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LindaH   
| | #1 posted June 24, 2009 at 12:52am (EST) |
In an old OLD survey, you said:
"Apparently, sequel changed her vote from 'needs work' to 'hopelessly flawed'. This caused ASEXYBABE's 'needs work' vote to be overridden by msgman's 'override' of sequel's vote. Thus, sequel's change to HF actually allowed the survey to be released. Ironic?
It's pretty screwed up, but I'm not sure how to fix it."
How did that work? Override? Just curious. |
bill  
| #2 posted June 24, 2009 at 1:32am (EST)
edited June 24, 2009 at 1:33am (EST) |
I'm not sure I can remember exactly how it worked. But, maybe a survey couldn't have any needs work votes to get qualified. Yeah, I think that's how it was. It was harder on survey creator back then. But, then that lead to problems. So, qualifiers could give an "override" vote and it would knock out a needs_work vote, thus allowing the survey to qualify if it was being help up by a single needs work vote. But, override was kind of odd too, because your reasonable vote (which was still needed, like now 5 reasonables to pass qual) would be replace by the override. It's like an HF is now (and that is the same as ever too). Strategically, you might be wiser to cast a needs work instead of a HF if there are other needs work votes, more than reasonables. Since a single HF has no real effect.
So, something like that happened in the bit you quoted ... There were 2 needs work votes stopping the survey, but 1 override. So, in effect only 1 needs work. Thus, changing a needs work to an HF, drooped that to zero needs work, and the survey was released. Thus, by "upgrading" a bad needs work to a hopelessly flawed, sequel actually caused the survey to be qualified. I assume, unwittingly.
Anyway, we got rid of override, and instead just made the requirement more reasonable's than needs work's to pass qual. The effect is similar without needing extra kinds of votes. I think some old surveys still have override votes... |
LindaH
| | #3 posted June 25, 2009 at 10:43am (EST) |
oh funny... just saw this today
Important Message(s)
There is no Survey Selector 0 |
bill
| #4 posted June 25, 2009 at 12:24pm (EST)
edited June 25, 2009 at 12:24pm (EST) |
Do you recall where you were or how that happened? link? |
LindaH
| | #5 posted June 25, 2009 at 6:05pm (EST) |
I don't remember. I either clicked on a bookmark for this http://surveycentral.org/SurveySelector/1.html or it was in my drop down menu. |
LindaH
| | #6 posted June 25, 2009 at 6:06pm (EST) |
oh cool! look http://surveycentral.org/SurveySelector/0.html |
bill
| | #7 posted June 25, 2009 at 6:15pm (EST) |
or http://surveycentral.org/SurveySelector/O.html
or http://surveycentral.org/SurveySelector/WTF!.html |
LindaH
| | #8 posted June 25, 2009 at 6:56pm (EST) |
I am so disappointed!
http://surveycentral.org/SurveySelector/Santa..htm... |
bill
| | #9 posted June 25, 2009 at 9:33pm (EST) |
http://surveycentral.org/SurveySelector/Easter%20B... |
they
| | #10 posted June 25, 2009 at 9:44pm (EST) |
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LindaH
| | #11 posted June 25, 2009 at 10:30pm (EST) |
hehe
http://surveycentral.org/SurveySelector/that%20is%... |
bill
| | #12 posted June 26, 2009 at 6:44am (EST) |
http://surveycentral.org/SurveySelector/spoon.html |
cloudhugger
| | #13 posted June 26, 2009 at 9:05am (EST) |
bill wrote:
> or http://surveycentral.org/SurveySelector/WTF!.html
I would use that one as my home page |
they
| | #14 posted June 26, 2009 at 10:37am (EST) |
http://surveycentral.org/SurveySelector/Bee-atch!.... |
bill
| #15 posted June 26, 2009 at 11:35am (EST)
edited June 26, 2009 at 11:35am (EST) |
http://surveycentral.org/SurveySelector/...whateve... |
LindaH
| | #16 posted June 26, 2009 at 12:05pm (EST) |
http://surveycentral.org/SurveySelector/anymore.%2...
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bill
| | #17 posted June 26, 2009 at 12:07pm (EST) |
...fun is over... had to fix that... potential security issue. |
LindaH
| | #18 posted June 26, 2009 at 12:18pm (EST) |
oooh... was there some sort of way a person could go where they weren't supposed to? |
bill
| | #19 posted June 26, 2009 at 1:38pm (EST) |
no... but some risk of an sql injection attack |
LindaH
| | #20 posted June 26, 2009 at 2:09pm (EST) |
so someone could have been able to put code in the url bar and it would have executed on the page? |
bill
| | #21 posted June 26, 2009 at 3:25pm (EST) |
Someone could have potentially run some database query (including updates/deletes/etc) against almost any table, perhaps even tables on another website I run. |
LindaH
| | #22 posted June 26, 2009 at 4:43pm (EST) |
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Irene007 
| | #23 posted July 1, 2009 at 10:12pm (EST) |
bill wrote:
> no... but some risk of an sql injection attack
Wow... Posts like that make you look really smart Bill. I'm impressed!  |
bill
| | #24 posted July 2, 2009 at 7:00am (EST) |
It try, I try.
Oh, I just got the "There is no Survey Selector 0" bug thingy!
debug debug debug |
bill
| | #25 posted July 2, 2009 at 7:11am (EST) |
OK, I think that's fixed up nicely now.
It seemed to happen when I did a search, then signed-on (not giving a survey selector)... the search "saved" a zero selector and the code that picks a selector in that case wasn't dealing with that case well. But, now, it's frikkin' awesome. |
cloudhugger
| | #26 posted July 2, 2009 at 10:33am (EST) |
NOt as frikkin' awesoms as you bill
anyway, I do have a bug that is starting to bug me. After I respond to a reply and tic 'enter' it won't automatically go to 'new replys'. If there were any new replys made after my reponse, they are nulled out. I have to manually hit 'new replys' and scroll backward to seee several comments made before mine. |
bill
| | #27 posted July 2, 2009 at 1:47pm (EST) |
I think I know what you mean... I noticed something similar where if you edit a comment, it doesn't jump back to that comment but leaves you at the top of the survey page... which isn't so terrible, but lacks that visual confirmation of the edit which makes everything seem better.
I'll look into this, perhaps right now. |
cloudhugger
| | #28 posted July 2, 2009 at 2:29pm (EST) |
......is that your "right now"...or my "right now"...?
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bill
| #29 posted July 2, 2009 at 2:29pm (EST)
edited July 2, 2009 at 2:29pm (EST) |
Hm. Well, I fixed the edit thing I mentioned.
I tried to reproduce the problem you were talking about cloudy, but I wasn't able to. This feels like yet another case where it's complicated to explain and it's happening when things are just so. But, I'll try to describe what I did and what I saw and maybe you'll know what's different. Basically, what I'd need is a reproducible case so I can track down what's going wrong.
OK, so, I signed on as someone else (on my test system) and created a reply to bill in a survey that I (bill) had voted and commented on a while back. Then, I switched back to bill and saw that I had a new reply. I viewed it and replied back to it. When I did this, the survey comes up and the URL in the address bar looks like http://surveycentral.org/survey/31079.html#New (the #New on the end being the important bit). And, it seems to do the right thing. It opens the page with new comments at the top. My reply is at the bottom of those, at the bottom because I just added it. But, I didn't need to click 'new replies' or scroll back because it put me in the right place. So, it seems to work.
Is there something different about your case? I know it's probably tricky because it just happens to you once in a while. But, if you could give more details, like do you use "check comment"? That would be different. Though, honestly, I tried that case to and it seemed to also work. But, maybe there's some other difference...
Also, possibly, I just fixed it for you, inadvertently when I fixed the edit thing. But, I don't think that's possible. |
LindaH
| | #30 posted July 4, 2009 at 8:50pm (EST) |
i get glitches but i am logged i am logged in from my phone. so it could just be my phone |
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