely turned wry joke, but as a survey I don't think it really works.
eris
posted 29-Jan-1999 12:34pm  
So this is what, a popularity contest? Do any of them have or lack relevant qualifications? BAD FERRET!

Ah. Now I see. Clever, though I have to agree it doesn't quite work as a survey.
lara
posted 29-Jan-1999 1:07pm  
I think it's a great survey, and y'all are just feeling bad because you picked Hitler. :) I picked candidate B because I liked the sleeping until noon part. If he's asleep, he can't be wreaking too much havoc...
lizzie
posted 29-Jan-1999 1:54pm  
Some insight into the person's views on various topics would be nice, but if the objective is to see who gets picked based on these merits alone, I'd probably have to say C.
jjg
posted 29-Jan-1999 2:09pm  
Jody: Hitler and Eva Braun never consummated their relationship. They were boyfriend and girlfriend with no hanky-panky. They also did get married the day of their deaths.
dpolicar
posted 29-Jan-1999 2:12pm  
I'm assuming "and they are otherwise identical" and consequently picking C 'cuz he's least often inebriated. Given other assumptions I might pick other choices.
gilly
posted 29-Jan-1999 2:37pm  
Eek!
elijahblue
posted 29-Jan-1999 2:59pm  
Adolf Hitler was an on-again off-again vegetarian. Mostly off-again. He wrote propaganda for animal rights, but he was also quite fond of sausage...
anonymous
posted 29-Jan-1999 3:55pm  
Can't blame someone for liking sausage.

"It can happen to anyone -- sausage is very seductive." --Filbert, "Rocko's Modern Life"
bill Survey Central Gold Subscriber Double Gold Star Survey Creator
posted 30-Jan-1999 8:47am  
um, where do they stand on the issues I care about?

Oh, I see. you got me!
they Bronze Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
posted 30-Jan-1999 9:47am  
Other... but I chose A because if I chose C, I'd be getting us into the same predicament that we're already in.
lovenlife
posted 30-Jan-1999 12:10pm  
Can we have some "in between" please..I just wouldn't vote. That also means I couldn't dog about what happens, though.
phi
posted 30-Jan-1999 5:58pm  
What's a ward heeler?

I couldn't decide between A and B. Taking astrology seriously and having been kicked out of office for good reason are both negatives for me, but you don't say that A takes it seriously or that there was a good reason for kicking B out, and anyway I'd rather have those than a warlord any day. Nothing wrong with drugs, booze, or mistresses (or vegetarianism) in my book, though.
phi
posted 30-Jan-1999 6:02pm  
Oh, I see, it's a reference to corruption. Call me J. Edgar Hoover...
jettles Survey Central Gold Subscriber Bronze Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
posted 30-Jan-1999 7:42pm  
have to admit i had seen this in my email already!!!
msgman
posted 1-Feb-1999 5:08am  
Presenting the candiates like that is very misleading, as it leaves out the most important factor: their policies. Of course, that's exactly the point you're making, but it's not a real-life situation. You can make anyone look good in this kind of comparison simply by picking the right factors.
seven
posted 1-Feb-1999 7:09am  
None of the Above
wynkin
posted 1-Feb-1999 7:12am  
I would actually go with A or C. I couldn't care less whether a leader smokes or not and if HAD mistressess, that doesn't mean he will continue. As a vegetarian myself, I think it would be great to have more world leaders who are not meat eaters. But none of these characteristics tell much about the candidtes knowledge of the political system and his/her ability to lead, which I feel form a
more compelling basis for a vote.
Wicksy Gold Star Survey Creator
posted 1-Feb-1999 7:28am  
what's ward heelers
cpierson
posted 1-Feb-1999 11:35am  
What the hell is a ward heeler?
jefff
posted 7-Feb-1999 6:00pm  
Allright already! A ward heeler is an Americanism that literally means someone who runs [heels] errands etc for the people in power [in the wards, i.e. the local voting districts].

It means a political sycophant - a suck-up, a toady. It implies someone who will "do" for those with power, without worrying about the issue or parties involved.

Whew! Now we're all much better prepared for that pop quiz later...

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As to the policies and leadership abilities of the three revealed "candidates". Quite frankly, they were all liberal democrats (within the political millieu of their cultures anyway) with strong socialist and nationalist tendencies. All were charismatic, all were strong leaders, with an ability to mobilize the government and the countries they ran to accomplish tremendous things. All had vision (although I think everyone here would agree that Candidate C's vision was a dark and corrupt one).

I think that perhaps the original bottomless forward doesn't mention anything about policy because the point is to demonstrate how big a disconnect there can be between the public perception and the internal realization of morality in the people we pick as our leaders.
drdt
posted 8-Feb-1999 4:34pm  
I could never vote for a vegetarian.
reality
posted 8-Feb-1999 5:29pm  
whee... I am happy to have picked Winston Churchill
mandy Gold Qualifier
posted 10-Apr-1999 4:58pm  
C
mandy Gold Qualifier
posted 10-Apr-1999 5:00pm  
definitely
pcpr
posted 29-May-1999 5:03am  
Boy, am I feeling good I didn't pick any -- seemed to me they all had something wrong with them!  * smile *

Jefff: that was good and cute, but does it mean the survey has to die?  * wink *
fooyun
posted 5-Aug-1999 8:34pm  
I would bring Socrates back and make him leader! None of the above.
drdt
posted 9-Sep-1999 6:44pm  
fy: luckily for you, all three of the candidates are as dead as Socrates.
Frostbrand Bronze Star Survey Creator
posted 23-Sep-1999 5:16pm  
D: Me
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