| User | Comment |
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| anonymous | | posted 17-Feb-2002 8:38pm |
Yes, and I consider myself Bi-Sexual. |
Frostbrand  | | posted 17-Feb-2002 8:48pm |
My best friend is Bi, so no. |
| TylersMamma | | posted 17-Feb-2002 8:52pm |
Not at all. Everyone has the right to be whom ever they want... regardless of sexual preference. |
| JoeSchmoe2003 | | posted 17-Feb-2002 9:00pm |
I'm sure everyone already knows my view on homosexuality. I am against it and consider it immoral. |
| confetti | | posted 17-Feb-2002 9:05pm |
Any consensual relationship that involves older teenagers or adults where there is great love and understanding can never be immoral. I don't consider anything except violence and prejudice to be sinful. So there you have it. |
| confetti |
Ah, yes...just racking up those popularity points, aintcha? |
| anonymous | | (reply to confetti) posted 17-Feb-2002 9:10pm |
It really has nothing to do with popularity- As I said, I am Bi and I think it is sinful. I don't think that I should be, but I am. |
| mandy | | posted 17-Feb-2002 9:16pm |
No and I'm bisexual. |
| JoeSchmoe2003 | | (reply to confetti) posted 17-Feb-2002 9:29pm |
Yes, I am. I don't care what people think about me, and that's why I've become so famous at school that all 2000 people know me. |
| jkiehart | | posted 17-Feb-2002 9:30pm |
Nope. |
| mrsbbear | | posted 17-Feb-2002 9:35pm |
Not immoral because I have met people who really didn't seem to have any choice in the matter, it just seemed they were wired differently. However, I think it is overglamourized and there are many kids who get into it as a way to make themselves special and get noticed, and that is dumb. |
| mrsbbear |
And I respect and appreciate your opinion, even if no one else does.
I am not pro-gay, and I think it is a politicized issue that is overhyped and overrated, but at the same time, I wouldn't persecute someone just because they were gay. I also scoff at the notion which Hollywood seems to support, that suddenly practically everyone is gay. I think it happens by nature sometimes, but not nearly as frequently as recent hype suggests. |
jettles   | | posted 17-Feb-2002 10:03pm |
no, i don't because it isn't! |
| JoeSchmoe2003 | | (reply to mrsbbear) posted 17-Feb-2002 10:08pm |
You are correct there. Everyone makes too much about gay rights and other stuff involving gays, and I think we shouldn't act like gay is normal. |
| anonymous | | posted 17-Feb-2002 10:21pm |
Yes, and I'm beginning to think I may be bi.  |
| jettles | | (reply to mrsbbear) posted 17-Feb-2002 10:24pm |
overhyped and overrated? just because it happens to get some mention and is seen at times. homosexuality is politicized because we simply want to have the same lives that heterosexuals do. we simply want to live our lives as human beings. i don't see that as hype or overrated!!
do you worry about kissing your husband or boyfriend goodbye, or about giving their hand a squeeze or touching his arm in public? do you worry that someone might ask you to leave a restaurant or resort because you aren't the "right" type for the place? have you ever been fired from a job because of who you happen to sleep with in the privacy of your own home? have you ever been harassed or beaten for that same reason? overhyped? i think not!!!
we are approx. 10% of the population, always have been.....
if you think that children are gay or lesbian due to the "glamour" then you should spend some time with "out" gay and lesbian youth..... they, many times, are harassed and are outcast. i volunteer with gltbq youth and they aren't there for the glamour.
if it were true that you "become" what you see on tv and in hollywood then i would be heterosexual......... that is all i saw and was told to be as a child and teenager. |
| anonymous | | posted 17-Feb-2002 10:40pm |
If people wouldn't make an issue out of it when they decide who to fire or rent to or whatever, then gays would have no need to make an issue of it on TV and in the political arena. That same thing can be said for race. If people weren't unfairly biased, no one would have anything to fight about. If you want minorities to give up the fight, then you should give up the unfairness. |
| ASexyBabe | | posted 17-Feb-2002 11:12pm |
no |
| heyzeus1 | | posted 18-Feb-2002 12:10am |
i can only choose between immoral and sinful? |
| JoeSchmoe2003 | | (reply to jettles) posted 18-Feb-2002 12:13am |
10% is too high. That would mean in my school of 2,000 students, 200 would be gay! However, I haven't met any gay people in my school yet, and 200 seems like a lot of people to be gay. I'd say less than 5% of the population is gay. There is no way 10% can be. If it really is 10%, show me proof of your claims. |
SueBee  | | posted 18-Feb-2002 12:56am |
Certainly not. |
| SueBee | | (reply to jettles) posted 18-Feb-2002 1:03am |
Thank you for making those points. I'm just too tired to get into this right now, so I'm glad you already covered it!  |
| Zang | | posted 18-Feb-2002 1:59am |
Yeah sure, but that's not saying much. I consider just about everything to be immoral and sinful to some degree. It isn't like homosexuals have a monopoly or anything. I can honestly say that I have never personally engaged in any sex act that wasn't immoral and sinful. So, what are you going to do? Huh? |
| Frostbrand |
She meant 10% of the WORLD'S population dickless! |
| Frostbrand |
She meant 10% of the WORLD'S population dickless! |
| mandy |
Joe...your love for me has driven you to this, hasn't it?...this hatred and name calling.....
Your secret sinful lusty love for a woman you'll never have....a woman who you wish would hold your hand and call you "bunnymuffin" and wipe the Cheeto residue from your fingertips.
What ever happened to the Joe I used to know?...That sweet , dim bulb...happy to make surveys even if they were really bad?...Where did you go Joe?...I don't even know you anymore.
*sob* |
| jettles |
10% is not too high, and although you may have not met them doesn't mean they aren't there. i stand by my 10%!! you can argue it but i will stand by it. |
| jettles | | (reply to SueBee) posted 18-Feb-2002 6:01am |
you are welcome, i know you would have if you weren't worn out....... go to sleep my dear!!!! |
| jettles | | (reply to mandy) posted 18-Feb-2002 6:02am |
it's sad when your old friends just aren't who you thought they were....... lol |
| jettles |
thanks brian! |
| Cain | | posted 18-Feb-2002 7:54am |
No, and I'm bisexual. |
| Dino | | posted 18-Feb-2002 8:59am |
No I do not consider homosexuality itself immoral or 'sinful'. I do have views about behaviours being immoral and 'sinful' however. And I know lots of gay people who live unwholesome lives IMHO but then sometimes I live like that too and I even consider myself immoral but I like it.  I was once on a gay chat site and someone came in and started shouting that we will all burn in hell. I said NO!, we will not burn in hell Mr., because we gay people are the devils own. He didn't really have a response to that! |
| Dino |
Sadly in your school, where people like you are considered famous - a baggy panted rap fan, there are probably lots of people who are gay but are right now afraid to come out. Many of them never will. You assume you know what a gay person looks like and acts like. You don't drink in the clubs I do mate. http://www.bearhug.net/gallery_dukes_feb.htmWe do not all wear pink-spangled crop tops! The sex researcher Kinsey actually said that only one third of the population were exclusively heterosexual! How do you feel about that? |
| ASexyBabe | | (reply to Dino) posted 18-Feb-2002 9:28am |
seems ok to me  |
| spidertea | | posted 18-Feb-2002 10:15am |
Not at all.
But I think it is immoral to discriminate homosexuals, and otherwise persecute them. |
| romkey | | posted 18-Feb-2002 10:19am |
of course not. |
| Biggles | | posted 18-Feb-2002 10:26am |
Not at all. And I chose the other option. |
| Biggles |
If I was homosexual and went to your school, I would not wave it in a famously homophobic teenager's face that I was. Maybe that's why you aren't aware of having met any gay people at your school?
I on the other hand go to a school where no-one bats an eyelid at same-sex couples cuddling up as much in the common-room as the opposite-sex couples. I think I prefer where I go to school....... |
| JoeSchmoe2003 | | (reply to Dino) posted 18-Feb-2002 10:31am |
Who or what is Kinsey? Where is your evidence? How come people just make statements but don't use evidence to back them up? And you can't just call me a baggy panted rap fan. I am a thong-wearing baggy panted rap fan! |
| JoeSchmoe2003 | | (reply to Biggles) posted 18-Feb-2002 10:33am |
Homophobe? That term makes no sense. I am not afraid of gay people. I just think what they're doing is wrong. And I would never hit someone for being gay unless they tried to do something to me. |
| Dino |
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| Enheduanna | | posted 18-Feb-2002 10:40am |
Other: no, and I'm bisexual. |
| Lex | | posted 18-Feb-2002 11:04am |
My logic and reason says that its not sinful or immoral. BUT, something tells me that I'd not want my kids to become honosexual. Its difficult to say why exactly, it just doesnt seem quite 'normal' somehow. |
| Biggles |
But you would verbally lash out at them even when they aren't trying to do something to you?
There is no difference between verbal abuse and physical abuse. They can both hurt people to the core. |
| Biggles | | (reply to Lex) posted 18-Feb-2002 11:42am |
You want your children to be like you - it's a strong evolutionary desire. Don't worry too much about it, it's not something that's horrifically wrong with you Just love your kids whether they turn out like you or not |
| Dino | | (reply to Lex) posted 18-Feb-2002 11:55am |
The worst thing about kids going growing up gay is the knowledge as a parent that they will go out into the world and have a hard time. |
| Lex | | (reply to Biggles) posted 18-Feb-2002 11:58am |
No, its a bit more than that. I'd disagree with it being taught as normal in mainstream education.
Dont get me wrong, I know many people who are like that and have no problem with them whatsoever, and treat them exactly the same as everyone else. But I do think that it should a private thing, rather than a public one. |
| Catharsis | | (reply to Biggles) posted 18-Feb-2002 12:13pm |
Do the same sex couples really do that where you go to school? Good on them I say, but if they'd done it in the places where I went to school, they wouldn't have known what hit them. Sheffield must be more of a decent place than I thought. |
| Gamera | | posted 18-Feb-2002 12:34pm |
No, and I'm bisexual. |
| romkey | | (reply to Lex) posted 18-Feb-2002 12:54pm |
So is heterosexuality then. I think homosexuality and bisexuality should be just a private as heterosexuality. |
| JoeSchmoe2003 | | (reply to Biggles) posted 18-Feb-2002 1:01pm |
Well, I'll lash out against murderers even if they aren't murdering me, so I can lash out against gay people if they aren't doing anything to me. |
| ASexyBabe |
Just cause your a schmuck!! That explains it all. Oh and by the way, It is perfectly normal to fall in love with Mandy we know you can't help it. No one can help it, she is irresistible |
| Biggles | | (reply to Lex) posted 18-Feb-2002 2:46pm |
Would you want heterosexuality to be taught in schools? |
| Biggles | | (reply to Catharsis) posted 18-Feb-2002 2:53pm |
They certainly do. We don't have any same-sex male couples in our year as far as I'm aware - all of the gay lads seem to have older boyfriends. But there are 2 same-sex female couples in my year who are very open about it and don't see any reason they shouldn't be. People are generally "out" at my school. It's not so much Sheffield as my school in particular. We have a wide mix of people so tolerance is very much taught. We have a large Muslim population and a very active Christian group. Middle-class, working class, etc. A huge number of ancestral nationalities. And so on. If lads want to come to school in skirts and make-up, that's fine - their choice. They wouldn't be sent home to chnage like they would be at some schools. You are free to express yourself as you wish (within reason). But there are schools here where students would be excluded for having mohicans (like a couple of the girls in Y11 here have just got - they're about 6" high and electric blue - amazing!!! ) |
| Biggles |
You can't equate murder with homosexuality. Even if it is immoral, surely it's only harming the people who practice it? So it's more like suicide. |
| Jemmy | | posted 18-Feb-2002 4:18pm |
No, not at all. I am heterosexual. |
| ASexyBabesToy | | (reply to mandy) posted 18-Feb-2002 5:13pm |
You're cute too. |
| JoeSchmoe2003 | | (reply to ASexyBabe) posted 18-Feb-2002 7:16pm |
Fudge you and fudge mandy also. And I have never been a schmuck and I never intend to become one. |
| JoeSchmoe2003 | | (reply to Biggles) posted 18-Feb-2002 7:18pm |
So you're saying you wouldn't try to stop someone who was committing suicide? |
| Frostbrand |
 Hey! Mandy happens to be a very good friend of mine, and I'm not just gonna site here and let you attack her like that! Take your homophobic vitrol elsewhere. We don't want it! |
| confetti |
Wow...it must be cool to be THAT famous and still go slumming around here. |
| ASexyBabe |
Then why do you keep acting like one then? |
| ASexyBabe |
You don't have to get so hostile about your romantic fantasies about mandy. You know you can't have her it must be rough. But I know you could probably get past it and be a nice person, couldnt you? |
| JoeSchmoe2003 |
Fudge you and your gay right buddies! Gay people don't need to marry, so go take your gay right ass back to Colorado! |
| mandy |
I knew this was all about fudging me...oh Joe...don't cry, honey..... |
| mandy |
*kiss* |
| SueBee |
Why are you "against" homosexuality? |
| natsim | | posted 19-Feb-2002 12:23am |
Nope. |
| Frostbrand |
No, fudge you you gay-bashing homo! |
| Lex | | (reply to Biggles) posted 19-Feb-2002 5:36am |
Yes, I would want heterosexuality to be taught. By this I dont mean sex education, but for kids to be taught family values. ie, the good side of having your own family and caring for them, the fulfilment of a long relationship etc. ie the general "be a good citizen" values. |
| ASexyBabe |
as I said before I know you can't help it if you love mandy but you will have to get over it for your own sanity she is in a loving relationship and she is twice your age it would just never work |
| Frostbrand | | (reply to ASexyBabe) posted 19-Feb-2002 9:08am |
Well as her e-brother I do have a SLIGHT issue with it, but that's just my over-protective nature.  |
| Biggles |
Not by being rude to them. |
| icurok | | (reply to Lex) posted 19-Feb-2002 1:47pm |
Why do you think having a family that you care about, being in a fulfilling long term relationship or being a good citizen are things which are sexuality-specific. Don't get me wrong, I'm in favour of all these things being taught to children in schools, but I wouldn't for a second call it "teaching kids heterosexuality". |
| Dino |
There is a saying:
You darkest fear is your most erotic nightmare!
Joe - when you see a homo I understand why you want to push them away and remove them from your world. I understand how it is important for you to believe that it does not exist in your school and is no where near you.
I know you want to lash out when you see it getting closer. I know you want to supress homosexuality.
I understand this Joe. I too have been in your sick sad world. I too have turned my back on homosexuality.
I will be keeping a close eye on you in the future Joe. Don't worry I know you well and I am on your side when it comes to believing that you do not love Mandy. I know you don't love her Joe. |
| JoeSchmoe2003 | | (reply to Dino) posted 19-Feb-2002 4:41pm |
Dino, I'm glad you realized the truth about mandy, but I am not against homosexuality because I am one myself. I am a heterosexual, and I am only against homosexuality because it is against my religion. So it has nothing to do with being gay myself, it is strictly religious beliefs. |
| anonymous |
"The purpose of Religion is to keep people AWAY from God."
-Carl Jung |
| ASexyBabesToy | | (reply to mandy) posted 19-Feb-2002 6:00pm |
**blushes** |
| JoeSchmoe2003 | | (reply to anonymous) posted 19-Feb-2002 7:09pm |
Yeah, well Carl Jung was just a big dumbass. |
| Lex | | (reply to icurok) posted 20-Feb-2002 5:10am |
many people would. Its the idealised nuclear family, mum, dad and 2.4 kids. I think its fine to teack kids that, but I wouldnt want to teach them that mum, dad and dad's boyfriend and 2.4 kids is the norm. some gay rights people would though, and I think thats wrong. |
| Dino |
Two points -
Carl G Jung is my hero.
In situations of religious moral dilemma I like the saying 'What would Jesus Do?' I think you will find that if Jesus were logging on to survey central he would be a little less uptight. I also find it sad that you blindly adopt beliefs. In my religion we are advised to question everything - even the words of the teacher himself. |
| icurok | | (reply to Lex) posted 20-Feb-2002 7:48am |
It doesn't have to be the norm for it to be acceptable. Being left handed isn't the norm. You mentioned children being taught about the benefits of a loving long term relationship, and I agree with that and would point out that a loving long term relationship can consist of a man and a woman, two men or two women. You mentioned that caring about your family is a good thing which should be encouraged, and again I agree and would point out that the ability to care about your loved ones is not related to your sexuality. You mentioned being a "good" citizen. We may all have a different opinion about what this is, although most might argue that it would include being law abiding, courteous, considerate and respectful. Again, these are social attributes which are not related to sexuality.
Then you mentioned teaching children about the idealised nuclear family of mum dad and 2.4 kids. Sorry, but this is where I disagree with you. Teaching children that this is the "ideal" family, or that it is somehow "better" than other types of family is wrong. I know heterosexual couples that have children and homosexual couples that have children. I know heterosexual couples that have chosen not to have children, and homosexual couples that do not want children. I know single parents that have brought up their children after their partner has died. I know single parents that have brought up their children after escaping an abusive relationship. I know of single parents that have brought up their children after their partner left them for someone else. There are many types of families in this world and this is not just a gay rights issue. Besides, who ever heard of having 0.4 of a child. |
Wicksy   | | posted 20-Feb-2002 12:05pm |
NO |
| Frostbrand | | (reply to icurok) posted 20-Feb-2002 1:57pm |
I think the 'Dog' is suppsoed to be the 0.4. Frankly I don't know what the Moral Majority obsessions is with Dogs. Everyone's gotta have a kid and adog to be considered a family man! There were people back in 92 who would slam Clinton ( no one mainstream, msotly chatroom losers) for having a cat! To them I say, "Fudge you! I love my kitties and I'm not gonna replace with soem dumb large co-depenent animal just to make me look like a 'family man' in your eyes!" I love cats, I don't love dogs. End of story.
End Rant Mode.
P.S.: Carl Jung IS a genius. |
| JoeSchmoe2003 | | (reply to Dino) posted 20-Feb-2002 2:35pm |
I do question everything. Stop calling me a Christian! I told you people, I believe in the Qur'an, and I don't blindly believe it either. I have proof that the Qur'an is the LITERAL word of God, not just an interpretation by humans. And when the teacher is God, why question the words of God? |
| ASexyBabe |
you believe in the book of mandy and You are so blinded by your love for her that you get upset with all of us nice folk here at SC |
| JoeSchmoe2003 | | (reply to ASexyBabe) posted 20-Feb-2002 3:41pm |
I made a survey about you. It is the one written in Japanese over in qualification. |
| ASexyBabe |
thanks for letting me know it was yours so I could HF it |
| romkey |
do you read the Qur'an in Arabic? |
| JoeSchmoe2003 | | (reply to romkey) posted 20-Feb-2002 10:06pm |
Sometimes I do, but I don't know much Arabic. |
| romkey |
why do you believe it's the literal word of God? |
| cody | | posted 21-Feb-2002 12:19am |
Not quite immoral but 'Probably not a good idea' and 'not something I'd want my kids doing'. |
| Dino |
Sorry I forgot that Christians weren't the only narrow minded people in the world.
And er...proof? *sigh* You really are a legend in your own mind. |
| JoeSchmoe2003 | | (reply to romkey) posted 21-Feb-2002 6:52pm |
Because of my proof. Go check out the forum and I provided a link there for BrianW. |
| SueBee |
So you don't believe in freedom of religion? Do you live in the USA? |
| JoeSchmoe2003 | | (reply to SueBee) posted 23-Feb-2002 3:29pm |
I do believe in freedom of religion. I live in the USA, and the Qur'an says that freedom of religion is necessary. |
| SueBee |
Then you should let me practice or not practice any religion I choose, which means that your religious beliefs should not be thrust upon me. Live and let live, Bub. |
| JoeSchmoe2003 | | (reply to SueBee) posted 23-Feb-2002 6:31pm |
Just because we have freedom of religion doesn't mean that I'm not allowed to tell you my beliefs. |
| SueBee |
You have every right to tell people your beliefs, but when you insult people because they do not adhere to your religious beliefs I think that is incredibly rude and closed-minded. |
| JoeSchmoe2003 | | (reply to SueBee) posted 24-Feb-2002 10:38am |
Well when you insult me for insulting people that just makes you rude and close-minded. |
