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| multiple | 1-Jan-2002 | politics/religion | serendipity | by votes | 67 | 13 | 62.7% |
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| confetti | posted 2-Jan-2002 12:56pm I think God has only power over our solar system, while others reign over others. Wouldn't it be cool if all the Gods got together and had meetings? |
| kaleb777 | posted 2-Jan-2002 1:13pm Everything, but there are still laws that govern everything, so I don't believe God would go against logic since that seems to go against the whole 'house of order' concept. |
| kaleb777 | (reply to confetti) posted 2-Jan-2002 1:17pm I think I believe that too. Are you familiar with Mormon beliefs? They believe there are many Gods, but only one God rules this planet, although our God is supposed to have as many planets as sands in the sea with other children (humans) living on them. It sounds hard to believe, but it sounds cool. |
| juliw | posted 2-Jan-2002 1:25pm God is more powerful than anyone or anything. |
| TeddyMiller | posted 2-Jan-2002 1:54pm You forgot Superman. |
| southernyankee | posted 2-Jan-2002 2:19pm I dont think that "god" can do that much here on earth in this lifetime. I know that some of you will think that i am going to hell for saying this but i belive that if all the people got together, "we' could overthrow god. There is nothing stronger than the human spirit. I mean think about it. I god wanted to destory us all, 'he' probabliy could, but then life would be boring for 'him'. As far as the laws of physics goes, i dont think that god can break them. Its just that we dont know enough about them that makes it look like he can. The only law 'he' could break is the speed of light, because I dont belive that 3*10^8 m/s is the ultimate speed. Its not until you die that 'god' or whatever can harm you. I don't belive that 'god' controls anything on earth. THIS WORLD IS RUN BY PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE, NOT BY SOME COSMIC GOD. |
| Enheduanna | posted 2-Jan-2002 2:39pm I cannot/will not make statements about the nature of god. I do think "that god concept" exists in the real world--that is, many people in the real world have a concept of god. I personally do not. |
| romkey | posted 2-Jan-2002 3:01pm as I understand "God", the question is simply wrong. I hit you with a stick. |
| Jemmy | posted 2-Jan-2002 3:12pm I can't make statements about the nature of god, I know absolutley nothing. |
| Wookiewoman | posted 2-Jan-2002 4:49pm I believe that God is the creator of ALL things and can change or delete anything He wishes. |
| Oscar | posted 2-Jan-2002 5:03pm Mankind Planet earth The sun and entire solar system All stars in the nightsky Black holes, singularities, neutron stars, pulsars Supernovae, hypernovae The entire galaxy (100+ billion stars, plus the rest) All galaxies Quasars The entire known universe, plus whatever in objects we don't know The speed of light Euclidian space Time itself The laws of physics Logic and causality Everything imaginable and unimaginable and the rest. God is absolute, omnipotent, eternal and more. |
| HareKrishna | posted 2-Jan-2002 5:18pm Krishna is all powerful! |
| confetti | (reply to kaleb777) posted 2-Jan-2002 8:28pm Yes, I heard it before. It sounded like just about the one sensible thing to come out of the Mormon religion |
| mandy | posted 2-Jan-2002 9:09pm cannot and will not.....sorry...not this chick |
| mandy | (reply to romkey) posted 2-Jan-2002 9:10pm He'd like that! |
| jkiehart | posted 2-Jan-2002 11:55pm What a GREAT question. My answer is "I don't know." Maybe I'll find out when I die. But I do believe in Him. And I HATE myself for continuing to ask him for things. "God? Hi. Can you get me a job? Make my mom healthy? Help me sort things out with my boyfriend? You know, that guy I'm living in sin with? Thanks tons. Tell dad I said 'hi.'" |
| Dino | posted 3-Jan-2002 5:10am I will not make statement on whether god exists or not. But I will make statments on this confusing survey and the desparation not to offend anyone. Political correctness gone waywire. |
| serendipity | (reply to Dino) posted 3-Jan-2002 8:50am God sucks and he's an butt-hole, if he exists. And people who do believe in that crap are halfway schizofrenics. Does that compensate? |
| Dino | (reply to serendipity) posted 3-Jan-2002 9:00am mmm, is believing in God a behaviour disorder? I'm inclined to think so. |
| kaleb777 | (reply to confetti) posted 3-Jan-2002 12:17pm That and storing 1 years worth of food, water and supplies. |
| confetti | (reply to kaleb777) posted 3-Jan-2002 1:21pm But no coffee, tea or chocolate |
| kaleb777 | (reply to confetti) posted 3-Jan-2002 1:49pm Or booze |
| serendipity | (reply to Dino) posted 3-Jan-2002 3:40pm Yeah. I read somewhere there have been these experiments with anti-schizofrenic medication, and they largely surpressed the desire of most test subjects to seek out various forms of religious expression of experience. I think religious sentiments are a bred-in instinct which allows alpha humans to rally less dominant specimens in consistent groups. It might be a first evolutionary step towards an insect-like hive organization! |
| natsim | (reply to jkiehart) posted 3-Jan-2002 8:28pm Don't hate yourself. God can take it. |
| jkiehart | (reply to natsim) posted 3-Jan-2002 8:44pm If only there was something I could do for him. House sit, lend Him some cash, buy Him a drink, tell Him He looks great in those pants. Just to try to be a good person, I suppose, is good. |
| natsim | (reply to jkiehart) posted 3-Jan-2002 9:20pm Jesus told a story about God separating those who loved God well from those who didn't. My favourite part is where he says 'Come, you that are blessed ... for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.' And the people said to him "When did we see you hungry and give you food, or thirsty and give you something to drink? (etc etc)". And then he answered "Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me." So go buy God a drink! |
| jkiehart | (reply to natsim) posted 3-Jan-2002 10:09pm |
| Kristal_Rose | posted 4-Jan-2002 4:53am In the blink of an eye we could become a cartoon or a fazillion mile long space worm instead of these 15 billion galaxies. The history and future of infinite realities can be rewritten. |
| Wicksy | posted 4-Jan-2002 12:27pm ALL |
| cuteasabutton | posted 4-Jan-2002 2:34pm *once again ducks from lightning bolts* |
| Zang | posted 4-Jan-2002 8:31pm Wouldn't be much of a God otherwise now? Eh? Silly monkey! |
| Zang | (reply to confetti) posted 4-Jan-2002 8:34pm What do you mean? Like in a boardroom with coffee and donuts? I don't think so! |
| Zang | (reply to natsim) posted 4-Jan-2002 8:38pm I like that one too! |
| confetti | (reply to Zang) posted 4-Jan-2002 10:27pm |
| Zang | (reply to confetti) posted 4-Jan-2002 11:35pm Oh |
| heyzeus1 | posted 5-Jan-2002 10:00am should there be a god, it would encompass these things, i guess... |
| bill | posted 6-Jan-2002 8:24am The more I think about God, the less God is capable of existing for me. Ignorance is Bliss is Religion |
| davethebrave371 | posted 6-Jan-2002 3:04pm Nothing is more powerful than anything else, everyone and everything has the potential to DO everything. So, anything God can do, so can anyone else can as well. Which means, of course, that God IS more powerful than all of these things, but only so long as these things allow him to be so, if indeed there is a God (which I do believe, but the Judaic God is not the ONLY God out there, in my opinion, nor is he the one I place my belief, worship and faith in, as I am non-denominational, meaning I have no religion). |
| natsim | (reply to Zang) posted 6-Jan-2002 4:54pm |
| Kristal_Rose | (reply to kaleb777) posted 6-Jan-2002 9:47pm Seems to me storing a years supplies is a lack of faith. But I admit to sharing your viewpoint at one time (I was going to be the neighborhoods savior if we had y2k rioting chaos). The cool thing was that i learned that you can save on groceries by buying in bulk whenever anything sells for cheap. Now all my groceries are date stamped rotated inventory. |
| kaleb777 | (reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 6-Jan-2002 10:36pm God seems to help people only in situations where they are incapable of helping themselves. If Mormons believe they have been commanded by God to store a years food and supplies, then to do so shows faith because to ignore the command shows they don't expect any future disasters - ie, they do not have faith that the disasters prophecied in the Bible will actually happen. Even if you live in a place where there have never been any natural disasters, (where that would be I don't know) I think it pays to store a bit. Who can tell what economic or man made problems will cause a shortage of food? I know people with no food in their homes at all. They eat out or at work all the time. I'm afraid my faith in supermarket supply lines isn't that great. |
| Zang | posted 7-Jan-2002 1:09am *breathes a sigh of relief and takes one step closer to Jesus* |
| Kristal_Rose | (reply to kaleb777) posted 7-Jan-2002 3:17am God has told me to hit the road without a penny to my name instead of hanging out looking for work. I met many great spiritual teachers, there was food whenever i wanted it. People would give me money for a motel when I needed a bath. I never waited more than a few minutes for a ride in an age where hitch-hiking is an anomaly on the US west coast. And.. I never asked for a single thing except maybe a cigarette or two. Sprezzatura is what they call it. It's nearly required for those seeking enlightenment in india. By lack of faith, I meant in god watching over you. If one's faith is in biblical tragedy prophecy, then i would have to agree with you. But that's not what I believe in. If you do believe disastors will happen in your midst, and you can prepare for them, then it is clearly the responsible thing to do. I don't think god gives every one the same guidelines, which is why I sometimes coach people or judge them based on what they believe, not what I would live my life by or suggest to someone else with a different palette of high ethics. |
| Delirium | posted 7-Jan-2002 3:54am Everything is a part of what the source is, there is no end. Nothing could be more powerful, because anything that exists is made up of the energy that is the higher poweer... |
| kaleb777 | (reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 7-Jan-2002 8:16am Have you found any work lately? I had a friend with what I guess you could call "sprezzatura". He used to fudge up all the time, never planned for the future, was a complete loser, but everything seemed to fall into place for him. He never wanted for anything, and people seemed to give him things. I did find he used people up as he went. That's the main reason I wiped him. |
| Kristal_Rose | (reply to kaleb777) posted 7-Jan-2002 11:12am I can imagine him. I was something different. People were glad to help me. I wasn't one of those sleep on your couch till your sick of me types. When I just got home from the airport, I wanted a taxi, but felt i should save money and take the bus. A taxi driver picked me up for free saying she wanted some good karma. That's more what I mean. The high important key there though was 'everything falling into place', it comes from humility and doing as god wants for you. Knowing that requires channeling words/omens, intuition, or a heartfelt inner sense that god is writing your decision making. What was that label, protestant christianism? Do they believe in such stuff? |
| kaleb777 | (reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 7-Jan-2002 11:59am I've never needed anything really. I've always made sure I didn't live beyond my means, although my family was always there to help. I do try to keep my requests for help to a minimum though, and try to be more useful to them than they are to me. I have had some experiences where people reach out with only support. I once went to a church meeting where there were hundreds of people in attendance with only about 50 regulars. I felt I needed something different in my life. I was heavily into drugs, and they weren't making my life as good as they once did. The Bishop/priest whatever made a point of finding me after the meeting. I saw him looking but didn't think it was for me. He actually followed me to the carpark, past many people who wanted to talk to him, and walked up to my car window. He said that he could tell I had a great spirit and that he felt compelled to speak to me. I thought he was gay. I just didn't believe anyone could see/feel my spirit. I have always had people in authority go easy on me, and ask me if I need help etc when I really do need help. (Here's my scientific side now)- I have always had a very expressive face. When telling stories I can see people reading my expressions and smiling. What I think happens is when I am in distress, my facial expressions show this, so people tend to go easy on me. I don't know. What does a spirit look like anyway? They are invisible to us because they are made of finer stuff. I think everything falls into place when you do good because you have no guilt if things go bad. You don't consider bad things as a punishment or bad karma, because you know in yourself that you haven't done anything to bring bad things on. I know many protestant religions believe bad things happen as a result of doing bad, but not in a karmic way. They feel if you steal a car and go to prison and lose your job and house, that is the consequence of doing evil. The same goes for sexual sins. Promiscuity leads to more diseases, conflict between different partners, feelings of emptiness. These are only consequences of actions however. The real punishment comes after death. |
| autumnlight | posted 7-Jan-2002 3:53pm Assuming that God exists now, he doesn't have power over all of mankind, let alone the world or universe or whatever. So even if he does exist, he is weak. |
| Kristal_Rose | (reply to kaleb777) posted 7-Jan-2002 9:40pm Though much sweeter than the Romans sctick of 'the body is meant to sin, hate what you must do till your spirit washes it's hands of what the body does', hinduism does suggest that we transcend our karma, as well as clean it up. Spirit has many looks. There are tons of supernatural senses just as there are a few physical ones. I could explain a few, but I doubt it would serve you much purpose. I made my first trip to the oakland ashram and had been hoping to ask someonen about the awakening experience I'd had. A pair of swami's approached me and explained what happened to me before i could even ask. That sort of thing is commonplace for me now, so I don't bother to keep track. They must be reading my facial expressions. It's my view (experience actually) that things like dead, heaven, hell, hades, etc. are planes of being that take place here on the so-called-physical earth after ones first spiritual death-rebirth. My hindu books bother to explain dozens of such realms one can visit before losing their body, like gurumoortam, where everyone surrounding you is a wise telepathic guide (yep, been there too). My main problem with fundamental christianity is that they suggest you have to physically die before any of this stuff starts happening. If you ask me, that's a prison, and earth then indeed is malkuth under satans dominion. The week I became a minister I was visited in my nightly meditations by dozens of souls in purgatory. That could have been prevented in the first place if these folks had completeted their spiritual work on earth. |
| girl2 | posted 8-Jan-2002 3:42pm god is every thing |
| kaleb777 | (reply to Kristal_Rose) posted 13-Jan-2002 12:24pm We are spiritual beings in a physical shell. Earth is a test. We have to complete it sufficuently in oder to get the reward which comes after we die. |
| moet | posted 20-Jan-2002 8:26am If we believe in god then does that make god a belief. If so, do beliefs have power over anything? |
| Kristal_Rose | (reply to moet) posted 20-Jan-2002 8:33am By definition, yes. ¥"say's she talks to angels" That ¥ is how I indicate that I'm quoting what i hear at the moment. If ind it's often as effective for getting my across as anything I'd say otherwise. ¥"The cross is someone she has not met, not yet." I believe that we get pretty much whatever universe dynamics we are willing to believe in, but that doesn't have anything to with the symantics of God being a belief in addition to any other roles. |
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