| User | Comment |
|---|
Frostbrand  | | posted 18-Apr-2002 3:45pm |
This has never really been an issue for me. I come from a LONG line of Ultra-Liberals. Going back along the family tree, I find that early American abolishinists (anti-slavery people) as far back as before the Revolution! For hundred and hundreds of years, The Jollys (who later became The Webbers) have been anti-establishment, and into the Underground. |
| grmbrand | | posted 18-Apr-2002 3:49pm |
My mom is very cool about homosexuality; my dad is -really- uncomfortable with the concept. I had enough exposure to same-sex couples in college that I don't really give it a second thought. |
| Amanda | | posted 18-Apr-2002 3:58pm |
My parents are both straight. They both feel that homosexuals are going agianst nature and God, but they don't hate homosexuals and my Mom has friends who are lesbians. They may think it's wrong, but they don't talk down to homosexuals or anything like that. They keep their opinions to themselves, unless someone asks. I feel that homosexuality is okay. I honestly do not care what anybody does sexually, as long as they aren't harming children or animals or raping people or something like that. |
| dora | | posted 18-Apr-2002 4:08pm |
I picked number one,but maybe I cheat a bit,since my mother had a few female partners.I wouldn't define her bisexual,because she never fell for another woman in the same way she did with men,she never had a story with a girl that lasted long,or loved her deeply.She is a borderline bisexual or someone who just likes to experiment,don't know.But anyway I guess that her behaviour made me very open about it.My father isn't a homophobic (or whatever you want to call that Joe  ),but not as open as my mother.Anyway my mom feelings toward issues regarding homosexuality are mixed: she thinks that same sex marriage is right,but not adoption.She thinks that just a" regular" couple can support and educate a child.I feel (don't say think because is a something I can't provide a reason for) that two women can adopt a child,but not two men.I don't know,I just don't like the thought,maybe if I was man I would think differently. |
| confetti | | posted 18-Apr-2002 4:38pm |
My mother is my remaining living parent, and she doesn't disapprove of homosexuality. Neither did my dad. I don't. Even if they did disapprove, I still wouldn't. Hell, I might be bisexual myself. |
Zang  | | posted 18-Apr-2002 5:11pm |
I picked the first option "no one disapproves", but that isn't completely accurate. I don't recall ever hearing my father state an opinion on the topic, so I'm assuming that he is more or less in agreement with my mother, who has stated her opinion on many occasions. She isn't opposed to it on a personal level, but she is opposed to gay pride marches and gays in the clergy.
I believe that homosexual behavior is immoral/sinful...whatever, but no more so than any other kind of fornication. I, for one, have never engaged in any sex act that wasn't fornication, so it isn't like I'm being sanctimonious about it or anything. I'm just stating my beliefs. I think that greed is way more sinful than fornication, lots of things are... |
| Zang | | (reply to dora) posted 18-Apr-2002 5:14pm |
I know exactly what you mean. I think it should be okay for two men to adopt a baby but not two women. I don't know why, it just doesn't seem right to me... |
| Zang | | posted 18-Apr-2002 5:22pm |
...just kidding! I wanted to see how that would look. I also thought that the juxtaposition would be interesting...When you take statements like that and turn them around, it often reveals a hidden subtext. My reaction was that the statement is very sexist. "Women are nurturing.", "Gay men are paedophiles.", "Lesbians are monogamous.", "Gay men are promiscuous." Negative stereotypes... |
| juliw | | posted 18-Apr-2002 5:37pm |
My parents, my sister, and I are all heterosexual. None of us cares what anyone else's sexual preferences are. As long as no women hit on ME. |
| teatree | | posted 18-Apr-2002 7:24pm |
Sex wasn't discussed in my household and I doubt my grandmother was even familiar with the term homosexuality, let alone wanting to discuss anything remotely sexual. |
| kirst | | posted 18-Apr-2002 7:35pm |
My dad is heterosexual. I don't think he disapproves of homosexuality, but he is uncomfortable about the idea of it. My mom is a lesbian. Obviously, she approves with homosexuality. |
| mandy | | posted 18-Apr-2002 8:00pm |
My mother doesn't disapprove.
My father did disapprove before he died a slow painful death *raises an eyebrow*
I do not disapprove.
I am bisexual.
|
| mandy | | (reply to icurok) posted 18-Apr-2002 8:03pm |
This survey was brilliantly done! |
Galomorro  | | posted 18-Apr-2002 8:27pm |
My dad would never have even thought of such a thing; he was deceased in 1964. It was something unheard of in his time. My mom, however, was willing to accept my gayness; I have always thought she would've been gay herself had society's attitudes toward gayness been as tolerant as they now are (just a feeling on my part considering her abhorrence toward hetero sex with my dad); she died in 1980. |
| MysteryAngel | | posted 18-Apr-2002 9:38pm |
My birthgiver mother is a homophobic, my spermdoner dad i dont know, my step-dad, i dont know
Now to get to my legal gaurdians....my.. ummm.. female guardian is bisexual while the male is straight.
|
| MysteryAngel | | (reply to mandy) posted 18-Apr-2002 9:40pm |
if you dont mind my asking, mandy, how did your father die??? i am simply curious.... |
| freebird_old | | posted 18-Apr-2002 11:12pm |
My Dad is a conservative Republican and my Mom really only cares about issues that directly affect her. I say love is love; who cares if it's with someone of your own sex or of the opposite sex. And at first I just came to this site out of boredom and curiosity, but now I find myself checking it often because I love everyone's different opinions and how open minded and kind everyone seems. The answers on this survey are a prime example of this. The overall tone is very welcoming. Thank you all! |
| mimind | | posted 19-Apr-2002 12:30am |
my father was gay. i lived with him and his lover for a couple of years as a teenager, and later held his hand as he died of aids. i have some strong feelings about homosexuality. i happen to believe that for the most part people use the lifestyle as an excuse to act however they please. i think if poeple are truly "born gay" then they should just go ahead and get a sex change.
for some reason this seems to apply more to men than women...guess im a product of my environment. |
| mandy |
Cancer ultimately.
He lost his leg first to diabetes, and then was diagnosed with cancer after that, over the course of about two or three years got steadily worse, I think there might have been a heart problem?...I'm not sure of the timing and the details...during his illness and subsequent decline we were estranged.
We had been close and talked frequently on the phone before I told him I was leaving my husband for a woman. He wrote me a letter and basically told me I was an abomination to God and that he was sad because he thought I wasn't going to go to heaven because of my choice and he wanted me to be in heaven with him. Then the calls stopped and the letters. He basically turned his back on me. I hated him for that. He withdrew his love. He rejected me. I burned the only bible I owned in the woodstove the day I got that letter and threw the letter in after it.
Anyway, I've blocked a lot out and I was not there to nurse him or watch him fail. My Stepmother and Sister and Aunties etc...cared for him. He did call me finally, toward the end and he told me he loved me. Dying. Afraid maybe...some motivation.
I didn't go to the funeral.
One of my sister's middle names is Angel....as was his mother's. |
| Dino | | posted 19-Apr-2002 8:13am |
My parent(s) are heterosexual. Neither disapproves of homosexuality. I do not disapprove of homosexuality.
My Mum used to go drinking in an underground gay bar in the 70's with her brother (my Uncle). My dad and his girlfriend came out with me once to a gay bar after I came out. |
| Oscar | | posted 19-Apr-2002 11:08am |
Both my parents are heterosexual and both strongly oppose it...so do I. |
| MysteryAngel | | (reply to mandy) posted 19-Apr-2002 11:21am |
on no.. i send my condolences.. that is a horrible way to die, and to do that to you! |
| icurok | | (reply to mandy) posted 19-Apr-2002 12:28pm |
* in response to your "This survey was brilliantly done!" comment*
Thanks mandy. I was worried that people might think this was a subject that had been done to death, but I felt I had an interesting angle on it. And perfectionist that I am, I'm still not completely happy with it, but I think it gets across what I was trying to do. |
| icurok | | posted 19-Apr-2002 12:34pm |
Both my parents are heterosexual. Neither disapprove of homosexuality. I do not disapprove of homosexuality. In fact I can't think of anyone I currently socialise with that has a problem with homosexuality. I probably wouldn't want to socialise with them if they did. I get very uncomfortable around people with racist, sexist or anti-gay views.
My nan however, talks about gay people in hushed tones. Its still a big taboo for her and she whispers in that Les Dawson-esque way that Northern old age women do when you so much as mention Michael Barrymore. |
| mandy | | (reply to icurok) posted 19-Apr-2002 1:35pm |
Difficult to convey properly and yet...you did it!!!!  *sniffs your brain* Nice! |
| mandy |
|
| ASexyBabe | | posted 19-Apr-2002 1:48pm |
there is no option for me!!!!!!!!  My parents are hetero and I do not know what views they have on the subject and I am try-sexual (will try anything once) |
| icurok | | (reply to ASexyBabe) posted 19-Apr-2002 2:20pm |
Yes there is an option for you ASB. You can thank kate for it because she specifically suggested it. "I am unaware of either the sexuality of my parent(s), or their feelings about homosexuality" This is your option, because you don't know how your parents feel about homosexuality and therefore the link between their views and yours cannot be measured (which is the purpose of this survey). So why did you have to vote yet another of my surveys bad |
| ASexyBabe | | (reply to icurok) posted 19-Apr-2002 2:25pm |
But icurok, I am aware of my parents sexuality |
| Biggles | | posted 19-Apr-2002 2:48pm |
I wouldn't say my parents are disapproving about homosexuality. But they would be disappointed if any of us were gay (my mum actually said this). I'm comfortable with homosexuality because I am exposed to it at school and online on a daily basis - it seems completely natural to me |
| Zang | | (reply to ASexyBabe) posted 19-Apr-2002 5:57pm |
Read the option again. It says: "I am unaware of EITHER the sexuality of my parent(s), OR their feelings about homosexuality" (emphasis mine) I don't know what more you could want, perhaps an option for: "This option is exclusively for the use of ASexyBabe." |
| Zang | | (reply to Galomorro) posted 19-Apr-2002 6:02pm |
You seem to have a very interesting concept of what life was like prior to 1964. I'd be delighted if you explained further. What else was unheard of back then? (Aside from the obvious technological advances.) |
| ASexyBabe | | (reply to Zang) posted 19-Apr-2002 7:00pm |
**sticks tongue out and spits**  |
| Galomorro | | (reply to Zang) posted 19-Apr-2002 9:20pm |
Well, my dad used to yell at me, "Turn down that N---- music" (he used the N-word). I was a folk blues/R&B fan when I was a kid (Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf, etc.) My mom was a little more "modern" -- that is, willing to accept things that weren't around when she was growing up, like my becoming a Buddhist in the late '60s, for example. Radio music was very monotonous -- the DJs all played the "Top 40" and had a very restricted playlist. When MTV first appeared on the scene, I thought IT had a very restricted playlist also. Some of the DJs in the 50s and early 60s refused to play music by Black artists -- like Little Richard, one of my first music idols. Consequently my sister and I would always listen to a late-night Black DJ so as to hear R&B hits that the white DJs would not play. That's the main thing that I hated about this era since I have always liked blues music and wanted to hear more variety on radio back then. Later on in the 60s we got a little more variety on FM radio. |
| icurok | | (reply to Zang) posted 20-Apr-2002 6:29am |
I too tried and failed to explain the intricacies of EITHER/OR to ASexyBabe in the chatroom earlier. It wouldn't surprise me if she was deliberately missing the point. |
| icurok | | (reply to mandy) posted 20-Apr-2002 6:36am |
I think it might be that 'burning rubber' smell that gives my brain its distinctive odour . |
| cuteasabutton | | posted 20-Apr-2002 3:03pm |
Both my parents dissaprove, and I do not dissaprove. |
| spidertea | | posted 20-Apr-2002 6:40pm |
My mother's best friend is a lesbian.
My father is uncomfortable with it, but not really against it.
I am NOT against it. My best friend is gay. |
| Zang | | (reply to icurok) posted 21-Apr-2002 12:03pm |
I think she just likes to stir it up. |
| Zang | | (reply to Galomorro) posted 21-Apr-2002 12:06pm |
So they didn't have Buddhism before that? |
| wetboy4fun | | posted 21-Apr-2002 5:09pm |
I have had a few homosexual experiences and through them have learned that it is unhealthy on many different levels and homosexuality is simply abnormal behavior. |
romkey  |
and you call yourself 'wetboy4fun'?? are you able to distinguish between what's healthy for you and what's healthy for other people? |
| Galomorro | | (reply to Zang) posted 21-Apr-2002 7:23pm |
Yeah, sure, it existed, but usually in the old days people just kept the religion their parents had (or had in name only). Asian religions were something new and different to old-fashioned 50s and early 60s parents. As was practically everything ELSE that went on with their kids! Like the beginnings of rock'n roll, when the parents were into Perry Como, Bing Crosby or other such crooners, then they are suddenly listening to Chuck Berry and Little Richard being blasted on their kids' record players... |
| natsim | | posted 21-Apr-2002 11:59pm |
My parents are heterosexual. They used to disapprove of homosexuality, then they were unsure, now they are okay. They went through that process about 6 months after I did. I kind of dragged them through it.... |
| darkshadowsseeker | | (reply to icurok) posted 23-Apr-2002 2:46am |
Here's is a great big ((((HUG))))! I think you need it after trying to explain things to ASB. And thanks again for the option. |
| icurok |
Thankyou. I needed that . |
| darkshadowsseeker | | (reply to icurok) posted 23-Apr-2002 10:47am |
I certainly thought so and you're welcome. |
| Zang | | (reply to Galomorro) posted 25-Apr-2002 1:43am |
Hmm...Oh, I see...I'm still a little confused though. Perhaps you could clear up a couple of things for me. If what you say is true, why are we not all still following the pagan beliefs of our ancestors? And haven't all of the major religions arisen out of Asia? The only non-Asian religions I'm familiar with are those practiced by ever diminishing groups of aboriginal people. |
| Galomorro | | (reply to Zang) posted 25-Apr-2002 9:37am |
Because many people did/do not know anything about their pagan ancestors' religions. They are conservative folks who want to follow, at least in name only, the beliefs they have been brought up with, in more modern times, as in the 20th century. Ancient religions are WAY too far back for many people to understand. These days many people are studying more of these early religions and beliefs, but my own parents knew of nothing outside of their own and their parents' Christian beliefs and practices, and were resistant to change. Asian religions were exotic and strange to them -- they knew practically nothing about them, nor did they care to learn. Back then also there weren't anywhere near the types of ethnic foods that we today find even in our common supermarkets; my parents had never heard of wasabi, say, or many other Asian, etc. foods that we today take for granted. They'd never heard of a Middle Eastern tagine, for instance, and my non-Middle Eastern neighbor just bought one for his cookware collection. As Bob Dylan used to sing, "The Times they are a'changin'" and my parents were, back then, resistant to new religions, new foods, new music, etc. People today are more "worldly." |
| ASexyBabesToy | | (reply to ASexyBabe) posted 25-Apr-2002 2:20pm |
You're sexy when you spit. |
| ASexyBabe |
so are you  |
| ASexyBabesToy | | (reply to ASexyBabe) posted 25-Apr-2002 3:04pm |
**spits** |
| ASexyBabe |
hey i caught it!!!! yum yum  |
| ASexyBabesToy | | (reply to ASexyBabe) posted 25-Apr-2002 3:06pm |
**spit,spit,spit,spit** |
| ASexyBabe |
lol |
| Zang | | (reply to Galomorro) posted 25-Apr-2002 5:47pm |
Oh! So we're just talking about the early 20th Century. I thought we were talking about the time prior to 1964 in general...
I still don't understand the distinction between Asian religions and Christianity. Isn't Christianity an Asian religion? |
| Galomorro | | (reply to Zang) posted 25-Apr-2002 8:04pm |
Well, you know --my parents were influenced by their parents and their parents' parents. Christianity was not an "Asian" religion to my parents; to them, "Asian" was something distinctly Chinese, Japanese, etc., something rather "mysterious" and "foreign" to people in the '50s. The Beats got into Buddhism back then but I doubt if my parents paid any attention to the likes of them. I wanted to be a "beatnik" when I was a kid though. |
| Zang | | (reply to Galomorro) posted 26-Apr-2002 4:37pm |
So what do you suppose your parents thought in terms of the origins of Christianity? That it was something that began in North America or Europe? I'm really trying to get a grip on this... |
| Galomorro | | (reply to Zang) posted 26-Apr-2002 8:29pm |
IF they thought anything about it at all. I really have no idea if they knew anything about the geography of the land where Christianity started. Sorry, but they never indicated anything like this and I would assume, if pressed, that they just didn't think about it at all. I never communicated much with my parents so I'm probably not a good source to ask... I never asked THEM anything about this myself. Surely they didn't think it began in N. America though! I'd think most people'd just say part of the region that we call the "Middle East" today. |
| ParyAnimal | | posted 27-Apr-2002 12:22pm |
Male homsexuals are gross, but not female homosexuals. They are nice. I just want to do a bellyflop in an orgy of female homosexuals! |
| anonymous | | posted 27-Apr-2002 5:22pm |
Eww... |
| Locutus |
How are male homosexuals gross? Except for the fact that they are gay, they are just like everyone else. |
| skylark |
I guess my father does... a little. My mother doesn't disapprove of it. I don't. |
