Without looking it up, which 12 European countries will pay with the euro from January 1, 2002?

It's too bad about the euro. Sure, it's practical, sensible and progressive, but it's so freakin' ugly.

Here's a sub-question for those of you who know the correct answers to the main survey:

Of the twelve, which country will be the first to start using the Euro?

Mnahahahaha

Ireland, because of the time difference?

SKIPPY!@

Uh...Belgium, France, Germany, Great Britain, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Spain...How many is that? Eight! Okay! Four left. Umm Greece, Austria, Sweden, and Denmark?

i put......spain, france, germany, italy, austria, belgium, luxembourg, portugal, ireland, denmark, switzerland, great britain.

*shrugs*

France,Italy,Spain,Netherlands,Sweden,Germany,Greece,Ireland,Great Britian,Denmark,Finland & Poland


What's the correct answers????

Made some guesses.
Liechtenstein wasn't on the list thankfully. Their stamps and currency are probably their greatest export.

Whichever of them is furthest East?
If you shoot a rifle parallel to the earth on a smooth terrain, and drop a bullet at the same time, which bullet will hit first?

Disregarding factors such as air resistance and the curvature of the earth, both bullets will hit the ground at the same time.

curvature of the earth, that was the question. Cheers.

Is this sideways e-commerce broken circle equivalency trident the symbol of the Euro? It belongs to an existing organization.

The answer is:
Austria, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Finland, Ireland, Spain, Portugal, France, Italy, Luxembourg and Greece.

I know it ain't Britain. I also know (from Skylark) that one is Finland.

http://www.microsoft.com/typography/faq/faq12.htm

Can you show it?

€ Thanks.

€ Just testing it myself.
All you Brits get it by typing AltGR+4

or americans by typing Alt + 0128.

You Americans have got it hard. But then do you really need it as much as we do?

Easy to remember number: 2^7 (2+7=9 / 0+1+2+8=11 : 9/11) (meaningless laugh). I remember a lot of those little codes ιλ¥, etc.

Oh my gosh!! I missed 4 At most I thought it would be only 1 or 2.
Austria,Belgium,Luxembourg & Portugal

I was going to say Austria & Portugal.Dang it!I should have went with my first instinct.>

Not bad tho,for guessing,right off the top of my head.

Question: Why where these countries selected?

I marked ten countries: AT BE FR DE IE IT LU NL PT ES
I think that two of the four Scandinavian countries are also joining, but I can't for the life of me remember which two.

Ah, I see that I can't remember which two because it's only one. And I should have known that Greece was joining.

Uh, wouldn't ireland be tied with portugal and spain for last to adopt, by that logic?

These are the European countries of the European Union that have enough trust in the euro. In Denmark and Sweden the population has voted against it. And in Great-Britain the Conservatives were always anti-Europe, so they also voted against it. But I've heard that there ar a lot of shopkeepers who will accept the euro anyway.

Portugal yes, Spain no.

In reply to my sub-question, Maarten got the wrong answer but was thinking of the right reason, while Krystal got the reason the right way round but didn't name the country. The first place to use the Euro will be Finland, as it will be January 1st there an hour before any of the other countries.

Not a clue

I've had a lot of time to memorise this:
Austria, Belgium, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Luxemburg, Netherlands, Portugal and Spain.

Yep. What is strange is that the Greeks are in the same time zone (GMT+2) with Finland. I guess being the first ones to adopt Euros also has a symbolical meaning.

Personally, I've always thought Finland should change to Central European Time zone like the small Baltic states already have. If you have business partners in, let's say Brussels, you may have to wait for an hour until they come to work before you can call them. And two hours if they're in London. That's sounds like useless loss of time to me.

And, yet better, if they changed it, I would at least once get that one extra hour of sleep.

I've gone for Austria, Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Portugal and Spain. But the only ones I'm sure about are Germany and Ireland! I should know more about this.....*shakes head*

I only got 2 wrong!! Hooray

Can anyone think of an anacronyn.
baffinggilps maybe?

How do you feel about this transition of the Euro currency in the Netherlands???

It's good for European economy I think. We now can compete against Japan and the USA.

But like you mentioned before the Euro currency isn't as pretty as the Netherlands currency.

& well the US currency is just down right boring.

That's true. Compared to Dutch money the euro money is pretty ugly.

Baffinggilps resembles some Gaelic name

Eesh. I think that this move towards a single government in Europe is an act of complete naivety on the part of younger people who don't remember WW2. It's certain to cause problems at some point in the future. Worst case will probably be the European Countries ending up with some very tight bonds, the south and middle american countries forming some tight bonds... Middle eastern countries forming some tight bonds... Asian Countries may be more intricate, but some alliances there, too... Africa is already basically united... we may see the sides for WW3 being picked by simple geography...

And the Euro is just another way of giving European Countries a certain amount of control and inter-government over each other... bad thing. Really bad thing.

But........it's stil prettier thatn the Americans money.

Screw Europe

By being in the European Union, European countries already have a degree of control over one another. And it works just fine.

For now. That's the problem with young people, we all believe the world is more stable these days than it really is. Think of how different today is from 50 years ago. Expect as much change in next 50 years. Sharing a currency, I don't think anyone would disagree, gives countries significantly more control over each other than they had before. Most American Economists say that it [the euro] was a good idea. Most American Historians say it [the euro] was a naive, economically motivated, decision, which is guaranteed to cause some major problems at a point in the future.

Wars can STILL happen. We aren't going to be the first era in the history of the world to be without wars.

We can't take world stability for granted, and we shouldn't institute international systems/organizations which cannot be easily dismantled when destabilization occurs.

I think it likely that the Euro will have a more stabilising effect - just as the EU has done. It may prevent European countries from going to war - knowing that their economies will be trashed by doing so.

And who says stability isn't possible anyway? Look at Switzerland - they just had a referendum on scrapping their army. The reason? They don't need it anymore. I'm not sure what the result of the referendum was though - it may not have been held quite yet.....

I'm CERTAIN it will have a more stabilizing effect. You missed my point. My point is, that stability will not last forever.

When it falls apart, which is an inevitability... (the very first rule of logic, and the basis of all science, is that what has happened in the past has a tendency to continue to happen in the future). WHEN the war happens in Europe, this multi-national monetary system is going to end up causing massive chaos. You've got to realize, most wars are revolutions, and most revolutions are a result of 1) Religion. (not so much a big issue in Europe these days.) 2) Class Disparity. Widening gap between rich and poor, world wide, which is trying to be alleviated by socialist constructs of government, will eventually come to a head in some sort of violent revolution in a handful of first world countries. IT WILL HAPPEN.

Stability is impossible. Assuming constant world stability for any time frame in excess of 10 years ahead is naive, and could be harmful. Sure, we can look a couple years ahead and say "Eh, not much is going to happen in Europe during this period. [In terms of destabilization...]." That's fair enough. But who knows what it will be like in 60 years. I wouldn't be surprised if a few central european countries were to go communist in the next 60 years, as a result of a widening income-gap and sagging temporary economy (maybe throw in a new disease or something of the sort which has sprung up, and a new technology which is as yet inconceivable)... and then perhaps we will see a war between those and the non-communist regions surrounding it. Who knows. Or it may be the "Anti-Mutant" countries Vs. The "Genetically Engineered Warrior" countries... 80 years from now instead of 60.

You just never now. Ignorance is a combination of two things. 1) Not knowing. and 2) Assuming that what you don't know doesn't matter.

I don't know what will happen in Europe over the next hundred years. I don't know what will happen in AMERICA over the next 30 years. My guess in the latter case is that the changes will be greater than you would ever have expeted. However, this not knowing, is significant. It IS relevant. It's why I want my gun, money backed by precious metals, survival skills, and personal competence. See what I'm sayin?

That's the problem with the world, we take stability for granted. We live in a time of uncertainty. EVERY time is a time of uncertainty. That's the nature of the future... it entials, some level, of not knowing. Sure, we know how things are today, but we do not know how they will be tomorrow. In planning our lives, in making our decisions, and in running our countries, we MUST consider that.

As for Switzerland... if they think that's a good idea, I think they are idiots.

A nuclear war at this point is NOT inconceivable. Something could STILL happen. We just plain can't know, and like they boy scouts say...

Be Prepared.

I grew up in the Cold War. You "kids" seem so bleak. Things are so much nicer World-wide now than they were like 20-30 years ago . I see the Euro as nothing more than a tool for ease of book-keeping. I doubt seriously that using dollars or EDollars or clams (you name the currency) will be the determining factor in a breakdown of Society. [I DO agree that currencies should be backed by precious commodities]. It'll be ok

Hooray for hope

I didn't say that. I said 1) Society WILL BREAK DOWN. 2) When this happens, being involved in an international monetary system is not going to be a good thing for the countries involved in it.

The world IS NICER NOW. I AGREE. 100%. If you think it's going to last forever, you are out of touch with reality. Just because you live in a palace today, and you have personal stbaility in your life, does not mean that tomorrow the Roman Empire will not fall.

This is what people just don't understand-- An apocalyptic breakdown of society... this event which we all fear, be it a disease pandemic, a nuclear war, or any of the thousand or so other scenarios, is NOT JUST PARANOIA. Now, believing an asteroid is going to hit earth and cause big problems... that's paranoia. BUT THE OTHER POSSIBILITIES, are VERY realistic.

Societies don't last forever. There are events which massively change the world. The plague in Europe... The fall of the Roman Empire... Etc. Etc. Etc.

It happens. Often. It's a reality of existence. It isn't guaranteed to happen in our lifetime, but it is guaranteed to happen.

Major events do occur... that's what history is about.

Our society moves upwards, yes, this much is true... HOWEVER... that is not guaranteed. We are at a point where society is becoming more and more powerful... things are coming more and more together... availability of information, infrastructure, intra and inter government stability are at an all time high... BUT THIS IS NOT FOREVER.

The political, social, and economic infrastructure which exists in the world today, was BUILT UP over THOUSANDS OF YEARS... if it collapses... when it collapses... it won't be easy to reconstruct to the point it was at. It probably won't take as long as it did the first time (all of history), but it will still take a significant amount of time... I'd guess a MAJOR worldwide catastrophe could set society back as much as 100 years.

A more minor, realistic catastrophe... let's say a WW3 type scenario, could EASILY set us back 30 years.

And catastrophes don't have to be of the type we are used to. Hell, the economy took until 1955 to fully recover from the great depression. Remember how the world was in the 1910's? I don't either... but it sure was a strange, strange, strange....

Cold... unfriendly, unrecognizable... place...

Except in the cities. Societies rise, and fall. That's how it works. Some last longer than others... Understand?

The greatest society of all time, the "first world," will not exist forver. We MUST take this into account when we make long term infrastructure decisions. It is VITAL to the longterm survival of a people, and of the people's government. Stability is not guaranteed.

Just because our western world has been fairly stable since 1945, does not mean that this will maintain. Hell, the communist world was flipped upside down in 1989... China's new government resembled a political scatter-particle experiment gone wrong in 1949... England has had a MASSIVE episode of instability in every century since the first A.D. WE CANNOT RELY ON THE WORLD REMAINING THE WAY IT IS.

If we presume this, as a given, we are taking a huge risk. Sure, the Euro is a good idea, insomuch as the world remains the way it is for a while... but when was the last time that happened? NEVER. A nation and it's people need to be independent of other nations... they need to be able to isolate themselves if need be. This is so that they can always be free enough to make the decisions which lead to the long-term survival of their people, in the competitive global war-scape called (evolution.).

Seems to have gone smothly enough (Sorry mandy - that wasn't very interesting )

*whips you*
try again!!!!!

Yes Ma'am......

Did you know that the meaning of life has something to do with keys and caves?

Does it?

Hmm, I discovered it in maths one day (when we were talking about something completely different). It also had something to do with not doing homework

Go to bed...you're delirious!
*kiss*

lol Who me?

Yes...you....

Delirious with joy perhaps? It's school tomorrow and that makes me *so* happy!

Whip me!!!! Whip me!!!

No. You want it too badly!
Be gone!

Please. I'll do anything if you whip me.