What do you dislike about [insert political group you disagree with here]?

All of the above.

I have no idea who any of them are.

all of them?
everything!

Everything.

Ick.

mostly the followers on both sides. some people really seem to take their side and put a flag around it. they are diehard fans on their party.

i really cant stand all those dumbasses who always vote for the same party leader no matter what. its like, "oh i dont care all the crap that clinton has done, i am still gonna vote dem cause i am a dem" or "i dont care how ignorant and a dadd's boy w is, i gonna vote fer him cause he's a rep." this way the elections become a lot more predictible and the people who will run this country will be swing voters and special interests. i guess i cant really complain cause i am sort of a swing voter.

i really dont like the leaders either because they're full of retoric and only tell their voters what they wanna hear, and only their voters. they seem to make a carrer out of dividing their people from their opponents people.

i dont like the rhetoric or the idealogy of any party, hell, i dont like plain rhetoric. polictics today are way way to complicated and over most people's heads, with way too many special intests and movenments, and all that the politicans do for us is oversimplify them. they just take a handfull of agendas, shove them into one pile, and make a platform out of them. because of all this, every major and idependant polictical party at some point contradicts itself.

for instance, the reps favor local and state school control, and then they back natianal testing. the dems favor a federally ran shcool system, but then they all oppose any test on the federal level. the reps are made up of and favor policies set forth by foward looking big bussiness and corporate intrests, but then their other consitates are a bunch of backwards right wing christian coliation small town dwellers who praise loyalty to small town mom and pop stores and god. they favor genetic engienrring investing corporations and scientists who produce geneticly altered food, clone sheep and maybe one day humans, but then tehy have a bunch of "god made us in his image, human cloning is wrong, etc etc" type of people. the more libral dems want to opose the death penalty but want to ok abotions, and the reps vice versa, want to save every possible bundle of cells as if it actually had any rights, but then want to fry everyone in prison. one wants to raise wages, help out and save the poor, but then also wants to save a bunch of cute animals. and off course the libraticans want to go back in time back when there was no governemtn and at the same time go into the future and turn this country into a giant urnban city of the future. there's just way too many contradictions for me to wanna back either party, even if i have contradictions of my own.

hte only thing i dont have a problem with is the policy and execution. somehow, dispicte all this insanity, our government runs smoothly enough with only octaional stuid laws.

the religious right....... all of the above.

I hate everything about the Greens. Everything they oppose, they also use. They're all hypocrites. Their policies are divisive and racist because they treat non-white races like innocent children who need protection and special treatment. They believe people should be given positions based on their sex or race, not on their ability. They block dams which result in small towns running out of water in droughts. They believe anyone who arrives in Australia illegally should be allowed to live free in society no matter who they are or what their history is. The most insane thing is that they call themselves greens, yet they believe CO2 is pollution and we should try to reduce CO2 in the atmosphere. They should be called the Browns. They come up with insane ideas like fart taxes for sheep, and ignore facts like how unleaded petrol is full of carcinogens, and how satellite readings actually show global cooling is occurring. Warming is a lie.

These people are no better than a religion. Facts mean nothing to these misanthropic fanatics.

democrats AND republicans and the answer is-ALL OF THE ABOVE!

All of the above. Particularly "policy/execution". The political group I disagree with most would probably be the Fascists, which would include fascists which call themselves by other names.

PAVE THE FUDGING PLANET!!!

All execpt the ideology. Most ideology's sound great if they were to work. Sadly most ideologys dont take into account the fact that were are dealing with people here.
Its therefore the followers that bug me more than the party itself.

There has to be a happy medium no?

...just teasing. I find it amusing that you seem to think that in order for someone to find fault with a political system, they must go to strenuous lengths to set themselves up as some sort of example (as difficult as that might be, given that the system they strive for is not the one they live in), where as the complacent individual is not under this scrutiny. You've essentially set up a Catch-22 situation; if you protest, you shouldn't live within the system you are protesting.

Exactly. Don't you think it's a little hypocritical for green representatives to hold a meeting in Canberra like they did recently? For a start, most of the representatives had to come from the northern hemisphere, they all flew here on jets that pump out nasty CO2 they say they hate so much, they met in air conditioned conference halls with little natural light and ate food grown with intensive farming. I don't know. Maybe it's just me, but if I were trying to push a cause I'd make sure I lived as much by that ideology as possible, even if only to avoid criticism. If I was a green, I would locate the address of every representative and find the nearest city with conference facilities closest to the majority of reps, so minimal travel and fossil fuel use is achieved. I would then organise gas powered buses to pick up reps from the airport, not the stretch limmos they had in Canberra! They would eat food grown without pesticides and only meat that had been grown free range and fish that was farmed.

They did none of this. I understand they live in the system they protest, but there are options closer to what they seek. They didn't use them. This is my point. It's also possible to find a society that lives closer to how greens want us to live. Australia is the highest (per capita) user of fossil fuels. The US and Canada use more overall. These three countries should be avoided by green ideologues. If they really believed in what they were spewing, they wouldn't be taking advantage of comfort of the western capitalist system they despise. They could move to the highlands of New Guinea. They use no fossil fuels, and eat only what they can hunt or gather - a left-wing-green-nut paradise. Hell, I believe they even recycle used syringes! OK I'm being sarcastic, but can't you see why I hate these people? They are telling everyone else we should cut down on certain things (fair enough) while using these things in excess to spread their message.

I'm all for moderation and wise use of resources. I recycle, have solar hot water, drive a 3 cylinder car, wash my clothes with rain water I collect and flush the toilet with a bucket that fills while showering. I compost, and have turned my property into a place where native birds, reptiles and amphibians abound. I also believe that since we are physical beings, we are always going to have some impact, and since this is our home too, we have that right. I object to people telling me humans are bad and we should be trying for the impossible - zero impact - especially when the people spewing this garbage are hypocrites who clearly don't really believe in what they are saying.

Ah! Interesting. I had no idea that you were practicing what you were preaching against. Okay, granted, you were preaching against the hypocrites, not what THEY were preaching. I think that is very commendable, and I apologise for my rather mistaken attitude.

I think I'm a moderate in most things. I'm not against many things environmentalists espouse. What I am against is certain groups trying to force people to live a certain way by legislation or by taxing fossil fuel energy out of use, especially when these same groups use more resources than the average person trying to spread their views. People who don't plant trees and who fail to use solar live in an ugly place and pay more for their hot water. That's what they get. They should have the right to be left alone to live that way, especially when the jury is still out on such things as global warming etc.

You know, I once requested some information from our local Green Party, because I was considering voting for them in an up-coming election. I can't remember whether I voted for them or not, but they really pissed me off by sending me all this junk mail for months afterwards, begging me for money. Finally, I got so fed up that I used one of the postage paid response envelopes to mail back their torn up literature. On each page, where it said "Made from 50% recycled paper" I wrote underneath "and 50% murdered trees"!

It worked! They stopped sending me junk mail.

Good on you. I've noted last state election that the greens were handing out how-to-vote flyers outside the polling place just like everyone else. There was a garbage bin full of green party flyers. It was all really white bleached paper too. I've had mail from Greenpeace with a plastic address window in it. I wonder how many millions of those got sent out. They just piss me off. The thing that really pisses me off is their site. I've got to stop visiting it, but I love picking it to pieces. They once had a picture of sone Nicaraguan survivors of a hurricane with a caption reading "victims of global warming" as if hurricanes never existed before the industrial revolution. I wrote a letter posing as a greenpeace member who objected to misleading claims used on their site and found that a week later that item had been removed.

I would probably support environmentalists more if they didn't lie to try to sway the great unwashed masses. They seem to be targeting people with no logic, just to get the dollars rolling in.

Yeah! They're kind of like politicians that way!

As I said in a recent survey: "I have trouble imagining anyone getting very far into the political system with their ideals intact, unless of course their ideals consist of the most base and degraded forms of self-interest."

It's a real shame. I'd like to see a legitimate person in politics. We had a female fish and chip shop owner here who came out and just told it like it is - no bullcrap, and the party she formed did very well at the first election it stood in. Other people who didn't vote for her said things like "yeah, I agree with everything she says, but she isn't articulate enough to be Prime Minister". Who cares? As long as what they do is what the people want. Just once I'd like to see a politician say what they mean. The closest I've seen it is by an opposition member here who called our Prime Minister an "arse licker" after he came back from being George Bush's lap dog.

We've had situations like that in our provincial politics. A few years ago, well, maybe ten, a fellow took this party out of nowhere, stormed into the election debates, destroyed the incumbent party and became opposition leader. Before another election was called, the media dredged up a lame sex scandal, the leader was ousted, and his party was taken over by all the same butt-holes that had seen their party destroyed by him!

I think our democracy works pretty good here in Canada. Unlike the states, people aren't afraid to toss out an old party and elect an new one. Unfortunately, the new parties usually get taken over by the same old craps once they become viable. If only there were some way of getting around that, the system would work really well.

Yeah, this woman was destroyed too. They started by calling her racist when she called for all Australians to be treated equally (?!), then it was found one of the major parties organised protests against her an bused in a "crowd" so it looked bad on TV. Then they got her on some electoral registration technicality which she is currently fighting in court. She was going to lose her house before a fighting fund was established which raised over $1 million is two weeks. That in itself said a lot about what the people thought about her. Since all of that I have vowed to never vote for one of the 2 majors.

Yeah! Democracy in action, eh?

I'm really not one for all these political surveys. So I don't have much to contribute.

I don't care for politics at all...I just wish people could get over the party lines and work together!

Yeah, More and more I like The Holy Grail's "autonomous collective"

"Help! Help! I'm being repressed!"

"Bloody peasant!"

i dont know what the crap your talking about son