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How would you change history?

Imagine that you have the power to go back in time and do something that will change the outcome of a well-known historical conflict. You have been given a list of possible changes; it's up to you to decide which one you want to make happen.

Note: This is a hypothetical question, so there is no "other" option - you have to choose one of these options, or abstain. You can't change anything else in history!



VotesAnswer
9The American War of Independence was won by Britain
7The Confederate States won the American Civil War
3King Harold won at the Battle of Hastings
3The Arab nations won the Six-Day War with Israel
3The Falklands conflict was won by Argentina
2Napoleon won the Battle of Waterloo
1The Axis powers (Germany, Italy, Japan) won World War II
1Iraq won the first Gulf War
0The Royalists won the English Civil War
0The First World War was won by the Central Powers (Germany, Austro-Hungary, Turkey, Bulgaria)

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dora
posted 15-Jun-2003 1:01pm  
I won't.
darkshadowsseeker
posted 15-Jun-2003 3:24pm  
The American War of Independence being won by the British. It seemed the lesser of evils, at least to me.
mandy
posted 15-Jun-2003 3:51pm  
abstain.
juliw
posted 15-Jun-2003 5:39pm  
abstain
southernyankee Bronze Star Survey Creator
posted 15-Jun-2003 6:38pm  
just to make things interesting, i have the South win the civil war. On top of that, I would have them declare and win a war in Cuba. Then eventually, the whole slavery bullcrap thing would become outlawed and obsolete in the New Southern Republic anway, but the "US" would still be divided. Castro would never be in power, and the situation with WW1 would be compeltely different depending on how the "US" would intervene.
Dino
posted 16-Jun-2003 7:09am  
The American War of Independence was won by Britain.

We'll learn you, ya bastards!
bill Survey Central Gold Subscriber Double Gold Star Survey Creator
posted 16-Jun-2003 8:17am  
abstain... most of these would seem to be bad things, some I just don't know about (English Civil War? never heard of it, though Royalists sound like the bad guys). I guess I don't really get this question.
CarolL
posted 16-Jun-2003 8:42am  
I'll abstain. History wasn't really one of my strong points so I would be making a highly UNeducated guess.
Lex
posted 16-Jun-2003 11:53am  
King Harold winning!
Biggles Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
posted 16-Jun-2003 12:02pm  
Whichever one would have the least effect on modern life, which would probably be the Falklands. Meddling with the timeline could have unexpected results!!!
Biggles Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
(reply to Lex) posted 16-Jun-2003 12:03pm  
But then you wouldn't exist. So then you couldn't choose....so then....aaaargh!!!
Lex
(reply to Biggles) posted 16-Jun-2003 12:18pm  
ah... but my family name indicates a viking/norse origin. So perhasp I would still exist. Then again, I'm 3/32 french and 1/32 italian. oh well..
Hyena
posted 16-Jun-2003 1:48pm  
It would have been cool if Iraq won the Gulf War - but how could that be possible with the Americans spending more than half their national budget on war?
msgman Silver Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
(reply to bill) posted 16-Jun-2003 3:52pm  
"most of these would seem to be bad things". That's kind of the point - these are all events where the majority are happy that it ended the way it did, but there is still a significant and/or vocal minority who would disagree.

The English Civil War started, and was fought between the supporters of the king (the Royalists) and the supporters of parliament (the "Roundheads"). The Roundheads, under the command of Oliver Cromwell, won and England was, for a while, a republic.
Zang
posted 16-Jun-2003 4:51pm  
I'll let the British win the American Revolutionary War. That would be kind of interesting. I suspect that would have resulted in a larger Canada and Mexico by today.
Cleo
(reply to Dino) posted 16-Jun-2003 9:44pm  
 * laughing out loud * You funny monkee you!
southernyankee Bronze Star Survey Creator
(reply to bill) posted 17-Jun-2003 1:12am  
although i am no expert of english history, i know about this British civil war. The Roundheads lead by Oliver Cromwell, named for their short round hair cuts, were poor people, sort of like peasants. The Royalists where rich land owners (or something like that), and they had very pretty nice long hair. Sort of like the 'hair metal' look back in the 80's. or better yet, sort of like Newton's hair looked like, only a bit longer. in the end Cromwell won. I am not sure what was the cause of the war, nor do i know the implications of the aftermath. well, at least thats the story i heard. i had never realized that it was such a major event.
southernyankee Bronze Star Survey Creator
(reply to Dino) posted 17-Jun-2003 1:20am  
hym, actually Britain had empires all over the globe. I dont see what made the US so special, other than becoming a superpower and all. eventually, Britain got their butts kicked by pretty much all their colonies, and "the US" would have eventually won out in the end. they would all become free eventually, just in differnt order. the big difference would be that then we wouldnt be such a super power, which would drasticly effect the outcome of WWI.

the big success of the Revolution had a lot to do with timing. what made this revolution so successful was that it took place before the indursial revolution, unlike someone like India who really were going up against horrible odds. if we would have hold on for just a few more moments with just a bit more patients, we would have been screwed.

yeah, maybe the British would have eventually learned, its just a matter of time, or should i say timing.
Biggles Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
(reply to southernyankee) posted 17-Jun-2003 6:28am  
 * laughing out loud *  * laughing out loud *  * laughing out loud * A war of different haircuts!!! Yep, that's what it was alright!  * laughing out loud *

Actually it was very major, it led to Parliament being set up the way it was. Most countries around the world seem to base their political systems on the British one, so it was an incredibly important war.
bill Survey Central Gold Subscriber Double Gold Star Survey Creator
(reply to msgman) posted 17-Jun-2003 6:42am  
I guess the explanation threw me. "I have the power..." It's not like I was forced in some way to have to do one of these. The way it's worded, I get the impression that you assume I have a secret desire to screw the world up. If the explanation was more like "You have to do one of these things, or they'll rape your mother", then I might have considered picking one.
ROCKMAN
posted 17-Jun-2003 8:27am  
If I was going to change something I'd like to see what it would of been like if the Confederate States had won the Civil War.
southernyankee Bronze Star Survey Creator
(reply to Biggles) posted 17-Jun-2003 12:40pm  
actually, wasn't that system originally devoloped in Rome and this is the extention of it. well, the more democratic version of it.

speaking of war of different haircuts, this sounds a lot of like punk rockers vs popular culture back in the 80's. Then again, Mike Mustine (I think that's his name) was once on VH1 being pissed of and saying bad things about "hair metal" bands, like bon jovi, skid row, and bands like that.
southernyankee Bronze Star Survey Creator
(reply to ROCKMAN) posted 17-Jun-2003 12:42pm  
yeah, would be pretty interesting.
Biggles Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
(reply to southernyankee) posted 17-Jun-2003 3:01pm  
"actually, wasn't that system originally devoloped in Rome and this is the extention of it. well, the more democratic version of it."

That's not really the system I meant, but it's too hot too write a long explanation!
southernyankee Bronze Star Survey Creator
(reply to Biggles) posted 17-Jun-2003 3:10pm  
some of the same concepts came from Rome though. I was wondering though, who first came up with the concept of the three seperate branches of government. is the war between the Cromwells and the Royalists the cause of the system.
Biggles Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
(reply to southernyankee) posted 17-Jun-2003 3:28pm  
I suppose - with the monarch only being part of the political system. Obviously that draws on Ancient Greece and Rome, but for a long time, nobody had political systems like that. Of course, nowadays Britain doesn't have it either - our executive is part of the legislative body (because the monarch has no real role) - only the judiciary is separate.
ROCKMAN
(reply to southernyankee) posted 17-Jun-2003 3:44pm  
Yea it would, wouldn't it!
southernyankee Bronze Star Survey Creator
(reply to Biggles) posted 17-Jun-2003 8:46pm  
yeah, there is a lot of intertied connections between the 3 branches, so they arent that seperate. over here, I think, the vice president is the president of the senate. also, a lot of intermingling between the 3 involes a lot of 4th parties. some say that burocracies are the 4 th branch of governmetn.
Maarten
posted 18-Jun-2003 10:36am  
The Arab nations won the Six-Day War with Israel.
Richard47
posted 26-Jun-2003 2:18pm  
With a diaper.
kaleb777 Bronze Star Survey Creator
posted 5-Jul-2003 12:25pm  
Tha Arab nations won the war against Israel. Let the Arabs have it. The Jews can build their holy land in part of Australia where their hard work and ingenuity will be welcomed and rewarded.
Glassa
posted 9-Jul-2003 1:43pm  
There seems to be a bit of wrong history here.
Germany, Italy and Japan didn't win WWII, otherwise the Jews would still be in camps and murdered. The USA stopped that war by dropping the A-bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Iraq didn't win the first Gulf War. If they did, they'd still be in Kuwait.

Somebody needs a history lesson!
Glassa
posted 9-Jul-2003 1:48pm  
Whoops, I misunderstood.
I didn't realize things were put backwards from the way it actually happened. I probably wouldn't change anything. I'd be afraid it would change the world too much.
Glassa
(reply to ROCKMAN) posted 9-Jul-2003 1:49pm  
I'm surprised somebody hasn't freaked out on here and called you racist  * smile *
ROCKMAN
(reply to Glassa) posted 10-Jul-2003 7:29am  
Hey theres nothing racist about wondering what it would be like if the south won, I justkinda wonder.
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