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Glassa
| | #1 posted November 20, 2004 at 2:50pm (EDT) |
"So when Americans kill Arab babies it's okay, is that what you're saying? Yes, that's exaclty what you're saying. Just look at the title of your post. "Those babies would've been killed anyway, they might as well be killed by God fearing Ameircans. USA! USA!"
Nope, not saying that at all. I am saying that it wasn't ok for Arabs to be killing those kids, which was something your side was against stopping.
Like I said: Don't pretend to care about the Iraqis when the fact is, if it were up to you they would most likely still be living under Saddam's regime of cutting out tongues, cutting of hands and killing the kids of his enemies.
And the reason I say that is because you're still mad that we're there. | Frostbrand 
| | #2 posted November 20, 2004 at 3:08pm (EDT) |
Lies, lies, lies. Get it thorugh your thick head you coiw, beign anti-Bush doesn't make you Pro-Saddam, anymore than not liking Ariel Sharon makes you Anti-Israel, or not liking Britney Spears means you ahte The Beatles or some other ridiculous assertion on par with the ones you pull out of your ass. | Glassa
| | #3 posted November 20, 2004 at 3:34pm (EDT) |
"beign anti-Bush doesn't make you Pro-Saddam"
True, but you didn't want us to remove him. And your side was saying that his atrocities were none of our business.
That's my point. | Biggles 
| | #4 posted November 20, 2004 at 7:49pm (EDT) |
Brian, both icurok and myself posted comments to you lower down in Forum (both entitled "Brian"). I suggest you read them before you post any more comments in here. Or at least acknowledge that you've chosen to ignore them as well as the replies I've made to you in various surveys and Feedback about your attitude in Forum posts. If you want me to stop going on about this, then either give me a reasonable reply about why you shouldn't or block me, because I'm not shutting up. But I'l repeat some of my points here, AGAIN.
You are harming your cause and your argument with your insulting, narrowminded, unpleasant posts with their terrible grammar and spelling. You aren't winning any friends and you aren't winning any points for your debating skills. Why don't you write a response and then actually read it before you post it, tidy up the spelling and grammar and think carefully about how it's going to be perceived? Is it going to be offensive? If so, and you post it anyway, that's a flame. If so, and you choose to change your original comment so that it makes the relevant point without being rude, that's called being grown up about things. Would you rather be a troll or an adult? You're getting to an age where you really do have to choose between one or the other. You're almost 23 - learn to control your anger and let it become passion instead. And if you can't do that, please stop posting in Forum, because as a left-winger, I think you're damaging to what I believe in. | caviartaste
| | #5 posted November 20, 2004 at 9:04pm (EDT) |
Brian,
Wow, I'm finding I agree with Biggles more and more everyday now. Please do - before you go challenging someone else, inspect yourself. Be respectful of others even if you don't agree with their views. Calling people names certainly doesn't make your point any more compelling, and frankly that's when people turn you off and choose to stop listening to you. I've seen you do better than this - Win very good arguments. But it's been since before that last big flame wars between you and kaleb that I've seen a good memorable debate from you, and it's because you don't win your opponents respect anymore. You're going to have to learn to be nicer to people if you're going to get into politics, and you're also going to have to learn how to control your anger and hostility. In fact, it may not hurt you to take an anger management course now. I believe it may help you in your political career.
In politics, the FIRST thing you must always be aware of is HOW YOU PRESENT YOURSELF - visually, verbally, in writing, aesthetically and/or philosophically.
If you don't present yourself well, no one will be on your side.
~caviar | spidertea
| | #6 posted November 21, 2004 at 12:44am (EDT) |
Go Biggles! | Frostbrand
| | #7 posted November 21, 2004 at 3:15am (EDT) |
Who was saying that? Some lunatic you decided represneted the entirety of the Left because you refuse to beleive that any of us can be (and usually are) smarter than you? | southernyankee 
| | #8 posted November 21, 2004 at 11:17am (EDT) |
"....And your side was saying that his atrocities were none of our business.
That's my point."
I dont know about Brian, but no, I dont think a lot of anti-war people are saying "none of our business" per se. What I think many of them (and plenty of conservatives as well) are getting at is that our country has enough problems and we have a big enough mess over here that we shouldn't be solving all the world's problems. First you got to take care of yourself before you take care of others.
I mean, considering our high crime rate in inner cities, poor education system, working single moms, our drug addicts, our high prison population, and our over-taxed middle-class; it seems that we have no room to spend our precious resources on lecturing the rest of the world of what democracy is. I mean, its not like people over here have to worry about Bush using his "secret police" to cut out their tongunes and burning their fingers off with acid for posting anit-war slogans on the internet the way Saddam would have, but consider the way some protesters were treated for peacefully protesting the war. And I mean I am not equating a 19-year-old woman having to work 2 jobs to take care of her 2-year-old infant with an Iraqi woman worring that Saddam might have her and her family killed in the middle of the night or a stray American bomb hitting her home. I am not saying that at all, but because the first is living over here, we should at least have some sense for taking care of our own. Havent you ever heard the phrase "charity begins at home." |
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