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If a person pushes a pregnant woman down the steps in an attempt to kill the fetus, what should the person be charged with if they are successful?




 

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Biggles Bronze Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
posted 2-Mar-2002 1:40pm  
It depends how old the foetus is.
LindaH Survey Central Gold Subscriber Bronze Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
posted 2-Mar-2002 1:50pm  
Murder
Enheduanna Survey Central Subscriber
posted 2-Mar-2002 1:59pm  
It depends on how old the fetus is. And whether they also kill the pregnant woman.
SueBee Survey Central Subscriber
posted 2-Mar-2002 2:03pm  
If it were up to me, he'd be pushed down the Spanish Steps.
juliw
posted 2-Mar-2002 2:24pm  
They should be charged with murder with malice aforethought, and with assault.
juliw
(reply to SueBee) posted 2-Mar-2002 2:25pm  
I'm with you!
mandy Gold Qualifier
posted 2-Mar-2002 3:05pm  
Charged with killing a fetus?
mandy Gold Qualifier
(reply to SueBee) posted 2-Mar-2002 3:06pm  
You are such a brutal dog!

 * grin *
Come here........
ASexyBabesToy
posted 2-Mar-2002 3:21pm  
Murder
autumnlight
posted 2-Mar-2002 3:51pm  
I don't know. I believe that a foetus is not a person, it is just a collection of cells, but that it has potential to be a life. Therefore if a person kills a foetus, they are knowingly killing something thay could live, which means that a charge should be made for unlawful abortion or something like that.
Frostbrand
posted 2-Mar-2002 4:14pm  
See my comment in Advanced Stats.
confetti
posted 2-Mar-2002 4:54pm  
He or she should be charged with murder. Should he be subjected to death penalty? No. Should he be in prison for life? No. What shall we do with him? The humanic thing. Put him in a mental institution where he can be treated like a person.
ASexyBabe
posted 2-Mar-2002 5:14pm  
where are the options?
mandy Gold Qualifier
(reply to ASexyBabe) posted 2-Mar-2002 5:18pm  
up a monkeeeeees butt!
Dino
posted 2-Mar-2002 7:08pm  
Er...I don't know. I think murder is a bit too strong though. Definatley jail though. For about the same length as you would get for attempted murder.
darkshadowsseeker
posted 2-Mar-2002 8:52pm  
If the fetus was old enough to be viable, then murder.
ASexyBabe
(reply to mandy) posted 2-Mar-2002 10:09pm  
ewwwwwww ok they can stay there!!! lol
Gamera
posted 3-Mar-2002 2:42am  
Maybe there should be a crime that is considered more severe than killing a pet, but less severe than killing a human. Then the crime would be either pre-meditated or attempted fetusicide
Strider Survey Central Gold Subscriber Bronze Star Survey Creator Gold Qualifier
posted 3-Mar-2002 2:43am  
murder
Amanda
posted 3-Mar-2002 3:42am  
Assault for pushing the woman down the stairs. Nothing for killing the fetus.
Cain
posted 3-Mar-2002 10:46am  
Murder?
I don't know - in the eyes of the law is a foetus a human life?
Oscar
posted 3-Mar-2002 12:07pm  
Murder.
My dad did this to my mom, but was never charged.
Zang
posted 3-Mar-2002 4:09pm  
Assault at the minimum. I guess anything else would depend on other factors. Jurisdiction, relationship to the pregnant woman, what charges the pregnant woman wishes to file if any...
natsim
posted 3-Mar-2002 7:15pm  
I assume this is being asked with regard to a US court of law, in which case, I have absolutely no idea what they should be charged with. There must be a precedent for it..... I don't know.
HareKrishna
posted 3-Mar-2002 9:25pm  
Murder.
RayB
(reply to Amanda) posted 3-Mar-2002 10:29pm  
Nothing for killing the fetus? Well, if nothing really happens to the pusher, what would keep fathers everywhere from doing something similar to keep from having to pay years of child support?

My wife is pregnant now. We have nine more weeks. There is no question it is a human life.
LindaH Survey Central Gold Subscriber Bronze Star Survey Creator Survey Qualifier
(reply to RayB) posted 3-Mar-2002 11:32pm  
Oh yay! I love babies. They are so cute.  * smile * Mine will be 1 on the 18th. Do you know if it's a boy or a girl? Is this your first one?
RayB
(reply to LindaH) posted 4-Mar-2002 1:45pm  
Yes, this will be our first. It is a little girl. Her name is Rachel. My wife and I are very excited. What is so funny is when I put my mouth to my wife's stomach and sing, she really get moving around.
dora
posted 4-Mar-2002 2:40pm  
Depends on how old is the fetus.If it's under 4 months I guess it could be lesions on the mother, if it's older it's murder.
dora
posted 4-Mar-2002 2:44pm  
Maybe I'm too harsh...if the fetus could survive by itself (herself,himself  * wink * )which I believe could be done at about 5 or 6 months it's a human being then it's murder.If it's younger is assault on the mother.
Jemmy
posted 4-Mar-2002 3:52pm  
It depends on if it was planned, etc.
Amanda
(reply to RayB) posted 4-Mar-2002 11:28pm  
After reading some of the other responses, I would agree that the person should be charged with unlawful abortion (as someone mentioned). I do not believe the charge should be murder. I personally do not believe a fetus is an actual person until birth.
RayB
(reply to Amanda) posted 5-Mar-2002 10:07am  
Well, I don't agree and if you were expecting and someone killed your baby you would feel differently.

Unlawful abortion? What would be the penalty? $30 fine?
Amanda
(reply to RayB) posted 5-Mar-2002 11:24pm  
That's fine if you don't agree. That's why it's called your opinion. We all have different opinions and just as you have yours, I also have mine.

It is true that if I were the pregnant lady, I might feel differently. But, since I've never been pushed down stairs while being pregnant, I would not know. So, therefore, I had to answer the question by the way I feel about that situation now.

I have had a healthy son, who is now 2 1/2. I have also had an abortion and a miscarriage. Yes, I was sad after I had the abortion and after I had the miscarriage. I was sad about what COULD have been. But, I never felt as if I had lost a living child. I had lost a fetus, which is something completely different.
anonymous
posted 5-Mar-2002 11:26pm  
no
RayB
(reply to Amanda) posted 6-Mar-2002 9:59am  
Congrads on your son! I am sorry about your miscarriage. It must have been hard. I couldn't imagine.

I don't agree with abortion. I don't see much difference between killing it before it is out of the woman's body and throwing it in the garbage and throwing it in the garbage a week after birth.
Lex
posted 6-Mar-2002 10:33am  
Dont know.. its not quite attempted murder, then again its a very serious offence. the law usually has something they can use in situations like this.
Amanda
(reply to RayB) posted 7-Mar-2002 12:13am  
I understand that there are a lot of people that are against abortion. That's fine with me. I just think some people take their views about abortion to the extremes. In some situations, such as the one I was in, there's not a lot of other choice but to have an abortion.

Thanks for the congrats on my son. He's a handful, but I love him more than life itself!

Locutus
posted 7-Mar-2002 10:24am  
Assault (for pushing the woman) and destruction of private property (for killing the fetus if the fetus can't live outside tho womb) or manslaughter (if the fetus could live outside the womb)
RayB
(reply to Amanda) posted 7-Mar-2002 10:41am  
As far as my view on abortion, I would think you would think it to be extreme, and wish there wasn't abortion. The real problem, to me, is why all the abortions? Regardless if abortion was right or wrong, isn't there a problem if so many are having them? Maybe we all need to exercise more contstraint. Abortion should not be considered a method of birth control. I know one girl that has had three and all three pregnancies were by different men she had casual relationships with.
Amanda
(reply to RayB) posted 7-Mar-2002 7:43pm  
In the case of rape, incest, or something similar I agree with abortion 100%. Maybe they should limit abortions to one, if the case is unplanned pregnancy. No, I do not see it as a method of birth control. I strongly believe that you should think about anything and everything that could result BEFORE you have sex. But, sometimes, things do come up and it is best that the child is aborted.
RayB
(reply to Amanda) posted 8-Mar-2002 2:20pm  
I think we agree on more than what I thought at first. I just do not believe abortion is wrong under any circumstances but if my wife got raped, or her life was in danger if she went to term, I may be put in a position to make a decision that was not consistent with my own moral stands.
Amanda
(reply to RayB) posted 8-Mar-2002 10:27pm  
I don't think you can ever say you would NEVER do something. Things come up in life where we have to put our morals and/or beliefs aside. Although, we do not completely agree, I think we do agree on some of it.

I think that if you get pregnant and realize that you will never be able to care for your child properly or if you get pregnant by a guy that turns out to be a totally different person than you first though, that abortion is sometimes the best answer. A lot of people would disagree with me and say that adoption would be better. But, I believe, that for some people, adoption would be worse. Knowing you have a child out there in the world somewhere, wondering for years if he/she is okay would be torture. My sister-in-law gave her son up for adoption when she was 15. Her parents basically forced her to. Anyway, she has never had a day of peace since then.
kirsty
posted 25-Mar-2002 5:23am  
murder
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