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| single | 18-Jan-2003 | politics/religion | silas | unsorted | 56 | 7 | 58.8% |
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| Biggles | posted 19-Jan-2003 11:56am I think it's unikely. We may have a system a little like the EU but for the entire globe (more so than the UN) but I can't see a truly unified world government happening. |
| ROCKMAN | posted 19-Jan-2003 12:45pm I don't think earth will ever have a true world government. |
| Enheduanna | posted 19-Jan-2003 12:49pm I have no idea. It doesn't seem likely any time in the next couple of hundred years, but who knows how long the planet will be around and what could happen given a few millennia. |
| dora | posted 19-Jan-2003 1:20pm Not on paper. Not officially. |
| juliw | posted 19-Jan-2003 2:53pm I don't think so. |
| darkshadowsseeker | posted 19-Jan-2003 3:20pm I don't know. |
| dab | posted 19-Jan-2003 4:05pm I sure hope not. At least not as governments are constituted today. |
| Glassa | posted 19-Jan-2003 6:42pm I certainly hope not. Different countries around the world have different values and beliefs. I certainly wouldn't want to be ruled by the government of England or Cuba or anyone who believes either one is an ideal. |
| Zang | posted 19-Jan-2003 6:45pm I don't see it happening anytime soon. Unless, of course George W. Bush is the Antichrist, then it might happen anytime. |
| Iseult | posted 19-Jan-2003 8:50pm No. I don't believe that world peace and utopia are possible. Or anything else good. |
| scrubnurse | posted 20-Jan-2003 2:26am Of all your choices, I picked the one about extinction. I think it would be doubtful, though, and eventually...well, you know. |
| kaleb777 | posted 20-Jan-2003 3:42am Although I believe the governments seen by average plebs are just puppets, with unseen elite groups pulling the strings, I believe we still haven't got a true one world government. I think there will be one government after humanity is forced into a crisis after a series of disasters, mainly human induced like financial crashes and plagues, as well as divide and conquor techniques like religious and racial conflict and terrorism brought on by economic pressure and aftificially created resource shortages. Once the planet is in a giant crapstorm, these elite pricks who have artificially encouraged much of the toubles will step out from the background and say something like "OK, enough is enough. We have been working on answers to all of these problems. We can cure your plagues, provide water, food, and jobs with new technologies, all with no pollution! All you have to do is give us the power to act. In these times of human disaster, we must have ultimate power to enact all the measures we see fit. Oh, and you need an identification mark to ease allocation of your aid resources |
| Dino | posted 20-Jan-2003 7:48am Its possible that the UN will grow in power and stature but esentially countries will still have their own government. So I guess the answer is no. |
| Okiryu | posted 20-Jan-2003 10:41am There is just too much bickering in the world and everyone seems to have a different opinion on how things should be run. |
| southernyankee | posted 20-Jan-2003 11:10am i am not sure it ever will. it might. i've been to some "seminar" with some hot shot professor in ecomonics was explaining how there can never be just one super power, nor can there be too many. one superpower is unstable (thus rome, the church, and subseqeuntly the US shall fall too). however, during the cold war, two superpowers lasted and suposedly everything was stable. also, acoriding to him, the world is getting globolized, but at the same time, its getting framented. assuming this guy is corrent, if anything, a true anarchy on a small scale will take place before a single world government. acoring to him, the world's governments are headed in a direction back to where we were back in the middle ages (with lords and nobles, before kings centralized everything) expect without the knighthood thing, cause the national boundries are getting bluryier. this is all due to the internet. but of course keep in mind, he's just a profesor, its not like he holds the wisdom to all that will come. and also, then again, this is the same guy that predicts violent religious tention from the southern hemisphere. well, he might be right, but i'd doubt it. |
| cody | posted 20-Jan-2003 4:37pm No. |
| icurok | posted 24-Jan-2003 12:56pm In terms of science fiction, should the human race ever get to the stage where we are dealing with alien races on a political, social and economic level, it makes sense for there to be a single entity representing Earth as a whole. I doubt whether this would be a "government" as much as a future equivalent of the United Nations. |
| icurok | (reply to kaleb777) posted 24-Jan-2003 12:59pm I take it you've heard of the Bilderberg Group? |
| kaleb777 | (reply to icurok) posted 24-Jan-2003 2:05pm Oh yeah. |
| kaleb777 | (reply to icurok) posted 24-Jan-2003 2:07pm Interesting you talk of aliens. Didn't Reagan speak of an outside threat uniting all of humanity? Perhaps he meant uniting under one flag or government. |
| icurok | (reply to kaleb777) posted 24-Jan-2003 2:25pm Who knows? Maybe he was talking about illegal aliens and predicting Al-Queda terrorists posing as asylum seekers! Anyway, I doubt that all of our encounters with alien races will follow the Star Trek model of 1 planet = 1 government = 1 major species = 1 culture = 1 costume. But then I also doubt that all the aliens we encounter will be humanoids with differently ridged foreheads, eyebrows or noses. Interestingly, the man who is alleged to be Britain's top Bilderberg representative was on Question Time (our most revered panel-in-front-of-an-audience discussion programme) last night. He said that while he had an open mind, he had not been persuaded that the case had been made for a war against Iraq. Being as he is senior political figure, his comments have made the news today. |
| kaleb777 | (reply to icurok) posted 25-Jan-2003 10:55am Being a Bilderberger, I wouldn't trust a word he says. I doubt he can remember the last time he told the truth to the media. I doubt he's even a true conservative. I even doubt his election loss wasn't planned somehow. The guy who won against him was probably also one of 'them'. These people plan in the long term. This war has probably been on the agenda for 20 years. |
| anonymous | posted 26-Jan-2003 7:16pm The True Christ Jesus |
| icurok | (reply to kaleb777) posted 27-Jan-2003 1:55pm I don't particularly trust a word he says either, but not because he or is not a Bilderberger. It's more to do with the fact that he's a) a politician and b) a fat old Tory with his pockets being lined by the tobacco industry. Interestingly, I've read a few articles that were written by Bilderberg conspiracy theorists before the result of the Conservative leadership election. All of them predicted victory for Clarke. Of course what they probably forgot to take into account was that the election was based on "one member one vote" and there are 300,000 members of the Conservative party. Iain Duncan Smith isn't "one of them" (or at least he wasn't before the election), he's simply seen by the Tory grassroots as someone who can modernise the Conservative party whilst maintaining its euro-skepticism. Something Ken Clarke wouldn't have done. On the subject of the upcoming war, I've no doubt that the idea has been around for the last 10 years, and has been planned for during the last 5. But 20 years? I don't buy that. The situation was a lot different 20 years ago. If you argued that for the last 20 years, the US/UK has had a doctrine of "we support foreign military dictatorships until they cross the line and piss us off" then of course I'd agree with you. If you're suggesting that there's been an active planned campaign to get rid of Saddam Hussein for the last 20 years, I'd disagree. |
| kaleb777 | (reply to icurok) posted 27-Jan-2003 2:28pm Maybe this particular war wasn't the one planned, but you can bet they had a similar one in mind. What a perfect way to divide and conquor the planet, with a religious war. The "situation" you speak of 20 years ago was the situation we were allowed to see. There was and is a lot more going on behind the scenes. Right now they're probably planning on what will happen 50 years from now. These people are transgenerational fruitcakes. They've been doing this for centuries. |
| icurok | (reply to kaleb777) posted 27-Jan-2003 3:48pm "They" is an emotive word when it comes to conspiracy theories. You can go on and on about "them" and what "they" want, and what "they're" doing against "us". The problem is when you try and define who "they" are and more importantly what "they" want. I know the Bilderberg Group exists. I know that Kenneth Clarke and Tony Blair are both members. The reason that I know this, is that both had to register expenses received from Bilderberg during a conference held in Greece in 1993. What I don't know (having never been invited myself) is what actually happens at Bilderberg conferences other than a group of influential men sitting in a hotel discussing the state of things. The political think tank's equivalent of the Travelling Willburys. What doesn't help however, is that the sort of people talking about Bilderberg in paranoid hushed tones sound like fruitcakes themselves. People like David Icke, who once had a penchant for dressing up in turquoise shell-suits whilst claiming to be the son of god, and now thinks we're secretly ruled by a race of lizardmen. Or Norris McWhirter, a man who tried to have the Maastricht Treaty signatories tried for treason. Or Tony Gosling, who used to work for the BBC and now labels himself as an "alternative Christian". |
| Mego0715 | posted 28-Jan-2003 12:04am I don't know. Maybe the question is will the world ever experience unity among all peoples and creatures or something - in which case I would say it might be possible, but perhaps not in terms of government of any kind. It may be a post-government reality. |
| starrpickle | posted 28-Jan-2003 11:58am as advances in technology and travel increase the possibility for a global government, i'm not sure when or if it will actually occur; but if it does i think the driving factors could be currency, language, and a new religion |
| kaleb777 | (reply to icurok) posted 29-Jan-2003 3:49pm They are the Bilderbergers sure. 'They' are also the extremely wealthy elite. I'm sure with her newly found wealth, Athena Onassis would have been groomed for her 18 years to be one of 'them' although she will need more conditioning I'm sure. "They" are any powerful individual or group who manipulate world events for their own reasons. I'm sure there is a groups of people even more powerful than the Bilderbergs who are beyond living in the public eye. I'm sure the Bilderberg meetings have some legitimate topics of concern. I doubt they sit around saying "OK, if we delay food aid to Ethiopea for another 3 months we can force a war between desperately hungry but well armed rebels and Eritrea. Then we can lend them money after the war for redevelopment, and the high interest we will charge will force them to virtually give us their mineral reserves for nothing", but that doesn't mean that sort of thing just gets done. Watch JFK on DVD. In the special features, an insider talks about how thinks like the assasination of Kennedy aren't ordered or agreed on openly. Sometimes it's just felt this is what must be done, or individuals talk to one another in private until the entire group understands what is to be done. Icke has some interesting ideas, but he has either lost it with that lizard pap, or he is working with "them" as a disinformation agent. Disinformation always has some truth mixed in with half truths and total garbage. It's purpose is to make people discount everything that is said. Even if Icke was stating fact 50% of the time, the other half is wacky enough to create doubt even in people who feel there is something more going on than what the media show us. Some of these men are brilliant, but what they have found is too much for most people. We have a man here who is a lawyer and who has proven in court that local government taxes (rates, parking fines etc) are illegal under the Australian constitution, but even knowing that, what do you do? As an individual you can refuse to pay and you will eventually have your property confiscated or be jailed, even if it is technically illegal. It would take a revolution to change, and even then the State Government could just pass an act stating it now collected the taxes on behalf of local government. Some things that are known cannot be acted on anyway, and a man who stnds up and fights is soon seen as fighting a lost cause and painted as a crank. Media and lawmakers are on the side of 'them' - the elite. Last year I paid more income tax than Australias richest billionaire because he had the means to avoid tax. What can I do? I just have to be glad they allow me enough money to eat, drive back to work, and buy a modest house after 20-30 years of labor. |
| grmbrand | posted 31-Jan-2003 1:53pm Not in the next few years. |
| anonymous | (reply to kaleb777) posted 3-Feb-2003 9:56am "Last year I paid more income tax than Australias richest billionaire." More money, or a higher percentage of your income? |
| kaleb777 | (reply to anonymous) posted 3-Feb-2003 1:12pm More money. That's what sucks the most. He has managed to show a virtual loss on paper. Why anonymous? |
| mrnemo15 | posted 12-Feb-2003 8:27pm Earth will never have any kind of a world government. I believe that humanity has the capability of forming a world government eventually, but with humanity armed to the teeth and as emotionally stable as a spoiled three year old, I don't think that we'll last long enough to form a world government. |
| linny21 | posted 9-Mar-2003 7:10pm I don't see it happening. |
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