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Should New Line Cinema and Director Peter Jackson change the title of the 2nd Lord of the Rings film, The Two Towers?

There is a petition floating around on http://www.petitiononline.com by someone who wants the title changed because s/he believes the title is an 'obvious' reference to the terrorist attacks of last September.

Those who disagree point out that the title The Two Towers comes from J.R.R. Tolkien's book, which was written in 1955.

New Line Cinema, the company that distributes the Lord of the Rings Trilogy, says the title WON'T be changed.

Although the original petition seems to have been removed, here is a link to a counter-petition. http://www.petitiononline.com/lotr2/petition.html



VotesAnswer
0Yes, for the reason given above
34No, for the other reason given above
0Yes, but for another reason
12No, but for another reason
6I don't care
3Other:

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Enheduanna Survey Central Subscriber
posted 15-May-2002 10:48pm  
Changing the name of the movie would be asinine.
mandy
posted 15-May-2002 11:06pm  
absurd!
Frostbrand Silver Star Survey Creator
posted 15-May-2002 11:08pm  
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!

Really, some people are just so fudging hypersensitive.
natsim
(reply to Enheduanna) posted 16-May-2002 2:36am  
asinine? Now, is that a word that's been used here before?  * wink *
kaleb777 Bronze Star Survey Creator
posted 16-May-2002 4:06am  
Of course not. Maybe the WTC should no longer be referred to as the twin towers since Tolkein wrote his book a long time before these buildings were built.
freebird_old
posted 16-May-2002 7:44am  
Knowing it came from a book written so long ago, and having no reference to the attacks in September, I think it would be silly to change the title.
grmbrand
posted 16-May-2002 7:48am  
No. Though it already happens, I strongly disagree with those who would bend established literature to the popular sensitivities.
Dino
posted 16-May-2002 7:49am  
Just leave the gosh darn title alone. How dare these wankers think they have the monopoly on pain and suffering.

The book was written before the event. Who knows maybe the book inspired the buildings in the first place.

confetti
posted 16-May-2002 1:35pm  
Sometimes I just feel like giving intellectually inept people the finger.
I realize "her" intentions are good, like the intentions of the people in charge of images of the twin towers being digitally erased from recent releases and movie scripts being rewritten to excruciating blandness in view of the most recent proof that God really is smoking crack. But I don't agree with them. I'll never condone a movie about September 11th, just like I've never and will never condone a movie about Pearl Harbor, D-Day or anything else. But in a medium already so sugar-coated as film I don't see any need to sugar-coat it any more by pretending stuff never happened. And especially, being that The Two Towers' title refers to the Orthanc and the other tower, the name of which I've forgotten and proves I'm a rather lousy Tolkienite at this moment, goes to show that that is one of the dumbest requests ever made...
Biggles Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
posted 16-May-2002 1:35pm  
No, because that would be silly.
roozle
posted 16-May-2002 4:52pm  
stick with the original book.
dora
posted 16-May-2002 5:30pm  
No for the reason given above.No because all this banning everything that could suggest the last September tragedy is downright stupid.That's not respect,looks more like a way of shutting down your eyes.The real respect is memory,not forgetting.
Okay maybe they do no want to mix serious matters with entertainment,but it's pretty stupid too.
mandy
(reply to Dino) posted 16-May-2002 8:15pm  
Every time you type the word *wanker* I'm gonna touch myself!
 * raspberry *
Zang
posted 16-May-2002 9:17pm  
I'm sorry...What's the connection?  * wry smile *
darkshadowsseeker
posted 16-May-2002 9:49pm  
No, because I think the so-called petition to change the title is no more than another internet hoax and that the people who created or signed petitions to stop the alleged name change have been had!
cody
posted 16-May-2002 10:28pm  
"Should" as in, do they have a moral obligation to?
No.
"Should" as in, is it in their best interest to?
No.

It's safe to assume that the people who want the title changed have minds which are controlled by emotional rather than logical centers. There are advantages and disadvantages to that. However, not even having the logical power to know better than to 'fight' for a cause like that represents pure mal-adaptivity.
Dino
(reply to mandy) posted 17-May-2002 4:18am  
wanker wanker wanker *grabs cybercam* wanker wanker *unbuttons trousers and unzips* wanker wanker wanker *releases boxer shorts* wanker wanker wanker...................
dlp34
posted 17-May-2002 10:29am  
It's not a made-up title. It's the title of the book that's been around forever.
Gamera
posted 17-May-2002 11:52am  
No. I think the title makes it all the more poignant. The Lord of the Rings was written by a man who had suffered as a foot-soldier through WWI and finished during WWII (written between approx. 1940 and 1952). It is a story of a war-torn world- the Last Alliance of the races, the gigantic armies and battles, all came from his experience and are woven into a terrific epic story. It's a fantasy story based in horrors of real-life conflicts. The parallels between the worlds in which the powers within the Two Towers of Orthanc and Barad-dur join forces to control the free peoples, and some of the actions going on in our own world are worth discussing, not hiding from.
mandy
(reply to Dino) posted 17-May-2002 11:55am  
Oh, you are my favorite!
 * grin *
bobofwestgate
posted 18-May-2002 1:58am  
Why the hell would anybody think there is a relationship between Tolkien's classic work and the Twin Towers? Anybody who thinks that there is has more serious problems than just wanting to change a movie title from a book written in the 50's. The Twin Towers hadn't even been constructed when The Two Towers was published.
phi
posted 21-May-2002 5:23pm  
I think that the petition in question was a hoax and that the survey creator has been had.
Frostbrand Silver Star Survey Creator
posted 21-May-2002 8:08pm  
Well phi you are WRONG! You and kate are wrong. I have seen the (now former) petition and so has my Mom.
Biggles Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
(reply to Frostbrand) posted 23-May-2002 5:13pm  
The petition may have been created as a hoax.
Frostbrand Silver Star Survey Creator
(reply to Biggles) posted 23-May-2002 6:11pm  
You American Apologist!  * wink * Of course you'd assume that no American, the same people who think the Brits are retarded for spelling it 'theatre' instead of 'theater,' could POSSIBLY be that stupid to think the Two Towers is a WTC reference.



Just in case the wink didn't give it away, that statement was typed with tounge planted frimly in cheek.
Biggles Silver Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
(reply to Frostbrand) posted 24-May-2002 3:49pm  
 * laughing out loud *  * smile *
nasale
posted 27-May-2002 11:21pm  
Ain't it funny what kind of things people seem to argue over? Does it really matter?
southernyankee Bronze Star Survey Creator
posted 10-Jun-2002 2:26pm  
hel no. Might as well keep doging about the band Anthrax.

And how about that album "bleed American" and "speed kills". Whats up with all those bands changing their names. Have they got no intergrity.
sunshine
posted 12-Jun-2002 10:26pm  
Some people are just to F***ing sensitive and need to get on with their lives and quit bothering the rest of us.
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