Have you ever used ecstasy?

In the 1980s, a therapist experimented with SMALL doses of ecstasy for his patients, and his tudy showed that it actually treated clinical depression quite well, until Big Mama Government stepped in because 'the poor wittle States can't take care of demselves!'

In case you wonder what I mean by "small," the dosage was roughly HALF of waht you get in just one of the illegal street pills, the kind you find in rave clubs.

Never, and I don't intend to.

I saw an article where it was being used to treat a degenerative disease. Maybe Parkinson's? It seemed quite successful but people can only use it illegally.

Kinda like how marijuana before it was outlawed showed signs of being able to treat herpes. Of course, since you can't patent medicines unless they have chemicals in them...

The U.S. Government! #1 in making sure that their own people suffer as often as possible for our 'leader's' own sadistic reasons!

NO! Of course not! I'm not stupid. I have common sense.

Marijuana and ecstacy both have chemicals in them

I've used it a few times. Last time I used it I woke up in the middle of the streeet next to an ambulance with a head wound. I have no idea what happened.

Several times.

Um, I mean artificial chemicals. You see, in the States you can't patent and therefore make money off a medicine if it's made ENTIRELY of natural materials, such as those found in plants and animals. But something made/grown in a lab...

Well, I'm sure SOMEONE will understand my mangled point and find a way to make it sensible.

That's weird, but it kind of makes sense.

Yep, and these so-called Medical companies didn't want to lsoe out on the ever lucrative Diesease Market. Plus, in 1936 Popular Mechanics magazine hailed the invention of a new press that would speed up the process of turning hemp into paper. The large companies with timber holdings who owned members of Congress such as Kimberly-Clark, DuPont, and Hearst Manufacturing didn't like that at all. So, thw two conglomerates got together, and marijuana was outlawed in 1937. And of course the race card was played. I beleive it was said, on the floor of Congress, that pot had to be banned because smoking it might make a black man look at a white woman twice! In those days that was still a capital offense. They also said marijuana had to be criminalized, becuase using it might cause you to "fall under the influence of listening to jazz." That's why I hate these stupid kids who call jazz old fogie music, for a bunch of uptight conservative butt-holes. Hey, at least the cops don't arrest you for listenign to the kinds of music you like you stupid teenage fudge. Try being a jazz fan in the 1920s and then tell me what you think. For that matter, be a Sinatra fan in the 40s a, an Elvis fan in the 50s or a Beatles fan in the 60s. Suddenly your parents harping on you for liking Ludacris, doesn't seem so ludicrous, does it?

End of Rant.

How the fudge did this get through?

Yes, I used it... so far, seven times, I don't use it anymore. There is no fudgeen options for that. Honestly...

No drugs for me.

I've used it a fair bit and learn a lot from and gotten a lot out of my use of it. I don't know if I'll ever use it again.

No..but I wouldn't refuse if someone offered it to me

One of my friends had a Christmas party. I arrived around 5:00 PM and started drinking. After everyone had pretty much left, we went to a local bar. When that place closed at 2:00 AM, we went to a booze can just up the street a block and stayed there until it closed, probably no earlier than 6:00 AM.. We had met up with this guy at the booze can who invited some of us back to his place, so we all piled into his car and headed over. The fellow was a chemist who worked for a local vitamin factory. He lived in a place that screamed tacky 1970s louder than any place I've ever seen. It was decorated entirely with wood paneling and green shag carpeting. He had continued with the theme by hanging black velvet bullfighter paintings everywhere. He had a pet pig. We all settled into the livingroom, he lit a fire, got everyone a beer and then brought out the cocaine. I hate cocaine, so I declined that. Being a hospitable fellow, he offered me some ecstasy. I had never tried it before, but I had read about it, and was game to give it a try, so I did.

I was sitting on the hearth, petting the pig, when the drugs started to take hold. I was suddenly overwhelmed with a very disconcerting sensation. Although I wouldn't describe it as pleasant, it wasn't particularly unpleasant either. I felt as though every nerve in my body was sending a message to my brain simultaneously. Most of them were saying "business as usual", but it was a weird sensation. I had moved back to the couch, and my host noticed that I was kind of holding myself. He said "Your getting the rush now. Sometimes you feel like puking. If you have to puke, just go ahead, and then you'll feel great."

I didn't feel like puking, but I did feel like I wanted to be alone, so I went into the bathroom. I must have been in there for about ten minutes. I was thinking that I didn't want to be around people. Later, this feeling subsided, and I was glad that I didn't leave, because now I had quite the opposite feeling; that I didn't want to be alone.

I could no longer tolerate the taste of beer, so I switched to water. I felt very warm and comfortable and had a profound sense of all being right with the world. It was like a gentle stimulation of all my body's pleasure centres. After a while, sitting and talking with these people, two of whom were friends (the women), and two of whom were complete strangers (my host and another fellow), I felt a very deep connection with them, on a personal level. I remember expressing how I felt that they were all good people who I liked very much.

I'm not sure how long it lasted, but I would guess at least two hours but not more than four. When I came down, it was quite abrupt. Most drugs I have used tend to rise gradually, peak, then fade out gradually. I found that this experience was more like an initial rush which was uncharacteristic of the rest of the high, followed by a lengthy plateau and then suddenly *snap* it's gone.

Although I found it quite enjoyable, I had no desire to repeat the experience. This occurred around the time that I swore off drugs. It has been over ten years since I really used drugs at all.

E has put friends of mine in the hospital. I think drugs are just terrible, if they get you when you do them... They sure get you when you stop doing them. I want my brain back!

The turning your brain into swiss chees thingy sort of turns me off, but more than that is the supposed feeling you get where you want to hug people because you feel so connected to them. I don't want to do that straight. Why would I take a drug to make me do it? I prefer other drugs where you stay emotionally in control. Even alcohol for me is that way. I never get beer goggles when I'm pissed.

No and I will never try it.

Nope, and I don't want to.

Plenty of times and for me I had the best experience of my life each time. I never go out of my way to do it, and I haven't done it in 4 or 5 years or so. I have seen what it can do to people in a negative respect but I would do it again. I think it's silly to NEVER do it, that's just me. I do understand NEVER using a needle for speed or heroin and that is only because that pretty takes away all your control while your high, and even after you sober up.... which leaves no control left for yourself. At least when (in my experience) you sober up off of ecstasy or acid... you pretty much have no desire for more. To me that is okay because the control is back in your court.

Don't you have a kid? What kind of example are you trying to set??

HA!

Other. You failed to provide a place for someone who HAS used it multiple times/regular basis but no longer does it. I used to do this in the 80s but have not done it since then. It did very little for me, yet I continued to waste my money on it, hoping I could get something out of it; mainly wondering if it would make me more "social" since I had heard it was good for that sort of thing. It did not. Evidently it does not have the same effect on me, a person with Asperger's syndrome, than it does on so-called "normal" users. It was "okay" -- I got a pretty good rush when I was first coming on to it, and it seemed to make me feel a bit more mellow than usual. I did not ever take it with another person, however, and that is what you're supposed to do. Instead I would play with my computer. I used to take it also with grass and acid and had some pretty good trips, but again, always alone. I regret the amount of money I wasted on it because this stuff is expensive -- at least it used to be. I would buy a gram at a time for $120 bucks and do the whole thing over a weekend. It was powder, not pills, and I used to mix it in orange juice.

no

No,I don't think I would like to try,but I'm not sure.Maybe someday.

Never ever ever ever! I fear for my safety and the stability of my mind.

No.
The parents of Leah Betts came to talk to us in school shortly after their daughter had died of an ecstasy overdose. It's put me off up to now.

That's not to say I won't try it in the future.

I am doing a essay on the use of ecstacy in raves and i need some information about it...not just any info but some about what is abnned at raves and where ecstacy is made... my email is maggiemaxima@hotmail.com

I checked 'once', but it was twice, long ago. I loved it for all the increased emotional connectivity, but there was a creepy feeling like my hair was made of prickly fish bone that happened everytime a smoked a cigarette for the next week. I decided, even before the studies became public, that it was not a healthy drug, and I never intend to do it again. If it were healthy and legal, I might though.

In the 80's, it was made by independent chemists out in the middle of nowhere posing as shampoo manufacturers to buy chemicals. It was a dangerous process with the risk of being blown to bits. Quality control was in the hands of anonymous people with little life left to lose just trying to make a last buck. Things may be different now that it's a larger established industry. If one could get it from Sandoz Labs or something, I'm sure it'd be safer.

Nah, impossible. Their daughter died of an overdose of something which was SOLD as ecstasy. The LD-50 for MDMA is extremely high.

It's also possible she had an allergic reaction or a medical complication (e.g. heart attack). This isn't an "overdose," as it didn't really result from taking too high of a dose.

Only for about a year... Got alittle expensive, so i dropped it.

Whatever. The point is it was drummed into me not to take cstasy - whether that be ecstasy in pure form or mixed with crap.

She died because she drank large volumes of water (she was dancing) after taking the ecstacy.

Oh that girl in Colorado. I remember that story. She drank enough water to essentially drown herself.

I don't really know the details. I imagine that is possible, in which case it should be termed a 'water overdose'. :)

This was a girl from the UK - I'd imagine that you could have a similar cause of death.

OIC. That case I was speaking made some of the cable news networks Stateside. One of the side-effects of X is that it makes you think you're always thirsty.

No

bad yes options. yes, more than once, probably won't do it again.

I loved it a little too much, I think.